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- As mentioned here, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag doesn't currently work. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. However, there's been some staff conversation (Feb 2024) about what a new technical solution might look like, so we'd advise against deleting these from pages, at least until we have a decision as to whether it'll be fixed or replaced.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 8th 2024 at 10:49:13 AM
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Yeah, I get that.
Reluctant Psycho is Gossip, wouldn't you say?
The Enforcer
Fairy of Tropes
I'd like to add Fake Alibi for Too Controversial. While there have been cases where a suspect's alibi was definitely proven false, there have also been cases where the authorities believed a suspect's alibi but the public didn't, or vice versa.
That trope's super new, and I'm guessing by its description that it was NRLEP'd at launch (I'll holler that to the locked pages thread)... but supertrope The Alibi hasn't been NRLEP'd and is a valid candidate, and has basically all the concerns of Fake Alibi.
Picky Eater is a very close relative to Does Not Like Spam, which is why, just like the other food tropes that I have listed here, it is Characterization and Too Common.
Dehumanizing Insult could be considered Too Common and Too Controversial.
The Alibi, Picky Eater, and Dehumanizing Insult are all good crowner tropes, and so is The Lad-ette, which is Characterization and attracting ZCE's.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Still need more discussion on Washington D.C. Invasion... keep in mind the villain-based description so that people don't just focus on the "but these invasions happened" stuff.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I wouldn't mind it on the crowner.
Adora, the High Priestess
Even if we put more focus on the invasion, there will be so many real life examples that it renders them meaningless.
"I just need one of you to come here to give your life to the sun god. It will be for the monkey city's glory."
Cargo Cult seems Too Controversial and like Gossip to me, since it involves who people privately worship inanimate objects. In-Universe, it’s usually portrayed as being weird in a negative way, so saying this IRL may give the implication that we are calling certain people freaks.
Adora, the High Priestess
Very controversial, also a subtrope of Mind Rape, an already NRLEP trope.
"I just need one of you to come here to give your life to the sun god. It will be for the monkey city's glory."
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
The only real life example for that trope isn't even an example of this specific technique. It can be cut with no consequence.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 22nd 2023 at 11:34:27 AM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Adora, the High Priestess
Is this like a gossip bait trope or something?
Found via random tropes button: Ching Chong
Stereotyping. And yes, I’m a bit offended by it.
Edited by AlicornGaia on Jun 23rd 2023 at 4:00:45 PM
"I just need one of you to come here to give your life to the sun god. It will be for the monkey city's glory."
The Enforcer
Bad Cop/Incompetent Cop is closely related to the NRLEP as too controversial Police Brutality, is a stereotype and narrative trope, and involves calling real people incompetent and / or assholes. While I'm certainly not pro-police, things are always more complicated than the trope's concept of a world where all cops are either actively malicious or incompetent.
Stupid Sexy Flanders and Gay Bravado are sexuality-related fanservice tropes.
Edited by NonexistentYeets on Jun 23rd 2023 at 2:32:34 PM
they/them pronouns. Look at my Neocities.
Not really having complaints with any of the suggestions. Picky Eater and The Lad-ette are Characterization, Dehumanizing Insult and Cargo Cult are Too Controversial, Shoe Size Angst is Gossip, Ching Chong is stereotyping, Bad Cop Incompetant Cop is both Too Controversial and Characterization, and Stupid Sexy Flanders and Gay Bravado are both sexuality.
The Ludovico Technique can probably get wiped for now, but if it comes back it's totally a candidate on Too Controversial.
We had kind of mixed opinions on "It" Is Dehumanizing, and I'd like a little more discussion before we either crowner it or table it.
Pro-KRLE - Not in terrible shape, most misuse can be cut, the reclamation of "It" by some non-binaries is notable Pro-NRLEP - Too Controversial, related to the NRLEP trope Dehumanization, the reclamation of "it" is controversial.
Adora, the High Priestess
Acid Reflux Nightmare: Either this isn’t true in real life or it happens way too often in real life.
"I just need one of you to come here to give your life to the sun god. It will be for the monkey city's glory."
Angry babby
The RL examples don't seem too problematic, but may be general or repetitive.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
I recently discovered yet another food trope that is in line with the ones that I have discussed recently. It is Plain Palate, which, like all the previous food tropes I have discussed is Characterization and Too Common.
Adora, the High Priestess
Age-Stereotypical Food: This is characterization, as the drink version of that trope, Drink-Based Characterization, was also a NRLEP for the same reason.
"I just need one of you to come here to give your life to the sun god. It will be for the monkey city's glory."
I feel that the description for Narrative, Characterization, and Plot Tropes is outdated because some items on here are described as too common in real life, and some are even a Truth in Television, therefore there is an issue with comparing this category to the category for tropes that are impossible in real life.
"These tropes, for which evidence in Real Life is disputed, require an author of a story to make a conscious storytelling decision, or otherwise involve the context within or outside of a work. Compare Impossible in Real Life, which involves In-Universe scenarios that can't happen in the real world."
Maybe just remove the last sentence?
That can be something.
(she/her)
Calling everything on the crowner except Deal with the Devil for NRLEP. Deal with the Devil will be KRLE
Macron's notes
Crown Description:
Vote up to either forbid all real life examples (No Real Life Examples Please) or forbid real life examples for specific subjects (Limited Real Life Examples Only); vote down to Keep Real Life Examples. To add a trope to a No Real Life Examples Please index or the Limited Real Life Examples Only index, its crowner option must meet the following criteria:- Stable 2:1 ratio needed for NRLEP or LRLEO
- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple of extra days to see if more votes come in.
Stalker Shrine, The Insomniac, Screw the Rules, I Have Connections!, and Not a Morning Person are all good NRLEP candidates for the reasons their posts described.
Too Dumb to Fool is probably Characterization, and low-key calling people dumb isn't really something we should be doing. The examples are basically all general.