Removing Gushing from the Wiki

Jagged Little Pill is really gushy both on the main (music) page and its YMMV page.

Yeah, all the parts about its accolades are fine, cause those are just facts. But a lot of the other aspects need to be cut, like the emphasis on the fact that Morisette was (to quote the page) "only nineteen", like teenage musicians have not been a thing for a very, very long time.

It'd be better to just focus on the sales success and the fact that it was influential, because it is a famous album for a reason, without, going overboard.

Has anybody bothered to check the page for the Black Pawn Movement? Its a bit gushy, which is creepy considering that it was basically cyberbullying for entertainment and showing off the worst elements of riff culture.

Edited by DongwaChan on Nov 3rd 2021 at 7:00:18 AM

From Metroid - Ridley:

• Breakout Villain: Ridley was originally just a dragon (literally) in the original NES game. Nowadays he's Samus' Arch-Enemy due to his involvement in her past when he murdered her parents and his refusal to stay dead. His consistently awesome boss fights might also have something to do with it.
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Edited by Wafer on Nov 8th 2021 at 6:52:29 AM

Just cut it.

Cut.

Has anybody bothered to check the page for the Black Pawn Movement? Its a bit gushy, which is creepy considering that it was basically cyberbullying for entertainment and showing off the worst elements of riff culture.

Also the article links to a Youtube channel that is now without videos.

I would like to draw attention to Serial Escalation. It's not just gushing or hyperbole, it's also too many zero-context entries that just go "How much more X can Y get?" while other entries just say how over-the-top something is without saying how it escalates over time. I tackled a few entries but it may need a dedicated effort.

Hey, I need to ask. I found this on the heartwarming page for Super Mario Glitchy4s Super Mario 64 Bloopers. Is this too gushy or not?

• The ENTIRE journey of the SMG4 channel. Anybody who's been subscribed to it since its humble beginnings can tell you that although the bloopers looked crappy by today's standards, the text was rife with errors and inconsistencies, and they frequently featured jokes that wouldn't have a snowflake's chance in Hell of flying in this day and age, they were made with dedication and heart. Back then, SMG4 lived in the shadow of other Super Mario 64 Machinimists like MarioMario54321, who had been in the game longer and had more subscribers than him. But as time went on, those channels more or less fell to the wayside while SMG4 grew more and more skilled at his craft, gaining new subscribers every day. The editing improved, the character models began emoting, and the humor became funnier and more refined than just "Hehehe, toilets!" Suddenly, this tiny but persevering channel gained 100K subs. Then 200K. Then 400K. And finally, out of nowhere, one million subscribers! This kid who made the stupid Mario bloopers had now risen to the YouTube big leagues! And it's now over quadruple that number! Hell, it didn't stop there—Luke and Kevin got fan mail, have their own line of merchandise, and now completed several tours! And all of this was because one boy found something he liked doing and never stopped doing it, making it one of the most inspirational success stories in all of YouTube.

It’s meta, so it should be pulled on principle.

This section at the beginning of NightmareFuel.Amphibia seems like gushing about how scary the show is.

"Being a show from one of the directors of Gravity Falls, who has been giving its fans total nightmares from day one, Amphibia can basically be described as that show, but with all its horror elements turned up to eleven. With the show helping push the envelope for what you can tackle in a modern kids show in general, the pure unmitigated terror is even worse here, with some moments potentially having the power to traumatize a child for life."

Yeah, that's unsalvageable. It would have to be rewritten from scratch. I'm no good at descriptions or headers though.

Since I'm now (sort of) back, here's something I found on WesternAnimation.Smiling Friends in the description:

Just so I know, does this count as gushing/reception in the description?

Indeed it does.

Yeah, that counts (and it’s awkwardly shoehorned in as well).

Edited by jandn2014 on Nov 16th 2021 at 10:26:56 AM

Thanks all, it's gone.

The page for Continuity Porn has tons of gushing. One example of this is in the Phineas and Ferb sub-bullets:

• Phineas and Ferb. A lot of references are made to minor gags, characters, events, and places seen earlier in the series.
  • Special mention must go to the hour-long special "Summer Belongs To You." The Continuity Nods flew as fast as the group did — and they went around the world in a day.
  • Rollercoaster: The Musical turns this Up To Eleven. Some of the bigger examples include one of Candace's songs listing a ton of the things that Phineas and Ferb had done up to that point and the finale song which features almost every character that had ever appeared in the show.
  • If Rollercoaster: The Musical turns it up to eleven, then Across the Second Dimension cranks it up past thirteen. Not only do continuity nods proliferate the work, but many become significant plot points or action sequences, and the climax is a continuity orgy every bit as big as the end of Rollercoaster: The Musical, except this time it has the benefit of not breaking the fourth wall to do it.

The episodes themselves are valid examples, but there is more gushing instead of explaining. And this isn't the only show where it happens, this page is full of gushing. Another example of gushing in this page:

• The Allspark Allmanac is a continuity porno if there ever was one. A reference to a magazine-contest-winning fancharacter in the 80s in Japan, never featured in a story ever? Sure, why not?
  • Transformers: Animated itself is at least a continuity pink film. While there'll be no Continuity Lockout if you aren't a day-one TF-aholic, if you are one (but not a GEEWUNner) you'll enjoy the onslaught of references, injokes, and ironic twists on past characters and lines.
    • And Transformers: Prime is ramping up to do the same. It's set in a new "Universe" referred to in-house as the Aligned continuity, which includes War for Cybertron, the novel Exodus, Fall of Cybertron, and the Prime cartoon... so far. There are plans to add more very soon, and a main selling point of it is a new, overarching story that will incorporate elements of previous stories in a way to make the vast majority of fans happy. And it's working.
    • The Grand Finale movie goes all-out. Exactly what creates Transformer life varies between series and there are a few names that are thrown around but don't always mean exactly the same thing. Well, in this one, we find that the Omega Lock and associated keys give the planet life, the Allspark is the source and destination of all Transformer souls and thus the thing which gives sentience to machines, without which there will be no future generations. However, its physical form is just a vessel. It is also the life force of the god Primus, who is the planet's living core. Oh, Vector Sigma exists too, but it contains all of Cybertron's knowledge instead of being the proto-Allspark. Yes, all incarnations of Primus/the Allspark/whatever makes the bots alive appear in one film. TF really lends itself to this because you can tweak the meaning of a name or concept and fit it into the new continuity; Continuity Snarl never results.

Dragon's Lair's description starts with "Still known as a classic to this day", which strikes me as unnecessary gushing.

Yeah, cut that. I still mostly know it from Stranger Things

OverClocked ReMix has a lot of gushing right in its description (the Headscratchers page already complained about this ten years ago). Anyone here familiar with the site? If not I'll make a stab at cleaning it myself.

Not familiar with it myself. Cut away if you want to.

Also, found this in the page for Story Arc which I feel is both gushing and ZCE:

• In any given season, The Wire tends to have half-a-dozen story arcs at one time. At least. And they are all awesome.

I commented it out.

I would have expanded it myself but I have never watched the show so I would have no clue how to expand it.

Should we be dewicking No Problem with Licensed Games from the YMMV pages? As Sugar Wiki's main page says, these items don't go on there, yet I see those entries on any other medium's work page whenever it has a video game based on it that dosen't suck. This might be a TRS issue, but idk.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 7th 2021 at 6:23:31 AM

Maybe we can bring it up when The Problem with Licensed Games inevitably gets dragged to TRS?