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  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Yao, Ling, and Chien Po's suddenly becoming charming, gentle, chivalrous, sensitive, and otherwise perfect boyfriends to the princess, especially after acting so rude earlier to other girls (and guys) during their song, begs several questions about how it came about and whether or not it was sincere. Did Mulan call them out for it offscreen?note  Did the fear, disgust, and in general "not-having-it" reactions of the townsfolk get through to them a short time later? Or, for a more cynical interpretation, are they only treating the princesses better because they're royalty? Or, for the even more cynical, are they just turning up the charm for the girls because...well...girls? Keep in mind that only the first three days of their relationship with the princesses is shown.
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  • Anvilicious: Arranged marriages are bad. Always. This film hammers that message home repeatedly throughout the film.
  • Awesome Art: One of the few aspects of the film all fans like is having unusually good animation as far as Disney sequels go.
  • Badass Decay: Seems Shang has been demoted from General Badass to buttmonkey somewhere between films, as he is much more bumbling and exhibits a good deal less common sense than he did in the previous movie; especially ironic since he arguably retains his position as the Only Sane Man when everyone else in the group has already abandoned their commitment to the mission in hand.
  • Base-Breaking Character: Mulan may fall into this herself owing to her Skewed Priorities in how she views the marriage that is meant to ensure the survival of her country, ironic since she's actually one of the most popular Disney Princesses of the lineup.
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  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: The princesses’ first scene has their shadows merge and turn into different animals before they appear. Mulan even seems weirded out by it, but not enough to ask what the deal was.
  • Broken Base: While much of the Disney fanbase criticizes this film for taking the complete opposite approach to the first film's aesop, it certainly does have its fans that don't see that as a bad thing.
  • Contested Sequel: It either reinforces the morals of the original or ruins the characters of the original.
  • Designated Hero: Mulan tries to talk three princesses out of an arranged marriage, forgetting that it's happening in the first place to prevent a Mongol invasion of China, meaning that she's endangering the lives of millions of innocent people by doing this, shaming the Emperor, his daughters, and herself, and the soldiers who run off with them. Made worse by the fact that one princess does want to stick to duty, but Mulan is still absolutely insistent on breaking that promise. While Mushu's behavior is also disliked, at least he's supposed to be in the wrong. The film also makes no attempt to explain how China could survive the invasion that this alliance was supposedly the only hope of stopping.
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  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Even people who dislike the movie tend to call the princesses the best thing about it, some wishing that their romantic subplots with the soldiers were explored in a less stupid context. Especially Ting-Ting, for having the most unique design, being a Cool Big Sis to the others and hating her dorky laugh.
  • Epileptic Trees: Shang could have chosen Yao, Ling, and Chien Po to make up the escort simply because they were the only ones left. We see that the numbers of his troops in the first movie gradually dwindle until finally there's only six left-seven if you count Shang himself-two of these men are background characters who are never seen again, which dwindles Shang's troops down to four-Mulan, Yao, Ling, and Chien Po. Shang decided to keep this particular statistic a secret from the emperor so as not to hinder his promotion to general, explaining the emperor's confusion when Shang reveals he's only going to have three soldiers escort his daughters to their fiances.
  • Esoteric Happy Ending: While the princesses got to marry the ones they love, they needed to marry the Kingdom's princes to bolster their forces for the oncoming invasion. Not marrying them would cause a lot of chaos. Granted, it's implied that Mushu impersonating the Unity Dragon nullified that issue, but in any other situation, these decisions would mean China is doomed.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: For those who feel the first film was perfect as it was and needed no sequel, especially since it rather undermines the original in many ways.
  • Heartwarming Moments: Some people consider the festival scene with Ling and Ting-Ting pretty cute. After several failed jokes, Ling is finally able to make Ting-Ting laugh with a weird firecracker incident... and he learns that she has an embarrassing snort-laugh. Rather than make fun of her, he says that her laugh is cute.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: After Mulan and Shang argue, one of the things that Mushu suggests is for Mulan to "burn his letters". Twelve years after the sequel was released, Lea Salonga, the singing voice for Mulan, would do a cover of "Burn", which revolves around a woman burning letters to her husband because his actions put a strain on their relationship.
  • Inferred Holocaust: We're told that the Mongols are going to invade and they vastly outnumber the Chinese armies, but the situation can be saved if the Chinese ally with another kingdom through Arranged Marriage. This being a Disney movie, the marriages don't go through and the princesses find love with commoners. The movie is more concerned with the marriage aspect than the invasion aspect at this point so it doesn't confirm if the alliance is still made but it's implied that it was indeed created. One is left to assume that, presumably, the Qigong Emperor was so taken by Mushu's Golden Dragon act that he finalized the alliance off-screen to make up for the marriage canceling and appeasing the Golden Dragon's will. However, with no onscreen confirmation of this, we are naturally left to assume the worst.
  • Informed Wrongness: Shang is meant to be a cold-hearted jerk for opposing the princesses' affection for the soldiers, but consider that their country and the other kingdom are at stake, and the arranged marriage could save them from the invaders. Basically, Shang is in the right when telling off Mulan for being glad that the princess have fallen for Yao, Ling, and Chien Po, but no one really mentions that.
  • Memetic Mutation:
  • Narm: Mulan and Shang arguing in the campground is hard to be taken seriously due to Shang's over the top facial expressions.
    • Everything of the song "Like Other Girls", which shows how much the tone between films has changed and it sounds more like the average run of the mill pop song.
  • Sequelitis: Mulan II is often considered to be one of the strongest contenders for one of the worst, if not the absolute worst, Disney sequels next to Beauty and the Beast: Belle's Magical World, The Hunchback of Notre Dame II and Cinderella II: Dreams Come True. While the movie is decently-animated, it is ultimately overlooked and criticized for the even greater liberties taken in its portrayal of Chinese culture, Mushu taking a level in jerkass, and for leaving the plot in which Mulan must save China unresolved. The sequel earned a 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoesnote , and it didn't take long after that for John Lasseter to unplug the DTV sequel machine. The trailer for the 2013 Blu-ray debut of both Mulan movies contains no clips from Mulan II.
  • Tear Jerker: Mulan mourning over Shang's supposed death when he sacrifices himself to save her, apparently spending hours in the rain crying over the cliffside before she breaks down completely as the group can only pity her.
    • For some though, the impact of this scene may be lessened by his survival shortly after the fact, and some may find it a moment too poignant for the film it is in.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: Many fans were extremely disappointed when Eddie Murphy didn't reprise the role of Mushu, sticking out because everyone else did come back. That's one reason many fans ignore the sequel.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Mulan and Shang come across Yao, Ling, and Chien Po just as they have been tossed out of a bar for creating a massive public disturbance and have been spurned by the townsfolk for their obnoxious behavior beforehand. The two couldn't have missed the racket that was going on inside the building beforehand, and they must have talked to some people in order to find them (Thus getting a chance to hear about their escapades)Do either of them call them out on their actions so they can get character development in preparation for getting girlfriends? Nope! They don't even seem a bit bothered by it. note 
  • Uncanny Valley: Shang's over the top facial expressions during his argument with Mulan are either unsettling or hilarious to look at.
  • What an Idiot!:
    • Mulan is hit with this big time; uneasy at the idea of an arranged marriage being imposed on the princesses, she continually encourages them to follow their own hearts, which is overshadowed by the fact that if they do not go through with the union China will not have the strength necessary to repel the incoming Mongols; Mulan applauds their choice to marry the men they choose, and the union is never confirmed, thus leaving China's fate unclear.
      • Compounding this is Mulan offering her own hand in marriage to see the alliance through; despite being a war hero Mulan hardly carries the political sway of the Emperor's three daughters, and that she doesn't own anything of value, land or otherwise, to offer to the alliance. That said, it's hard to imagine how Mulan hoped to deter the Mongols through her union with the prince of Qigong.
    • What do Mulan and Shang propose as an escort for the three princesses and daughters of the Emperor? A mere three soldiers, Yao, Ling and Chien-Po, to ensure their safety. Even the Emperor is puzzled by Shang's logic behind this choice.
    • The ancestors have a moment of this when Mushu is excited for Mulan and Shang being married. Rather than break it to him after the vows have been made that he'd lose his guardianship, they gleefully mock him with the fact the instant he brings it up. This leads him to try and break the two up to keep his pedestal. Even after Mulan and Shang's relationship nearly crumbles, the princesses elope, and Mushu redeems himself for Mulan by way of Deus ex Machina, they never see the possibility that China was nearly doomed because of their own idiocy.


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