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openTop Gun Maverick? Film
Why is Top Gun: Maverick a red link? There used to be a page for it, and there's an official trailer out for it now.
openLion King is in the wrong namespace? Film
The upcoming Lion King remake is currently under the Film namespace when the movie is entirely computer generated. Shouldn't it be moved to the Western Animation namespace?
openMispelling and lack of context Film
Troper markband added a rather confusing Brought Down to Badass entry in Darth Vader's character section. It reads…
- Downplayed. Before he was critically injured on Mustafar, Vader had the potential to become the strongest Force-user in the galaxy. While in Legends his injuries hobbled his force potential and his strength in the force to were he was stated to only have about 80% of the strength the emperor had, in canon Vader never lost the raw power he had in the force but was unable to use it to it's fullest given the precarious situation of being reliant on machinery to keep himself alive. Basically, Vader couldn't use some force powers like force lightning because they would obviously endanger the cybernetics keeping him alive and he couldn't use his full power because of the stress tolerances of his bionics. The emporer even called Vader's power "unparalleled" in the Dark Lord of the sith comic.
I had to correct it to…
- Downplayed. Before he was critically injured on Mustafar, Vader had the potential to become the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy. Even after, he was still able to use his Force powers and remained an effective Hero Killer and symbol of fear.
openInanimate objects in character sheets? Film
I notice that Characters.MCU Others has sheets for inanimate objects as if they were characters namely The Infinity Stones, The Infinity Gauntlet and The Darkhold.
It seems a bit odd to me but I don't know whether it's allowed or not.
openTime to reach concensus Film
There was a bit of the controversy going on with the Protagonist-Centered Morality on the Spider-Man: Far From Home page and troper HighCrate pulled the contested example to the example thread. It happened at Jul 15th 12:24 AM. Two tropers replied to him there, and six hours later, at Jul 15th 6:25 AM he pulled the example back "per concensus". What kind of concensus can be reached during 6 hours when none of the people originally editing that example got the chance to be involved in the discussion? To be clear, I was not among them but I find it wrong.
The resulting example "per concensus" is factually incorrect. It states that Tony Stark "proclaimed himself a hero" for creating E.D.I.T.H. while nothing like that happened in the film. How do I delete that part when "concensus" was reached?
Edited by AsherinkaopenRegarding the main ''Endgame'' quote Film
There seems to be an Edit War regarding the main quote for Avengers: Endgame but it primarily has to do with satisek repeatedly changing the main quote to "Part of the journey is the end." This happened four times already even after the tropers tried expanding Iron Man's initial quote.
The previous quote before the change is: "We lost. All of us. We lost friends. We lost family. We lost a part of ourselves. Today, we have a chance to take it all back. You know your teams, you know your missions. Get the stones. Get them back. One round trip each. No mistakes. No do-overs. Most of us are going somewhere we know. That doesn't mean we should know what to expect. Be careful. Look out for each other. This is the fight of our lives... and we're gonna win. Whatever it takes."
Which quote do you guys do you think best describe the movie itself? Personally, I like Captain America's quote much better.
Edited by Loekman3openMulan 2020: Safe to Recreate? Film
The page for the 2020 Mulan live-action remake is currently a redlink for not having a trailer/tropeable material. With today's release of the first proper trailer and poster, do we think it's safe to recreate or not yet?
openHow do I create a Page for a film Film
Hi I want to create a page for the Movie Hester Street, but from reading the information I just don't understand it could someone please simply the information I'm too confused
openIt Chapter Two Film
Why was the page for It Chapter Two cut? The reason listed on the cut page said it was because it has "no promotional material", but that's not true. A teaser trailer has been out since early May.
open No Title Film
Somewhere exists a big space, like huge dome. The surfaces crackle with static, it is interior but has a sense of being exterior, the roof may be the night sky. In this big cavernous space there may be a platform going half-way along, (Think Prof Xavier's Cerebro). This big space is some sort of mainframe that contains all knowledge, all wisdom, all the force etc. It is the mind of the Universe. Sometimes the seer may put on a headset to engage with it. If you or I put on this headset our brains would probably fry because we do not have mind power to deal with it.
I thought I'd seen this trope, this image, this device a million times in a million films but now I come to look for it I can't find many examples. Have I imagined it? Can you offer any examples? Thanks.
resolved YMMV/DarkPhoenix Issue Film
patriciovalencia117 recently instituted a change in the Audience-Alienating Premise section.
Before:
- Audience-Alienating Premise: The film ended driving away many fans owing to on-going production shenanigans and its questionable creative decisions. Right off the bat, Fox's decision to adapt Phoenix Saga story didn't inspire confidence given how the studio's previous stab at the story line, the much maligned X-Men: The Last Stand, was a low point for the franchise and its poor reception ended up tainting the image of the Dark Phoenix alter-ego and story. Further hampering enthusiasm was the controversial hiring of Simon Kinberg as director; while Kinberg produced the critically acclaimed X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past, his involvement in the much-contested X-Men: Apocalypse and his lack of directorial experience left fans cautious about the project. There was also the matter of fans perceiving either Days of Future Past or Logan as the Grand Finale of the setting, which caused lowered interest in this movie. And even if most of the audience could forgive all that, near the end of 2017 Disney had made a bid to acquire Fox's film assets, and it was considered a Foregone Conclusion by many ever since that not only would the acquisition go through (which it eventually did in 2019), but that Disney would pass responsibility for making future X-Men movies onto Marvel Studios (with the possible exception of movies that star Deadpool, who Disney themselves hinted and eventually confirmed would be staying at Fox to avoid tampering with his R-rated nature), and that a hard Continuity Reboot was inevitable as a result. Ultimately, all these factors coalesced into a movie that financially fell below already-modest expectations.
After:
- Audience-Alienating Premise: The film ended up driving away many fans owing to on-going production shenanigans and its questionable creative decisions. Right off the bat, Fox's decision to adapt the Phoenix Saga story didn't inspire confidence given how the studio's previous stab at the story line, the much maligned X-Men: The Last Stand, was a low point for the franchise and its poor reception ended up tainting the image of the Dark Phoenix alter-ego and story. Further hampering enthusiasm was the controversial hiring of Simon Kinberg as director; while Kinberg produced the critically acclaimed X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past, his involvement in the much-contested X-Men: Apocalypse and his lack of directorial experience left fans cautious about the project. There was also the matter of fans perceiving either Days of Future Past or Logan as the Grand Finale of the setting, which caused lowered interest in this movie. And even if most of the audience could forgive all that, Disney ended up buying out Fox and it film assets, meaning that barring the R-rated Deadpool, the X-Men will undergo a Continuity Reboot in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Ultimately, all these factors coalesced into a movie that financially fell below already-modest expectations. (Note: The "ended to ended up" change and "adapt Dark Phoenix story to adapt the Dark Pheonix story" edits were done by Stardust Soldier.)
I have issues with this edit.
1. No edit reason to explain this. I'm guessing it was supposed to be a compression issue but that wasn't well-explained. This edit is not so self-explanatory as to require no edit reason.
2. Factual inaccuracy: Disney did not "buy out Fox". They acquired PARTS of Fox that were sold off because Rupert Murdoch wanted to get out of the film-making business and focus on expanding his news empire. Let's get that straight.
3. The edit makes it seem like that acquisition was the only part where enthusiasm started being dampened, even though Disney first made their bid back at the tail-end at 2017 and the possibility of the acquisition going through had ample time to fester in the public consciousness. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that was not a factor.
4. Errors in grammar and mark-up. "Fox and it film assets" indeed, and Marvel Cinematic Universe should be linked to.
Edited by MinisterOfSinisteropen Editor with an agenda Film
Can we get a mod revert to Awesome.Avengers Endgame? Leon Embers removed most mentions of awesome moments performed by female characters, and changed the wording in others. For example, "[Thanos] putting [Captain Marvel] out of commission" became "[Thanos] putting [Captain Marvel] in her place".
ETA: The edit reason left for removal is "Nobody cares".
Upon further inspection of their edit history, I found some other red flags.
They (twice) added the following to YMMV.Clarence here and here:
Furthermore, they made an overtly transphobic edit in Heartwarming.Critical Role, link here, where they removed information about a "genderfluid" person (not familiar with the work, just quoting as I read) citing that "Nobody cares".
Edited by RoundRobinopenLeonEmbers Film
The troper LeonEmbers just deleted a good chunk of examples from the Awesome.Avengers Endgame page with a mere Edit Reason of "Nobody cares." See here.
Looking through the examples they deleted, I noticed that most of the examples this person deleted just so happened to be Awesome Moments where the superheroines got to shine. So not only is this person deleting a lot of Moments put together by other Tropers with a very weak Edit Reason, but the Moments that were deleted referred strictly to the superheroines, so this person is coming off as sexist and misogynistic. I don't know if that was their intention, but it looks a bit obvious.
open Watched a part of the show June 9 on A&E early afternoon Film
I was watching a pre-recorded movie named Trapped Sisters and once that movie was done My recording service records the following aired showed but it doesn’t list the name of the show. Part of the show included: a mafia type guys drive up to a prostitution street open car doors and shot every pimp/guy standing on street, then they opened their doors and out came their prostitutes and there was one guy left alive one of the men told him to come and gave him a message that he now owns this street.. and that the end of recording.. been trying to find the name of this show since...
open Early 20 century America detectives Film
Looking for the name of a tv show that was streamed on one of the platforms about a group of detectives trying to find out who is murdering young queer boys. To find out the wrong man was shot and thrown over a bridge.
openPossible Harsher in Hindsight misuse Film
I'm 90% certain that this isn't kosher, but just to be certain... The following are from YMMV.The Usual Suspects:
- Harsher in Hindsight:
- It's impossible to view the film the same way after Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey were both hit with numerous accusations of molesting young boys. Especially uncomfortable because Kobayashi pretends to threaten Verbal's nephew with castration if he doesn't follow along Soze's plan.
- When you think about it, Kevin Spacey (or at least his character) being revealed to be rotten all along is pretty much what happened in real life, too.
- According to Kobayashi, Keaton, McManus and Fenster participated in hijackings involving material that was meant to be shipped to Pakistan to be used for a nuclear reactor. Since the release of the film, Pakistan became the eighth country to possess nuclear weapons.
The first two are comparing events in the film to unrelated RL events. The third one is too politically charged; I'd cite ROCEJ and cut it. Thoughts?
there was kids tv educational program when I was a kid, it had two aliens and computer that had a female voice that traveled around the world in a saucer teachings kids about ancient egypt,volcanoes, oceans etc I've been trying to find the name of this show/ program for years.