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openExample to Trope: 'Working Class Anthem' Film
Hey Tropers,
I stumbled upon the trope 'Working Class Anthem' and thought it would be great to contribute an example to it.
- Example:** The song 'Jame Raho' from the movie 'Taare Zameen Par (2007)' could be a fitting addition. This song, featured in the IM Db top 250, encapsulates the daily grind of two brothers. The elder brother adheres to a rigid routine, waking up early, preparing for school, and conforming to societal expectations imposed by parents and the community. This portrayal mirrors the disciplined approach often associated with the working class, where adherence to norms and responsibilities is paramount.
Conversely, the younger sibling rebels against this conformity, refusing to conform to the societal mold imposed upon him. His struggle symbolizes the challenges and aspirations of those who seek to break free from the constraints of conventional expectations.
I believe 'Jame Raho' embodies the essence of the 'Working Class Anthem' trope, portraying both the adherence to tradition and the desire for individuality within the working-class context.
Best regards, Sumit
openVansploitation ??? Film
So it seems (I literally discovered this by accident today) that "Vansploitation" is a thing on IMDB, yet no match here? https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/?keywords=vansploitation&ref_=tt_stry_kw
openNeil Breen Redirects Film
I have been trying to add one of the Breenius films onto TV Tropes and everytime I input "Fateful Findings" in the URL, I always get redirected back to his page, every single time, seeing his Breenius smile.
I was wonderig if there is anyway to stop the film link to redirecting to his page? Im no TV Tropes genius (or any genius for that matter) so I dont know
Edited by MoronokiopenAsking for permission to re-add a franchise pothole to an example that had it removed. Film
The Saw example that I had written for Resurrected Murderer back when it was in the TLP had its franchise pothole recently removed, probably because of the fact it covers a single work rather than a whole series (the title was included at the beginning of the example with a colon, then it was removed and the example's alphabetical placement was changed to that of the individual work, Jigsaw). However, reading it a bit without the pothole, I believe it can be a bit hard to discern for anyone who's not familiar with the Saw series title.
Before the edit:
- Saw: Discussed but ultimately subverted in Jigsaw with rumors about John having returned from the dead when a new spree of killings begins around a decade since the last one (wherein John was killed midway through) happened, which kickstarts the film's plot. Come The Reveal at the end, it's shown via a Flashback-Montage Realization that it was an Of Corpse He's Alive ruse made by a new killer.
After the edit:
- Discussed but ultimately subverted in Jigsaw with rumors about John having returned from the dead when a new spree of killings begins around a decade since the last one (wherein John was killed midway through) happened, which kickstarts the film's plot. Come The Reveal at the end, it's shown via a Flashback-Montage Realization that it was an Of Corpse He's Alive ruse made by a new killer.
So, with this said, can I edit the entry so I can add the title back (among some rewording to make the context easier to understand), please?
Edited by Inky100open13 Is Unlucky/Roll Bounce Film
I posted a trope on the "13 Is Unlucky" page concerning the movie "Roll Bounce". But I was not able to tag the film title name. How do I tag the film title so that people would be able to click on the title "Roll Bounce" and go directly to the "Roll Bounce" tv trope page?
Edited by TyvanicusopenHow do I create a Recap page? Film
I'm fairly new to editing on TV Tropes, and wanted to create a Recap page for articles such as Train To Busan and Batman: Arkham Origins, but I don't really know how to create a Recap page or what the proper structure should be. I would appreciate it if anyone could get back to me.
openWhat is the etiquette for adding laconic pages? Film
I’ve been around TV Tropes for a while and doing more serious editing and troping. I’ve thought about adding laconics to pages, but wanted to ask what you usually do in making them (I’ve already read through general tips on how to write one concisely).
Most importantly, how important should a work be to earn a laconics page?
Edited by CanuckMcDuck1openIron Man 2 example over at Video Will Film
I don't think that it qualifies. "Recording made by a person now dead" is far too broad for "video will". Howard lived a long time after making the recording, the message was just something that he wanted to say to Tony because he had the camera set up and the expo prop in the background to refer to. Opinions?
openFlying (1986) tv tropes Film
Somebody can help me with the Flying (1986) tv Tropes's page, please?
openPossible unjustified deletion with vague edit reason. Film
So I revisit the main page for Vengeance (2022) and discover that Surprisingly Realistic Outcome example was deleted, so I look at the history. The troper who deleted that example is Celestial Draco and their reason to delete that example was "Plot happens" instead that saying the example is misused or something like that. Here's the example that they deleted (contain spoilers):
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: During the climax, when Ben shoots Quinten, his first shot is fired from the hip and misses. It's not until he aims properly that he lands a neck shot and a headshot.
Was this troper's deletion justified or not? And what does "Plot happens" mean?
Edited by BubblepigopenSpoilers for other films Film
I know moments pages are spoilers off, but what if they contain spoilers for a different film? For example, Die Another Day contains spoilers for three other James Bond films.
openLevel 9, really? Film
I noticed on the Mohs Scale of Violence Hardness page that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is at level 9, because of "what appears to be brief unsimulated footage of an actual chicken being decapitated during the psychedelic boat trip scene. " I get that "Use of footage of real-world graphic violence" ranks high on the scale, but you can't tell me WILLY WONKA is at the same level of violence as Begotten, Event Horizon, or The Human Centipede. I think it should be lowered a lot.
Edited by HaydenM2001openGrown Ups Film
How exactly do I do redirects? I’m trying to make a page for Grown Up 2 with Adam Sandler but it takes me to the first film’s page. Here’s what I did here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.FilmsOfThe2010sFranchises&page=10#edit39700222
openGrown Ups Film
How exactly do I do redirects? I’m trying to make a page for Grown Up 2 with Adam Sandler but it takes me to the first film’s page. Here’s what I did here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.FilmsOfThe2010sFranchises&page=10#edit39700222
openThe Lion King Film
Between WesternAnimation.The Lion King 1994, Theatre.The Lion King, and WesternAnimation.The Lion King 2019, why is the page for the 1997 Broadway musical the one without a year, even though the stage version doesn't mark the original telling?
openReport Troper for Highly Inappropriate Edits Film
Rockand Roll Movies 1996 keeps adding innappropriate tropes to the Human Characters page for "Toy Story", including stuff about Andy (a kid) and his Mom having an incestuous, pedophilic relationship. I've told him to stop multiple times now but he keeps undoing my edits without giving any explanation.
When I messaged him directly about this and his other edits that have a perverse nature to them he replied saying "people deserve to know".
Edited by GaryKing95openI Thought That’s What He Said Film
I’m desperate to find out which trope this example is connected to:
“Hunter S. Thompson once said to me, ‘Bruce my boy, the movie business is a cruel and shallow money trench, where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.’ Then he added, “There’s also a negative side.’”
- Bruce Willis, What Just Happened (2008)
openpossibly fetish mining troper with scat porn entry Film
a guy named Tropers/opal6561 just added an entry about scat porn to Live-Action Films (N-Z), describing it while also saying he wouldn't.
i'm worried that this guy is putting his fetish out while pretending he isn't. is there something that needs to be done?
openSecond opinion on YMMV entry for "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" Film
Hi all. This definitely isn't a huge deal—but if it's alright, I was hoping to get a second opinion on an entry that I added to the YMMV page for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice a few months back.
In June of last year, I added an entry for They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot that reads as follows:
- As Bob Chipman notes, the titular showdown between Batman and Superman makes surprisingly little use of both characters' unique abilities and skills, and largely fails to utilize the elements that would theoretically make the matchup interesting to watch. Superman is partially depowered by kryptonite gas shortly after the fight begins, leaving him without most of his trademark abilities (other than Super-Strength), while Batman relies more on his strength-enhancing suit of powered armor than on his signature stealth, cunning, and gadgetry. As a result, the climax becomes a mostly generic fistfight between two slightly stronger-than-average men—and apart from the costumes, it could easily be the climax of any mundane action movie.
Shortly afterward, my entry was removed by another user with the following justification:
- "First,Superman is deliberately limiting his powers as to avoid hurting Batman ("Stand down! If I wanted it, you´d be dead already!"). Second, Batman actively exploits that restraint by using Kryptonite weapons. Third, why are taking a random guy in the Internet seriously?"
With respect to the other user: I wasn't pointing out a plot hole, I was pointing out a potential criticism of the filmmakers' creative decisions. My point wasn't that the fight between Batman and Superman doesn't make sense from an in-universe perspective; my point was that the filmmakers chose to stage the fight in a way that made it less interesting and entertaining for the audience than it could have been, which is why I think it was a fitting example of They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot. And I briefly cited a professional film critic (who also made that criticism of the film) to show that I wasn't the only person who felt that way.
Normally, I'd take this up with the person who deleted that entry, but they're evidently no longer active on the site. Does anyone else have any input on whether that was an appropriate contribution?
Edited by PaygeTheNightMoth
I want to do an Informed Attribute writeup for Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader but I have no idea where to put it. It seems pretty YMMV but also seems very specific to place directly in the franchise-wide YMMV page.