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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
16th Jul, 2019 02:21:57 PM

The characters are all CG, but aren't the locations live-action? I say leave it where it is.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
16th Jul, 2019 02:31:15 PM

It's also being advertised as a "live action" film even if it...well...isn't.

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
16th Jul, 2019 02:38:11 PM

Its not an All-CGI Cartoon since the CGI its portrayed more realistically.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
16th Jul, 2019 02:49:14 PM

^^^ The entire thing is CG.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
16th Jul, 2019 03:31:32 PM

Unrealistic proportions is not a requirement for the trope All-CGI Cartoon. The medium of the work is computer-generated three-dimensional feature-film length animation.

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chasemaddigan Since: Oct, 2011
16th Jul, 2019 03:55:06 PM

According to John Favreau, there was only a single shot that had live-action elements in it in the entire film. Despite this, he and Disney seem to be approaching the film as live-action in the promotional material. This also despite the fact they've never actually referred to it as a "live-action" remake, because it technically isn't. It's a weird situation.

For what it's worth, we've labelled Disney's Dinosaur as an animated film in all except namespace. And that film had photo-realistic animals with live-action backgrounds, so it has less animation than the new Lion King.

Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
16th Jul, 2019 04:30:56 PM

I've brought this up before but it's still listed under Film.

It's a weird middle ground? It's almost completely CGI and it's not apart of the Disney Live-Action Remakes series, but it's being promoted as live-action.

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
16th Jul, 2019 04:31:43 PM

Seems pretty open-and-shut to me. It's got no significant live action footage in it, it goes in Western Animation. Or in Disney, I suppose, although it always struck me as a little silly that Disney gets its own name space for some reason.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
16th Jul, 2019 04:49:12 PM

we've labelled Disney's Dinosaur as an animated film in all except namespace.
Not exactly; the Disney namespace is only given for animated films (both feature-length and Short Film examples) produced by Disney, as per this thread, which also determined that live-action works by Disney would not be included. So if you see a work in the Disney namespace, you can expect the work to be some sort of animated film.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
16th Jul, 2019 04:50:12 PM

The Original The Lion King is in the Disney namespace.

thecarolinabull01 Since: Jun, 2014
16th Jul, 2019 06:29:02 PM

Then shouldn't it be re-named Disney.The Lion King 2019 or something?

bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
17th Jul, 2019 12:47:24 AM

The 2019 film is not eligible for the Disney/ namespace.

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
17th Jul, 2019 04:38:39 AM

I do agree that we're hitting a bit against the limitation of the namespace system with this one, but I would still vote to keep it in Film/ for simplicity's sake, and keep it included in the Disney Live-Action Remakes by default.

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
17th Jul, 2019 05:30:28 AM

The 2019 film is not eligible for the Disney/ namespace
Can you explain this claim? I've already cited the thread that created the policy on what is allowed in the Disney/ namespace and it says the opposite.

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Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
17th Jul, 2019 08:36:16 AM

IMO it shouldn’t be in Film, since it’s not live-action. It doesn’t matter that it’s realistic CGI; by that logic all movies that are Animesque should be in Anime.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
17th Jul, 2019 08:40:57 AM

AFAIK, Disney/ is specifically for the Franchise.Disney Animated Canon.

Which, now that I think about it, probably shouldn't be in the Franchise/ namespace since it's explicitly only the Disney theatrical animated movies, thus only covers one namespace.

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RoundRobin Since: Jun, 2018
17th Jul, 2019 09:18:49 AM

FWIW, we've already got two Live Action Adaptations under the /Film namespace: Film.Mowgli and Film.The Jungle Book 2016, even though both movies are mostly CGI and MoCap.

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Kayube Since: Jan, 2001
17th Jul, 2019 09:30:50 AM

Both of those did at least have a live actor in them. And it's probably not worth it to try to categorize movies with both CGI and live action in them based on how much of each is in the movie, because how do you even count that?

Edit: Hang on, there's actually precedent the other way as well. The Alice Comedies are under Western Animation; they're almost entirely animated cartoons that have a live action person in them. Whereas You Ought to Be in Pictures is under Film- it is mostly live action but the cartoon characters are the focus.

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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
17th Jul, 2019 10:15:37 AM

There are certainly edge cases where a compelling argument could be made for putting a work with both extensive live-action and CGI elements in either a live-action or animated namespace.

This does not appear to be an edge case. It is entirely CGI, with no live-action actors and with only a single live-action shot inserted essentially as a goof. Labeling it live-action would be like labeling South Park live-action because they pasted a photograph of Saddam Hussein's head over an animated body.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
17th Jul, 2019 05:32:47 PM

So, is the verdict approaching that the remake's page should be moved to Western Animation? I think that's where it should be placed.

BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014
17th Jul, 2019 08:54:16 PM

If we're comparing precedents, I know WesternAnimation.Beowulf 2007 is also under Western Animation.

Karxrida Since: May, 2012
19th Jul, 2019 04:14:33 PM

Yeah, it should probably be moved to WesternAnimation.The Lion King 2019

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
19th Jul, 2019 05:55:33 PM

Has been moved to Western Animation.

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