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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2019-07-15 08:39:21

For a good example of inanimate objects qualifying for the character page, see Cast Away. The MCU infinity stones do not receive enough characterization to be included.

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Asherinka Since: Jan, 2018
2019-07-15 11:59:35

These are definitely not characters but where does one put tropes related to recurring Plot Coupons in a franchise instead?

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Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
2019-07-15 13:02:37

For the MCU, they can go on the pages of the films in which they featured and under the trope section of Franchise.Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
2019-07-24 11:37:07

Lots of people have this really obnoxious habit of treating anything that isn't literally just a piece of scenery as a character.

Video game pages seem to be especially bad about this, with random enemy units being treated with equal significance to the protagonists and antagonists.

I started a thread about the Sonic the Hedgehog character pages, and even had a mod weigh-in, but it stalled out.

Edited by Primis
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2019-07-24 11:37:24

Yeah, we do have main articles. It's not like there's any requirement for Characters subpages, but if we're going to have them, they should be about characters, not plot devices.

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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
2019-07-25 14:08:49

So... no one will mind if I delete them?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-07-25 15:08:46

Sounds good to me. They aren't characters. Even random enemies can potentially have some kind of characterization, though most if not all of that can be noted in the main page(like Boss in Mook's Clothing).

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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
2019-07-25 15:44:36

Inanimate objects shouldn't be on character pages unless they're treated like a character (for instance, the Companion Cube has a profile on Characters.Portal, which I think is OK, especially since it does talk in the Lab Rat comic). As for random enemy units, I see no problem with including them, considering There Is No Such Thing as Notability.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-07-25 15:53:55

Actually, TINSTAN is more for works in general.

There's been some discussion on if mooks should get a character page or not before. I don't think a consensus was made. The only important part was "it still needs real context" regardless. A lot of the issues came from the huge amount of ZCE problem with the Pokemon pages. Not that I wouldn't love fleshing out some neat mooks in one of my favorite games(Quest 64), but many don't have anything that aren't "sit on chairs" issues, as they lack most characterization beyond a decent animation. There's some actual fun trivia, but they're not important to this wiki either(stuff like animation swaps, hidden details in their designs, stuff they really doesn't add anything).

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Tharkun140 Since: Apr, 2016
2019-07-25 16:06:31

All of this just makes me wish there was a namespace meant for items/creatures to be troped. Having all the tropes regarding some important artifact (like the Infinity Stones) is quite convenient, though listing them on a character page is an obvious case of misuse.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-07-25 16:16:14

The thing is? Why doesn't it work on the main page. The stuff they do is still context-reliant and still works for the main page too.

I don't remember what area on this site exists for suggesting namespaces. It could be a fun idea, or maybe a case of Just For Fun?

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Unicorndance Since: Jul, 2015
2019-07-25 16:31:48

Also, the TARDIS is on the character sheet for Doctor Who (essentially the Doctor's time machine). Is this allowed?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-07-25 17:03:36

It says the character is sentient, so maybe? It has a pretty big trope list. I never watched the series, but at least the page looks reasonable?

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DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
2019-07-25 17:12:10

The TARDIS has demonstrated itself to have a certain degree of intelligence and a will of its own, and further is stated to literally be alive (the Doctor references TARDIS's being "grown" rather than "built") so I think it qualifies.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
2019-07-25 17:24:23

^ x7 — There Is No Such Thing as Notability means that any work can have a page on the wiki, regardless of how obscure it is. It does not mean "put whatever you want, wherever you want."

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