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I made some changes to my proposed page. I also added some more examples.
I think that Second Year Protagonist could be split, or used for 'enforced tropes' only, being put into No Straight Examples, Please!.
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How would the "enforced only" proposal work? Do we have enough examples that could allow that without eventually sending it into "not thriving"?
Since we have multiple proposals, I'll start up a page action crowner. she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
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Okay, it's started. If you have a suggestion that's not listed, feel free to add it!
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Okay. Since we got 98 pages (according to a text editing program), I'll do every other page.
Be back in a bit!
Edited by Berrenta on Oct 27th 2020 at 7:46:35 AM
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And now, the wick check for doing every other Characters/ wick plus the final one to make it 50.
- Amagami: 6 ZCE
- Beyond the Boundary: 1 "they exist"
- BlazBlue: Central Fiction: 1 "they exist"
- Boys Before Flowers: 1 ZCE
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Scooby Gang: 1 "they exist"
- Coμ - Black Dragon in a Gentle Kingdom: 1 uncertain, maybe correct
- CROSS†CHANNEL: 1 unclear
- D-Frag!: 1 "they exist"
- Detentionaire: 1 "they exist"
- Dream Festival!: 1 ZCE
- Flip Flappers: 1 uncertain, may fit a different school-related trope
- Freezing: 2 "they exist"
- Girls und Panzer - Oarai Academy - Anglerfish Team: 1 uncertain, but leads to "they exist"
- Gonna Be the Twin-Tail!!: 1 ZCE
- Ground Control to Psychoelectric Girl: 1 ZCE
- Haiyore! Nyarko-san: 1 ZCE (irrelevant info)
- Heartache 101 ~Sour Into Sweet~: 1 ZCE
- Hidamari Sketch: 4 ZCE
- High School Musical: The Musical: The Series: 4 "they exist", 1 aversion
- Im: Great Priest Imhotep: 1 aversion
- Isuca: 2 "they exist"
- Kamen Rider Fourze Kamen Rider Club: 1 ZCE (commented out)
- Kill la Kill - Ryuko Matoi: 1 "they exist"
- Kiss Him, Not Me: 1 ZCE
- Kiznaiver: 1 ZCE
- Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions!: 2 ZCE
- Love Live! Nijigasaki High School Idol Club: 1 "they exist", 1 correct
- Marginal #4: 1 "they exist"
- Mayo Chiki!: 1 "they exist"
- Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun: 2 correct
- Persona 3: S.E.E.S.: 1 "they exist"
- Persona 5 Adult Confidant AU: 1 "they exist"
- Persona Disappearing Dreams: 1 ZCE (commented out)
- Phantasy Star Online 2 - Earth: 1 "they exist"
- Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live: 2 "they exist"
- Rewrite: 1 "they exist"
- Sarazanmai: 1 "they exist"
- Senran Kagura: Nintendo 3DS: 1 ZCE
- Song of Memories: 1 "they exist"
- Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 70 to 75: 1 "they exist" (pothole)
- The Ending Chronicle: 1 "they exist"
- The Marvelous Misadventures Of Tsubasa Hime: 1 ZCE
- The Politician: 1 aversion
- Toradora!: 1 "they exist"
- Valvrave the Liberator: 2 ZCE
- Waiting in the Summer: 1 ZCE
- Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches: The Main Couple: 2 "they exist"
- YuYu Hakusho — Team Urameshi: 1 "they exist"
- Yumekui Merry: 1 "they exist"
- Yuri Kuma Arashi: 1 "they exist"
Yeah, I knew it. Vast majority are ZCE or chairs. Was surprised to see some correct uses.
Edited by Berrenta on Oct 27th 2020 at 8:41:10 AM
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What? I've never heard that; in fact many Japanese high schools require students to be part of a club.
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Calling in favor of cleaning. Let's see if we can save this.
In addition, sending the freshman and senior struggles to the Salvage Yard has unanimous support.
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We got 227 wicks to check. If it's ZCE or treated as chairs, pull it.
Added context to some works I'm familiar with.
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
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Okay, going through and cleaning up the examples. I'll need a second opinion on the Characters.Cross Channel entry.
- Second Year Protagonist: The dynamics are there, but the actual school system makes it difficult to say how strictly accurate it is.
I marked it down as unclear when doing the character sheet wick check.
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Okay, Characters/ have been skimmed. I have a feeling that some that were PSOC during the check are now more fleshed out. That's a good sign. The remaining wicks are either correct or uncertain.
What's concerning is the wick count now: 111. I haven't checked the work pages completely; we'll see how the wick count is once that's done.
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Okay, moving on with the cleaning and removing bad examples, I'm thinking the final count will be healthy enough to keep the trope around. Those of you that expanded on the entries that were previously marked ZCE or chairs, good job. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
Since that'll be the case, I'll add the trope to Square Peg, Round Trope as a reminder.
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Okay, looks like I'm done wick cleaning. The remaining wicks are either sufficient in context or are uncertain, or serve another purpose.
Time to skim through the trope page. We can comment out the ZCE or chairs entries instead of removing them. Crosswicking in either direction is permitted.
Edit: Salvage Yard option is done.
Edited by Berrenta on Oct 31st 2020 at 12:56:59 PM
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Noting that I started a draft for Senior Year Struggles. Looks like Berrenta commented out the ZC Es on the page![[awesome]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/minis/award_star_gold_3.png "[awesome]"){kind=small}
Does the description need to be amended? Should we clarify that it's not just about any sophomore protag?
Edited by Synchronicity on Nov 4th 2020 at 6:35:15 PM
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Yeah, that would help.
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You know what, I might consider proposing a trope for Freshman Fears instead.
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Sounds good.
In the meantime, I'll start crosswicking to and from the SYP page tomorrow.
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Okay, exported as much as possible to work pages, so wicks are now up to 88. Now, to scan through the others to see if we can expand on some on-page examples.
Edit: 85 now; one's got forgotten chairs examples, one was from a page added after the sweep, and the third one I will contest here.
Edit 2: Does Flip Flappers fit some other trope or will it fit the proposed freshman trope?
- Second Year Protagonist: Cocona's main initial conflict stems from choosing a high school after graduating.
Edited by Berrenta on Nov 14th 2020 at 5:32:56 AM
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I'm not sure if it could be included or not, though I will keep the example in mind.
EDIT: I have now proposed a trope page for Freshman Fears.
Edited by callmeamuffin on Nov 15th 2020 at 9:21:17 PM
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Well, I'll just leave the example in this thread just in case.
Anyways, looks like we're done.
Edited by Berrenta on Nov 15th 2020 at 11:01:13 AM
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Crown Description:
While meant to show cases of setting characters into an in-between grade level in school for the plot, it is often used for "sophomores exist". This determines the best course of action.
If you want me to do a partial check on the character sheets only, I can do that.
Edited by Berrenta on Oct 27th 2020 at 12:31:44 PM
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