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Mind showing us the current entry and your proposed rewrite?
I haven’t done any rewrite yet since I wanted to consult this thread first. Here’s what the entry currently looks like:
Definitely rewrite. Ive seen two of the films (Yucca Flats and Red Zone Cuba) myself, and this entry doesn't do them justice.
So All-Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder was just added... wasn't that ruled out a while back for being So Bad, It's Good?
Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Oct 19th 2019 at 10:50:05 AM
Yeah The comic is terrible but it's near universally agreed to be way too unintentionally funny to be horrible.
Adding it there doesn't seem right.
A work can be Horrible and So Bad, It's Good, as evidenced by Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing.
But yeah, that seems too campy to be horrible.
I have to agree that ASBAR has too much comedic value to qualify as So Bad It’s Horrible. Additionally, it had an Absolute edition published, so somebody had to have liked it enough (whether ironically or unironically) to warrant demand for it.
On an unrelated note, I’m currently working on a rewrite of the Coleman Francis entry per the consensus of this thread. Should the Agony Booth quote in that entry be kept or moved to the quotes page?
I'm curious, discounting Donkey Kong's IMB Porting Disaster, has Nintendo ever made a game that qualified, or do they have a zero Horrible work streak? Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival is seemingly a case of Americans Hate Tingle (Japanese publications like Famitsu are more lukewarm), Metroid Prime: Federation Force has some positive reviews under its belt, and Mario Kart Tour is Critic-Proof. For that matter, what are some other studios that have yet to make a Horrible work?
Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Oct 20th 2019 at 9:53:48 AM
Jacob Sartorius in on Horrible.Musicians, probably to ride on the back of the negative reception he has. However, I've seen he has a sincere fandom of teenage girls and reached mainstream popularity, which isn't a feature of Horrible musicians. He has also hit the charts several times, with "Sweatshirt" and "Hit or Miss" hitting #90 and #72 in the US and the Last Text EP hitting #32 in US also. I don't think would be criteria for Horrible.
Edited by PrincessPandaTrope on Oct 20th 2019 at 8:55:28 AM
I agree (though I personally can't stand his work). He doesn't fit the bill.
I've added another Nintendo game port I've been meaning to add for some time now: Coleco's Atari VCS port of Donkey Kong Jr., which could well compete with Atarisoft's IBM PC port of Donkey Kong in sheer awfulness.
This was added to Horrible.Video Games Other:
This reads like a knee-jerk reaction to something that just came out. Making a whole entry all about one game's subscription model (not even the game itself, just the subscription) seems like a bit of a stretch.
So Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon was just added... wasn't that well liked in the past and got it's modern day reputation from Caustic Critics and John K draining his reputation out the window? Don't get me wrong, it probably qualifies now, but what if a work didnt qualify in the past?
Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Oct 25th 2019 at 10:55:59 AM
Also I'm pretty sure Fallout 1st qualifies, but it got added waaaaay too soon.
Hid the Fallout entry
I read up on Peppermint Park recently, and I'm wondering if that show qualifies for the Horrible page? Or is it too So Bad, It's Good for it?
Probably qualifies for both ala Big Rigs.
RE: Fallout First, here's articles about the issues the service is facing.
"For Scrap Boxes, Bethesda said that “a small number of players with a large quantity of scrap are experiencing a display issue causing their Scrap Box to appear empty.” The studio thinks this is a user interface issue and that players have not lost any scrap.
Update, 11:40 p.m.: Bethesda Game Studios has continued to investigate the Scrap Box issue and now acknowledges it is more than a menu display problem for a small number of users.
“Our initial investigation indicated that this was a display issue, and that no items had gone missing,” a Bethesda representative told Polygon. “However, we have since found that a small number of players have in fact experienced a loss of scrap items after placing them into the Scrap Box and then loading into a world."
Edited by lalalei2001 on Oct 25th 2019 at 10:03:13 AM
Fallout First was added back.
Two of the three bullet points are complaining about bugs which will probably be fixed at some point. Drop these, and all we're left with is complaining about the service being poor value for its price, which isn't really enough to be worth making a whole new category on the page just for it.
Edited by Zuxtron on Oct 25th 2019 at 1:07:58 PM
I don't believe Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon" was ever well-liked.
@Almighty King Prawn The Babe Ruth Story is another example of a well-received work in its day that had its reputation sour over time.
Even if "Adult Party" was liked when it came out, I'm not entirely positive that'd stop it from being horrible. Opinions change, people definitely hate it now, and if there's hardly any fans left to be seen...
Fallout First should absolutely be deleted, since it's only an optional part of a work that has already been decided to not be Horrible. Horrible is supposed to be for entire works that are bad. If anyone really needs to vent about the subscription service, Scrappy Mechanic would be the most appropriate place for it.
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