Everything is big in Texas, including descriptions.
Anything before "Unfortunately some writers will" can be condenses into a couple of sentences.
The title is also a Stock Phrase that only sort of relates to the trope, and a lot of examples are just "this work takes place in Texas", not in a stereotyped version of it. Will present a wick check at some point later on.
Also FYI, if the definition is fine but not the description, you can take to the Trope Description Improvement Drive
, no need for TRS. I do think there are additional issues here though.
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I think the first few paragraphs would be better off in an analysis/useful notes page. It takes far too long to actually reach the definition.
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By way of noting, all other states listed on UsefulNotes.The United States have a page in the Useful Notes namespace. Texas seems to be the only one that doesn't.
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"Everything is Big in Texas" is more a saying than a stock phrase, though it honestly should be "Everything is Bigger in Texas."
That said, we should have a Useful Notes page for Texas at UsefulNotes.Texas. If this is a setting trope in practice, then it ought to be fine as a trope. I'll wait for the wick check, but still.
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(a) I agree it should be "Bigger", not only "Big".
(b) More importantly in my opinion the whole introduction needs rewriting (maybe save the good stuff for Useful Notes). 90% of it misses relating to the trope at all, and the whole stuff reads like a (arguably) Texan's bitter justification about how great Texas is and how unfair it is that people treat poor Texas so mean but how most of the stereotype is a joke by Texans themselves. It's not so much the content but the whining tone and the "justifications" like "Oil isn't a field for the stupid" plus a word like "unfortunately". I do agree that we don't use the other Wiki's "Neutral Point of View" approach, but the article in question should still describe the trope, maybe point out that it is of course only stereotypes and not necessarily the truth(TM). But other tropes with content that may irate the group at hand I don't see this happen, not even on All Germans Are Nazis, where the apologies are shorter and - more importantly - come after the trope has been established. It maybe doesn't even need to be shortened too much, but rewritten.
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I honestly would rather try to move it away from the "Everything's X With Y" snowclone.
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Sandbox.Everything Is Big In Texas is created; go nuts.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Long-awaited wick check, works pages only. Everything's Big in Texas has 352 wicks.
Texas as a setting, with any characteristics (this includes Texan characters): 12 Stereotypical Texas: 8 Trope name as Stock Phrase: 4 Insufficient context: 6
- Characters.Seasons Of Love Originally born in Houston before her parents divorced and she moved to L.A. with her mother. Insulting the state is one of her Berserk Buttons.
- Audie Murphy: Pothole
- The Oh Hellos: Pothole
- Technobabylon: Regis came from there before joining CEL and creation of Central.
- The Blackjacks: Mulligan is from Sweetwater. Lanza is from either New Mexico or Laredo. Note: Based on the rest of the page, would count as Texas Stereotypes if expanded with context
- Quidditch Through the Ages: Pothole
- Universal Wrestling Federation USWF: Had all of their shows in Amarillo, and West Texas. Most of its talent came from Texas amateur wrestling clubs.
- In the Eye of the Beholder: The story takes place in Texas and just about everyone apart from the Velvet Room denizens are from Texas, which reflects in more than half of the QIB being of Hispanic descent and high school football being very popular. Borderline with Texas Stereotypes
- Rise of the Reds: Born and raised in the Lone Star State. Why do you think he loves tanks? Also borderline
- Barney & Friends: The series was filmed in various parts of Dallas throughout its run, ranging from Allen to Carrollton. "Barney in Concert" was performed at Dallas's Majestic Theatre.
- Texas Vampires: Pothole
- Survivor: Blood vs. Water: Pothole
- Girl Meets World: While Lucas and Zay are not examples, Girl Meets Texas seems to have the group in a Texas where all people wear cowboy hats, boots, and speak in Texan accented drawl, with at least one character speaking nothing but gibberish.
- A City of Weirdos: Rail features citizens packing firearms on a level that could only be found in Texas.
- High Roller Casino: The gambler is a bombastic, beefy man with a white stetson hat.
Gambler: "This one's for Texas!"
- Shirobako: Cathy plays just about every Texas stereotype perfectly straight. Outlandish cowboy outfit? Check. Grew up on a ranch? Check. Always talking about cattle? Check.
- Over the Edge: The two Texas businessmen whom Fred is trying to attract to the two fit some of the stereotypes, like ten gallons hats and Deep South accents. However, they are among the few perspective characters in the movie, and who warn Fred about everything he's doing wrong, to no avail.
- Rattlesnake Republic: The show takes place all across the state of Texas, and plays up many stereotypes regarding the Lone Star State, such as most of the hunters having a Texan drawl to their voices, as well as wearing Stetsons and cowboy boots & chaps (the latter being Justified in that they provide a degree of protection against snakebites).
- The Red Tape War: Honeylou Emmyjane "Marshmallow" Goldberg wears a cowboy-themed outfit, complete with hat, speaks in an exaggerated drawl (until the book decides to just translate her dialogue in place), and lives this trope in every way she can from her first appearance.
- Due South S 1 E 05 Pizzas And Promises: Tex Markle is a big, boisterous fellow in a cowboy hat.
- True Capitalist: Said verbatim in the 8/18/11 show.
- Be Cool, Scooby-Doo!: "Gremlin on a Plane" features the world's biggest airplane, which is owned by a Texan. Note: reference to name of trope, unclear if phrase is used
- Call of the Wildman: Several episodes have had Turtleman & Neal travel to Texas to catch critters, Neal mentioning this trope almost verbatim when describing a huge diamondback rattlesnake They had to contend with.
- Xiaolin Showdown: Clay is a big guy who comes from Texas. Omi learns from him in the first episode that "it's not your weight, it's how you throw it around." Literal interpretation of the title.
- Everything Is Big in Texas: Relatively well-off, considering the USA isn't too forgiving, and Louisiana and Oklahoma aren't all that friendly either. To be expected, given that Steve Jackson is based in Austin.
- Catherverse: Even Texas itself, as it has merged with Louisiana!
- The Nail Gun Massacre: [Commented out trope name only]
- Revolution: One thing most characters can agree on is that you do not want to mess with Texas. It's also big enough that you can hide out there and no one will mess with you as long as you keep your head down.Note: Borderline into Texas Stereotypes or Stock Phrase ("Don't mess with Texas" being another common saying)
- Neighbors from Hell: Pretty much a constant parody of said trope. Also applies to most of the women on the show, as well.
- Tropes D to I: Sandy.
Based on this, I think the main problem is the description. Should this trope be:
- Any use of Texas as a setting?
- Any stereotyped depiction of Texas?
- A specific stereotype of Texas (which one)?
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I vote to split "Texas as a setting" and "Texas as a basis for stereotyping". Make both No Real Life Examples, Please!.
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"Work is set in Texas" doesn't sound like a trope to me. The Other Rainforest was just "work is set in the Pacific Northwest", so it was changed from a trope to a Useful Note. The works can just be listed on UsefulNotes.Texas (does't exist yet?).
The sterotype of Everything Is Big in Texas is probably a trope.
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I'd say make UsefulNotes.Texas and have Everything Is Big in Texas be the trope for Texas stereotyping.
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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The first several paragraphs of the article have nothing to do with the trope; they just set the scene for the actual description, but a several-paragraph-long introduction kind of drags on, especially when it's a majority of the article.
I think we should clean up most of the introduction, though some of it may be well-suited to an Analysis or Useful Notes subpage.