That green-energy guy is Yamoshi.
Let's get the obvious theory out of the way. He is Yamoshi, and the green energy he releases is because of him being the original Super Saiyan, as Vegeta said when seeing Kale's transformation that her transformation was "the Super Saiyan's true form."
The new guy is related to Yamoshi, but isn't him
Who knows, maybe one of his comrades that managed to return to life.
The New Guy motivation.
He wants to kill Goku because he is responsible for bringing Frieza back.
Goku will be revealed to be a decendant of Yamoshi.
Another one of my theories that I don't want to be true. Basically, Yamoshi was a pure hearted Saiyan that tragically died while fighting off against the evil of his race. But what if he and one of his comrades had a baby together? And that little girl, in turn, was a distant ancestor of Gine, Goku's mother?
Basically, is a way of turning Goku into a Messianic Archetype by Blood Knight standards, as this makes Gine the equivalent of the Virgin Mary and Yamoshi as the equivalent of King David.
As I said, one of the theories I don't want to be true.
Yamoshi will be inspired by Madara Uchiha.
Due to at least three comparisons regarding Naruto
, (Hit's time powers being similar to Tobi's; Zamasu's Light of Justice being similar to the Susanoo, and Jiren's backstory being very similar to Sasuke's), is easy to suggest this new guy will either inspired or influenced by Madara Uchiha.
- Jossed, is Broly and is inspired by his old countertpart. Or Tarzan.
Cabba, Caulifla and Kale will have a role in the movie.
Maybe as a cameo, as Vegeta went to Sadala, or just to say how similar Kale's energy is to the new guy.
Goku will travel back in time, and he will be the one who teaches Yamoshi how to archieve the Super Saiyan God transformation.
I'm cynical here, let's hope is not true.
Frieza will find the new guy somewhere in space, awakes him by accident, and a short fight happens where Golden Frieza is trashed. Then the new guy will go to Earth because
, and Frieza then appears to save the heroes' butts and deliver more information about him
The movie will start with a narration of the Original Super Saiyan story narrated by Frieza or Vegeta.
Because Vegeta already knows about the legends and the history of the Saiyans, he is the resident Mr. Exposition
. However, Frieza, now that he is alive, will deliver a bit of commentary on how he came to know of the Saiyan legends.
The Villain will fall in love with Bulma and Chi-Chi.
Because as Vegeta said to Goku, Saiyans love strong-willed women
.When Bulma tries to be bitchy and piss him off, the guy wont hit her. Hell probably try to kiss her, which is WORSE than smacking her!
- Or possibly he will fall in love with Chirai, Frieza's female goon.
- Semi-confirmed. Director Nagamine implied that Chirai and Broly, along with Lemo as the third wheel, would have a growing relationship with each other (with disastrous results).
Vegeta will be afraid of the Villain.
Probably like how he reacted to meeting Broly. Hell space out and drop on his knees. He probably wont save Bulma if the guy smacks her like Beerus did.
- How appropiate you mentioned Broly...
The villain will be closer to an Anti-Villain
like Beerus, and not really evil.
I kinda feel like whoever the original Super Saiyan is can't really be all that evil in the grand scheme of things. Dragon Ball
historically has a rather loose
definition of pure, to say the least, so it's not implausible he's an evil bastard, but I think it's unlikely.
And by extension an Evil Counterpart
to Goku, like half the villains he fights. Specifically he'll be based off the more amoral aspects of Sun Wukong, compared to Goku being a more positive expy. Reflected the above he may be more "a different code" than outright evil.
- Kind of Jossed. The original Broly was inspired by Sun Wukong, but this one appears to not be the case.
The Saiyan villain won't be Yamoshi, but his killer
Green Dude is an amnesiac Saiyan who joins Frieza's army
Notice the armor: is the same
Alright, this is my wildest theory. Toriyama and Toei tend to recicle elements in their works, so I'll guess Shallot from Legends is possibly a Proto-Green Dude (An ancient Saiyan who got amnesia), and seeing from what little of the teaser he can be seen, this guy is wearing the armor of the Frieza forces, not Sadala's armor, meaning he is from Universe 7.
Here is the idea. This guy was encountered by Frieza during his travels through the universe, and noticing his powerful, yet familiar aura (Possibly from the Tournament of Power), he decides that instead of killing him, he offers him to join his army (Similar to what he offered to both Goku and Vegeta in Namek and his revival).
Because the guy has no memories or wasn't present during Frieza's genocide, he joins his ranks and starts to become Frieza's pet. The guy possibly has a good relationship with Chirai, perhaphs romantic, giving the dude a Morality Pet (As in, they are both bad guys, but they care about each other)
- The reason why I believe Chirai will be a romantic interest for the new dude is mostly for how the female characters have been treated in the past. With the exception of Tournament of Power fighters, all of them become romantic interests.
- Green Dude is wearing the same black and green armor as newcomer Lemo, who is a member of the Frieza forces.
- Confirmed on him joining Frieza, jossed on him being amnesiac. He is Broly.
Broly is Yamoshi's reincarnation
He is so strong because he has literally the soul of the original Super Saiyan inside him, which is consistent with his 'Legendary Super Saiyan' status.
Cumber could be the ancient evil saiyan that killed Yamoshi (and Shallot could have been an associate of either of the two). Since Toriyama confirmed that destiny will play a role in the film's story, that could be the reason Goku and Vegeta are facing Broly.
- I highly doubt Toriyama cares about Cumber, who is an antagonist from a videogame. I can see Shallot appearing as a little cameo, but even then, not a big chance.
- Jossed, nothing about this ever comes.
Since he is the father of Broly. The film will introduce the Dragon Ball Super version of Paragus, however he will only appear in the backstory like Goku's Dad.
- This is all but confirmed, since Katsuhisa Houki, the voice actor of Paragus, is confirmed to have a role in the film.
- It is now confirmed, Paragus appeared in the trailer, ordering Broly to attack Goku and Vegeta. It is also jossed that he will only appear in the backstory, he has seen to be still alive in the present.
Bardock will make a cameo in a flashback and Goku and Vegeta will fuse to defeat Broly
This is based on the three movies that are being remastered and released to theaters before Movie 20 releases: the original Broly
movie, Bardock: Father of Goku
, and Fusion Reborn
. We obviously just got confirmation of Broly as the main villain, and the movie will feature saiyan history and their relationship with Frieza, which is a perfect way to link it to Bardock
. Unless they bring in Janemba in some way, shape, or form, Gogeta is the only other thing they can bring from Fusion Reborn
, even if Vegito has the 'canon fusion' spot already.
- Confirmed with Bardock: It will be an adaptation of Dragon Ball Minus, meaning he has more than a cameo, being a secondary character.
- Confirmed with Gogeta.
Kale will fight Broly at some pointBecause why not?
- Maybe in Dragon Ball Heroes or Xenoverse, but Kale and neither Gohan are likely to appear.
- If it comes to her to defeat Broly, then Kale would be Goku's Godzilla Threshold if he can't defeat Broly by himself or not at all.
- As I said, jossed. Not in this movie.
King Vegeta, Tarble, Raditz, Nappa, Bardock, Gine, Tora, Selypa, Shegush, Borgos and Turles will appear in a flashback.
King Vegeta will be the one who order Broly's imprisonment. The other characters will appear in the background of flashbacks as cameos.
- Confirmed with King Vegeta, Bardock and Gine, with this being an adaptation of Minus.
- It appears an animator included Borgos as a cameo in a scene.
- Confirmed with Raditz and Nappa, Bardock Gine and King Vegeta. Jossed with everyone else.
Other Dragon Ball Z movie characters and Dragon Ball GT characters will become Canon Immigrants
- Definitely within the realm of possibility, seeing as how in the canon timeline, Cooler and such were never dealt with. That being said, if Cooler gets added, we need to see Frieza help the Saiyans fight him.
- Confirmed, Paragus is the second Canon Immigrant.
Dragon Ball hasn't had a proper, Pure-blooded, soul-bearing Saiyan antagonist since
well, Broly himself. And, as weve long established, a pure-blooded Saiyan loves nothing in the universe more than a good fight. Rebooted Broly could show this on a level weve never seen before. Even Vegeta came to Earth for the Dragon Balls first and was more bitter about the showdown with Goku than anything, Turles only came to plant the Tree of Might and OG Broly had a mental fixation. But Reboot Broly could come to Earth for no reason than to fight a Super Saiyan God. Unlike Beerus, he has no secondary agenda or duty to fulfill and, if Goku cant best him, hell just take out his rage on any of Gokus loved ones he can to feed his fighting spirit. In essence, he will be the Saiyan bloodlust that watched as Freeza and Cell reached their final forms incarnate.
There will still be a Mythology Gag
to Broly's old characterization
Even if it's just a throwaway line noting that he hates crying babies.
- Or him yelling Kakarot.
- Some visuals are reused from the old Broly movies, so that's a confirmed.
The next Dragon Ball series will adapt this movie as its first story arc
And like Beerus in Super
, Broly will become a recurring character for the rest of the series. Even if he's killed off in the movie, he could still be resurrected later.
Its not out of the question. If Vegeta, Piccolo and the Android twins could do it, there's no reason Broly can't.
- If I might add, it's worth noting that a couple of lines during the third trailer mention how Broly isn't really a bad guy and how he isn't fighting Goku and Vegeta because he wants to. Makes one wonder...
- He doesn't join the heroes, but he and Goku part ways on good terms.
They do look alike.
- Like Bulma and Vegeta, she ends up feeling sympathy for Broly so that's a confirmed.
Goku and Gohan will use the Father-Son Kamehameha
As a call back to the second Broly movie.
- Nothing says Gohan will appear in the movie.
- Counterpoint: Nothing says Gohan will not appear in the movie.
- The inmense Out of Focus about Gohan in promotional material indicate he will not appear or will have a minor cameo at best. All the major players have been revealed, and Gohan is not one of them.
- And I have said it, ***Jossed***. Gohan doesn't appear at all.
Broly will despise Goku because of Goku's obsession with getting stronger.
The trailer to the movie seems to imply that Broly still suffers from With Great Power Comes Great Insanity
in this continuity. The trailer also has Whis asking Goku why he wants to become stronger, with Goku bringing up his experience at the Tournament of Power as a reason for getting stronger. Broly might envy Goku because he can train and become stronger without losing his sanity.
- Jossed. After the whole conflict happens, they are chill.
Bulla will appear and will have grown some Hair.
The trailer to the movie shows Bulma holding Something Blue while sitting next to Whis.
Broly is a clone of Yamoshi and possibly other Saiyans as well
Going off the prominence of what looks to be a Saiyan baby in an artificial womb in the trailer and possibly reading too much into the phrase, "A new Saiyan", it seems possible his origins are artificial. After all, if the movie is already featuring a new twist on one beloved villain, why not reuse Cell's schtick as well?
A common complaint about Dragonball Super is the lack of tension in some of its arcs. By killing off Beerus, it would also remove Whis (who can bring people back to life) from the conflict, since it is stated that when a God of Destruction dies, its Angel attendant will be "decatived" until another is assigned to replace the previous one. Since we know that Angels don't die when their Go Ds
are killed (as shown in the Tournament of Power arc) this could be an opportunity it explain what it means for an Angel to be "deactivated".
Toriyama and Toei are obviously fully aware of the popularity
of Broly, so there is no way this movie will be an one-and-done deal with this character.
If a sequel happens, Caulfila, Cabba and especially Kale
will get involved to help Goku and Vegeta fight Broly again
Since it doesn't seem likely that the U6 saiyans will be in this movie coming in December 2018, a potential sequel could involve them in a major way. This sequel could be used to explain the different history and evolution of the Universe 6 saiyans, Cabba taking Vegeta to meet the king of Planet Sadala, Goku meeting Caulifla's gang, the full backstories for Caulifla, Cabba and most of all Kale, particularly why and how she is the Legendary Super Saiyan of Universe 6, and other interesting lore.
The Big Bad
of the movie won't be Broly.
The Big Bad
will be Paragus, with Broly under his control acting as his Dragon-in-Chief
Paragus old design from the Z movies will appear in this movie.
Paragus will have his old appearance as his younger self, in flashbacks that are in the movie.
Ultra Instinct will reappear.
Pretty obvious if you ask me, but Ultra Instinct will certainly reappear in the movie in some form.
Broly will be a Tragic Villain
, and will die because his own power consumed him.
Basically the Legendary Saiyan will die because of his overwhelming energy consumed him. This is playing with both Broly original concept and Manga Kale latest chapter where Cabba outright states she could have die.Since Toriyama wants to add him something, he possibly meant "pity".
Tarble will be mentioned or appear.
Because Toriyama is the writer, and he remembered Vegeta's brother in Battle of Gods
Broly will be revealed as the subject of genetic tinkering.Giving more of an explanation to his power
, it'll be revealed that Paragus
has been using Frieza's technology/lost Saiyan tech to alter Broly to become more powerful. Broly is the descendant of the Legendary Super Saiyan, and Paragus has been tinkering with his genes to make him the ultimate Saiyan. Following the above theory that Broly will be a Tragic Villain
, his insanity will be down to being treated as a weapon his whole life
and experimented on for a destiny he never asked for. His hatred for Goku will instead be because he hates how Goku had a happy life and got strong, while he was brutally modified.
It'd also be somewhat of a contrast to both Frieza and Cell, as both were the result of winning the genetic lotttery(Frieza being a mutant freak and Cell a mishmash of the most powerful soldiers), but while they're card-carrying villains
Broly will have good reason to be pissed at the world and wants to hurt people because he wants to get back at the world that hurt him.
Broly Came From Universe 11 & He Killed Jiren's Family
He's stated to be at least as strong as Jiren, considering he appears after the Tournament of Power and if he's the same age as Goku, the timeline would allow him to have possibly been an adult when Jiren was a child.Also, Beerus and Whis should have tabs on beings that can rival their power. If Broly came from Universe 7, they would have recruited him for the Tournaments. A villain who came from Universe 11 wouldn't be considered to fight alongside the Pride Troopers, especially since the foe that killed Jiren's family seemingly went off the radar at some point.
- Seems unlikely, given there doesn't seem to be a way for Paragus and Broly to have entered Universe 11 in the first place(let alone when Jiren was a child).
- Jossed. He was born on universe 7, and remained in Planet Vampa all of his life.
Kale will face Broly either in this movie or at a later time.
You know you want it to happen.
We will see a fusion, but not between Goku and Vegeta.
Specifically, I'd think a fusion between Goku and Frieza
would be a badass way to show the stakes and power of Broly. Mortal foes, forced to share a body.
Back in his pre-death days, Frieza has Broly "commissioned" as a genetic experiment to create the ultimate underling; ludicrously powerful, but completely subservient. However, something went wrong, and Frieza had him discarded (which might possibly be the reason for Frieza's long-standing hatred of the Saiyans.) When Goku and Vegeta find Paragus' ship, Paragus mistakes them for two of Frieza's henchmen (in Vegeta's case...fair enough) and orders Broly to attack. Sending Broly's power, Frieza shows up to put down this threat to his empire, resulting in the Goku/Vegeta/Frieza fights that the trailers highlight. This would also give context to Frieza's awed comments on Broly's power; he's hesitant to congratulate anyone's
power, but delighted that his own experiment did actually turn out so strong.
Broly was adopted by Paragus as a Replacement Goldfish
and they have been trapped in a planet all their life.
My take: Paragus's real son (Possibly the unnamed Saiyan nicknamed Pollo) died in a tragic accident, and it made Paragus adopt Broly as his own son. This makes him a foil to Grandpa Gohan
, and Broly a paralel of Goku (As he was adopted, but unlike Goku, his youth wasn't the best for some reason)
- Another idea I had is that the reason why nobody has heard of Broly is that, unlike the original one, Paragus and Broly have been trapped for decades in one single planet without the opportunity of getting out.
- Jossed on the Replacement Goldfish part, confirmed in them being trapped for decades in planet Vanpa.
Gotenks will appear in the first act.
We have confirmation that Goten and Trunks are appearing in the movie, but due to how Out of Focus
they are, their role will be pretty minor. What if they will be in the movie for another reason: to show the Fusion Dance
as a Chekhov's Gun
? They will show Gotenks in the first act of the movie with Goku and Vegeta present to remind or show the viewers about it, and it will pay off by bringing Gogeta, who is confirmed to have a new form thanks to the Xenoverse datamine?
The film will show Frieza meeting Beerus.
It was stated in Battle of Gods that Beerus was the one who told Frieza to destroy Planet Vegeta. Since the second trailer shows both King Cold telling the Saiyans that they will be taking orders from Frieza as well as the Destruction of Planet Vegeta, it's likely that we'll see what happened with the Saiyan's under Frieza's command. Because of this, I would not be surprised if we get a scene with Beerus appointing the task of the planet's destruction to Frieza.
Son Gohan (Sr.) will appear in a flashback.
It will show him finding Kakarot after he landed on Earth, and Gohan will give him a new name Son Goku.
Paragus will seek the Dragon Balls to revive King Vegeta.
He wants to revive King Vegeta, just so he can have his revenge against King Vegeta.
Brolys immense power if the result of the zenkai boost taken to its logical extreme
Thanks to growing up on what promo materials indicate was the extremely hostile planet Vampa and all of the scars on Brolys body in the concept art, it can be inferred that the saiyan may well have been on the losing end of a number of fights, despite his latent potential. And weve seen time and again that near death experiences can give a saiyan a truly substantial power boost. So it seems possible Brolys power could have simply come from nearly dying over and over again and coming back stronger every time. This could easily also explain his cold, misanthropic attitude hinted at in the trailers.If the retcons to Bardocks backstory have made Goku more like Superman, maybe it would only be appropriate to make Broly more like Doomsday.
While earlier Saiyan-era depictions of Frieza suggested he didn't look any different from the present
, the trailers show he's more pinkish, seems to lack the white bio-armor and doesn't look like he's completed his development. While King Cold only appears briefly he does looker younger and has a more similar skin color to Frieza's second form, suggesting that while they may be Long-Lived
it might not be as wide a margin from human lifespans as previously thought. Plus the trailer shows Cold appoints them to his son rather than Frieza doing so alone, implying he's yet to become the de-facto head of their organization
when meeting the Saiyans. Frieza is actually going through whatever his species is
considers puberty when he rules over Planet Vegeta. By the time he appears in Namek he's in the human equivalent of his mid-late twenties. This also makes his All for Nothing
search for immortality all the more hubristic when he's in the prime of his life and has a long
time before the reaper starts calling.
Broly will be defeated via a hurl into the sun
In addition to serving as great Mythology Gag
to his death in Second Coming
, the hurl into the sun method has seen a lot of love in non-canon media (Broly, Cooler and Baby were all beaten with it) but never been utilized in the series proper. A bit like Broly and (the still rumored) Gogeta. Not to mention it could make for a cool counterpoint to Frieza's destruction of Planet Vegeta: a dual image of a giant fireball hurled at a planet and a relentless monster thrown into a giant fireball.
- Jossed. He is teleported back to his planet.
We will see the appearance of both Ultra Instinct AND Fusion.
Since both are being floated as techniques that might potentially be enough to stand up to Broly, it may be possible that both will make an appearance. With Goten and Trunks confirmed to appear, Broly will go after them, provoking Goku enough to let him unlock Ultra Instinct and fight evenly with Broly. However, as with Jiren, the toll on his body will be too great, forcing him to revert back to base and fuse with Vegeta (or possibly Frieza) to mount the final offensive.
- You posted this in the same day this was jossed. Besides, Ultra Instint is not fueled by rage.
Broly will become the next God of Destruction for Universe 7.
In the first trailer, we see Broly and Frieza fighting in a volcanic area. In the third trailer, we see that same landscape again, but this time it appears Whis is getting ready to fight. Broly is incredibly strong in the film, so it's possible that Whis will take interest in him and start training him to succeed Beerus as Universe 7's God of Destruction once Beerus retires or dies.