These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
Andre dating Hope just to get her father to listen to her music: Was Andre stepping into the Ryder Daniels horizon just to get recognized, or was it justified for having to put up with Hope's bitchiness?
Part of the latter might be true. In Slap Fight, Robbie says he hates himself for the way he acted, only for Cat to point out that he's hated himself for years.
Or is Robbie really not in control of Rex's words and actions, i.e. Rex is an alternate personality?
Much like Alan Harper, is Robbie a Jerk Ass that deserves to be a Butt Monkey, or does the universe constantly screwing him over justify his behavior?
The show seems to paint Trina as being unsympathetic for being untalented/not being Tori, but many fans tend to view her as The Woobie. Her own parents are abusive towards her, her classmates (except occasionally Cat and Sinjin) treat her worse than garbage, and the universe seems out to get her.
Tori and Trina's parents being apathetic towards Tori and borderline abusive towards Trina. They leave town so they don't have to deal with Trina after after surgery, tell her to her face that they are ignoring her, and clearly favor Tori. Mrs. Vega, at least, is not too much better to Tori; flaunting that she made breakfast and telling Tori she has to make it herself, then bragging about how she used up all the ingredients herself so Tori cannot make breakfast after all. She also tells Tori she'll be there for her when Tori is having a crisis, then tells her to close her eyes and leaves.
Does Jade have a Freudian Excuse for her actions, or is she just a horrible person who doesn't deserve friends?
Some fans speculate that Beck sometimes deliberately invokes Jade's overprotective nature, as mentioned under It Amused Me on Beck's character sheet.
Base Breaker: The entire episode "Prom Wrecker," mostly because of the debate over who caused the entire conflict. Alternative Character Interpretation comes into play here, too: Was Tori a bitch for not trying to reschedule the prome, which ended up being on the same night as Jade's play, or was this a little payback for Jade's bitchiness? Was Jade's revenge justified because Tori did not reschedule? Was it Sikowitz's fault for not warning Tori about the schedule conflict? Did anybody cross the Moral Event Horizon here, and was the episode itself a Crowning Moment of Awesome?
There is some evidence of a Tori/Rex ship as well.
Broken Base: Most of the cast were Flanderized in some degree or another in Season 2, but Cat and Jades were the most severe.
Jade, like Sam, Megan and Zoey, has split the fans between those who like her and those who hate her. While her Creator's Pet status is a lot harder to see then with, say, Sam, it is still hard to ignore once first noticed.
The show's cancellation - Word of God himself makes many claims regarding it. These include that it was not cancelled for Sam and Cat, and that it wasn't "cancelled", so much as it was going to end anyway due to closing in on a 60 episode run (which was around the likes of his twoother shows aside from iCarly had). Were these claims nothing more than convenient lies to appease the fans? Was he getting tired of doing the show or is the claim that he and everyone else wanted to continue it the truth? Or was the show ended thanks to the angry anti-fans who for the longest time couldn't stand when he would hold the show in such high favor and seemingly provide total disregard to iCarly itself?
The real truth was revealed by the person who ran the (also cancelled at the same time) show How To Rock. As that person didn't need to protect Sam & Cat, he made it perfectly clear that all of the shows being cancelled are being cancelled because of Sam & Cat and the (Now defunct) Gibby spin-off.
At least towards the end of Season 3 she seemed to have gotten a little bit nicer. Like when Cat accidentally ruined Jade's social life at school, her revenge was making Cat eat a large bowl of bush peas (which she hates), considering Jade she was going easy on her. And in the last episode, Jade decided to spend the night at Tori's house, the worst thing she did to her was mess up the pizza she was making by telling her to put way more flour than necessary then ordering a pizza.
Designated Hero: Tori. Sometimes, she does some very morally questionable things, such as kissing someone else's boyfriend for payback or selfishly leaving a friend behind at the Sushi place.
Also, Jade sometimes gets this when she's portrayed as a hero.
Designated Villain: Sure, Robbie's no saint, but you feel like the crap he has to go through is way too much.
Hope Quincy from Andre's Horrible Girl. Yes, she is spoiled and controlling, but Andre only kept dating her to get a music deal with her father, he breaks up with her on her birthday, and when she is seriously injured from a peice of falling debris, her own father won't go to the hospital with her, choosing to listen to Andre sing.
Die for Our Ship: Beck often gets this treatment from Jori shippers, as does Tori from some Bade shippers.
Draco in Leather Pants: If we're not supposed to like Jade for the horrible things she does, her fanbase makes that hard to believe.
The bloody scene in "Tori Gets Stuck" has been considered this by some viewers.
For some viewers, that entire episode is considered this trope.
Also, Robbie's dependence on Rex and Andre's rarely-seen grandma come perilously close to "let's laugh at the mentally ill." Some believe Cat also qualifies, since it was said in one episode she has psychological problems.
We're supposed to think Trina deserves her parents not caring about her because she is selfish and egocentric most of the time. Not only do a lot of viewers disagree, but few find it funny.
Robbie leaving Tori's house (during the day) in Ice Cream for Ke$ha, only to come back AT NIGHT, having being beaten up by full grown adults for offering their kids ice cream. He was on a bike. And isn't even 17 yet. A group of adults just spent at least an hour beating up a defenseless teenager. Plus, the fact that it's implied the adults find him a pedophile.
A lot of the abuse Robbie suffers through can be considered this.
Worse, nobody EVER cares. They just shrug off Robbie's pain like he deserves it for existing. For example, in "Helen Back Again", Tori's plan to keep Trina in Hollywood Arts involves Robbie getting hurt. Robbie tells her he always hates getting hurt. Tori responds by just ROLLING HER EYES AT HIM.
For some viewers, Ponnie. She drove Tori to the near point of having a mental breakdown and nobody would believe Tori when she insisted Ponnie was real. You would think they'd at least realize that something could be up, but they all just call Tori crazy. Ponnie's behavior bordered on being psychopathic and she seemed to be out to kill Tori.
Rex, Trina and Jade are also quite popular, though they're not as unanimously liked.
Family-Unfriendly Aesop: A video/song on TheSlap has this on purpose. It starts off as An Aesop about not trusting strangers, but later develops into "don't trust anyone".
More blatant than in most other shows, "Beggin' On Your Knees" has REVENGE FRICKIN' ROCKS.
That one may be a little more understandable. The full message is, "Sometimes, it's nice to forgive and other times, REVENGE FRICKIN' ROCKS!!!" What Tori does to Ryder is revenge, yes, but when you consider how many girls he's used like he did Tori, it can also be seen as saying he's not going to get away with what he does anymore (imagine the aesop that would've resulted if Tori had just pitied herself over it).
Fan-Preferred Couple: The preferred couples are split into 2 parts, the canon-plausible het ships, and the implausible (as Nickelodeon is extremely unlikely to approve them) Les Yay or Ho Yay pairings:
Het pairings: Andre/Tori, Robbie/Cat and Jade/Beck are the preferred couples, and form a nice neat set of Ship Mates, leaving only the older Trina out.
Jade/Cat was the preferred Les Yay pairing in Season 1 and was arguably the most preferred couple in the fandom as a whole.
Jade/Tori has left it for dead after Season 1 and is easily as popular if not more so than Jade/Beck is.
Robbie/Beck seems to be the preferred Ho Yay pairing.
Fanon: Jade's middle name, August. Jade and Beck's full names - Jadelyn and Beckett.
Friendly Fandoms: You'll rarely see a Mass Effect fan bad-mouth Victorious- some fans joke that this is because both of their products end terribly (Mass Effect 3 had an infamous ending, while Victorious' final episode is anti-climactic, to say the least).
Also, all of the jokes about Cat's Bibble addiction. Sam & Cat has shown that Cat once ran out of money and then tried to steal and sell her grandmother's jewelry, causing them to have to attend a therapy session for said grandmother to forgive her.
Hilarious in Hindsight: Robarazzi spoofed the conference-like format of TMZ along with a paparazzi-style ambush on Beck and Jade. A few months later, the said show caught Beck's actor Avan Jogia in a "compromising" photo with Hannah Montana star Miley Cyrus on the latter's 18th birthday.
There was a fanfic that parodied The Breakfast Club. Then several months later, an actual episode paying homage to the movie aired.
Trina: In "Ice Cream For Ke$ha", a boy who came on to Cat, Tori and Jade is repulsed when Trina offers to let him kiss her. Can't imagine any het male turning down a chance to kiss Daniella Monet.
Even earlier, in "Wi-fi In The Sky" the idea of getting a close-up look at Trina's butt is supposed to get the response "Gross!" instead of "Thank you".
Robbie may not be a drop dead stud, but he's average at worst. Yet people seem to find him repulsive.
The reason the gang had to particpate in Sinjin's game show in "The Worst Couple" is because the original contestants were not better looking, even though all of them looked like average teenagers.
Jerkass Woobie: Despite being obnoxious, Trina does kinda receive a bunch of crap from everyone that isn't really deserved. Not even her own family wants anything to do with her. It doesn't help that in just after pulling a Crowning Moment of Awesome in "Helen Back Again", Rex ruins her performance in the next episode because she punched him, leaving her seriously injured. Tori's the only one in the Vega family who seems to actually appreciate Trina because if it wasn't for Trina, she would have never gotten into Hollywood Arts.
Rona Patterson can count within the show's standards, while she was mean and grouchy to the girls she becomes this when Cat's candle causes a fire that burns her house down.
Robbie. He's the resident Butt Monkey, his mother left him, his dad is embarrassed of him, and he has trouble trying not to cry. The jerkass part is obviously played for laughs but his woobie moments are actually sad.
Ponnie (Fawn). More on the jerkass end of things. She may have been crazy but she's convinced that the reason she was removed from Hollywood Arts (a school that its students love) was Tori's admittance. So her mayhem against Tori comes from sadness in addition to all the crazy.
Launcher of a Thousand Ships: Cat is the prevalent fandom bicycle, having popular pairings with Tori, Jade and Robbie, and semi-popular pairings with Beck, Andre and Trina, and a popular Crossover Ship with Freddie from iCarly (Now that Sam And Cat is out, Sam has joined the ranks). Just like Sam from sister show iCarly, the fandom interpretation of her is bisexual.
Jade also seems to have attracted a similar amount of ships, with her popular pairings being Tori, Cat and Beck, semi-popular pairings with Andre and Robbie, and a Crossover Ship with Sam from iCarly.
Love It or Hate It: "April Fools Blank" takes this Up to Eleven. Opinions have ranged between the two opposite ends of the spectrum-it's either the funniest thing in the history of the world, or a piece of trash. There was practically no middle ground whatsoever.
The reactions you get concerning Jade fall into this sometimes.
Memetic Mutation: The phrase "If X, (Y, and Z happened), s/he would burst into flames." Most likely derived from the scene discussing Andre's crazy grandmother, "The woman would burst into flames."
Moral Event Horizon: "Breaking up" with Tori becomes one in hindsight for Ryder Daniels when its revealed he was just using her to get a good grade and would've dumped her the moment he didn't need her anymore anyway. This means he broke up with her simply to play with her emotions and make her come begging for him to take her back. A more onscreen one would be telling the boy hooking up his mic that he can have Tori in about 5 minutes once he was through with her. His delivery is so callous it makes it clear he doesn't have any regrets about breaking someones heart.
Cat and North Star. Cat misled a whole bunch of people who were probably in life-threatening situations for a week. A bunch of people probably died because of her, and she didn't even get upset when her friends pointed it out.
In "Wok Star," Jackie Bonet (Trina in disguise) feigns a heart attack in the middle of a restaurant, and while the other patrons are concerned, the owner (Ms. Lee) takes a picture with her while Trina's on the floor to have put it placed on her "wall of celebrities". When the waiter asks what to do with her, she tosses it out this lovely gem:
The Yerbian Chancellor crossed it by sentencing Tori to prison just because his eye was punctured by accident
Vice Principal Dickers crossed it when he gives everyone detention just because they were late after saving Robbie from choking, giving Tori and anyone more detention just for any small slip up that was made, and to top it all off, harassing and threatening Tori in the Janitor's closet! None of this grants him any points whatsoever.
Justified, as it's mostly from Jade. Jade is clingy and jealous towards Beck, and spiteful towards... well, everybody, but especially Tori.
Nightmare Fuel: Despite the show running alongside sister show iCarly, and characters being played by actors younger than the age the iCarly actors are now, this show is not a 'kids' show or even an early teen/tween show like it's sister show. It is firmly a mid to late teen show (not that it keeps ITV from running it on weekend mornings). Even so, it can still go further than that description implies. Some examples:
"A Film by Dale Squires", Cat's character Monica kisses Beck's character, but then dies. Jade's character tries to make sure she's alive, to no avail. Beck's character is then interrogated, followed by a scene where Jade's character takes a bloody knife and cleans it off. (Cat, watching this, gasps.) Jade's character then puts the knife in a drawer with a picture of Monica. After she shuts it, the last scene shows a car driving in the night on a lone road. Plus, that music really feels creepy.
Also in "Beck's Big Break", when Robbie has a dream of a GIANT REX towering over him in a darkened atmosphere while he's in a cereal bowl, and the giant Rex blasts him with snot. Doubles as Nausea Fuel.
Melinda Murray's injury. She gets an arrow impaled through her hand, coupled with her agonizing screams afterward.
Tori gives Robbie three pints of blood. The first is stolen by Jade. The second he drops and gets all over himself and Tori. I will have nightmares forever...
That horrifying video Jade played at the prom in "Prom Wrecker."
Jade's re-audition. A horror film that she wrote, directed, and starred in. It's extremely disturbing. It's Jade, lying in a bathtub with a Jack-in-the-box playing "Pop Goes the Weasel." There are screams in the background and a voice moaning from inside the Jack-in-the-box "Let me out." Suddenly a little boy on a rocking horse appears beside the bathtub and asks, "Why are you doing this?" Jade replies in an incredibly creepy monotone, "Because you're bad." She then starts humming along creepily to the song while the little boy whimpers, "No, no, no, no." He starts yelling "Stop it! Stop it!" The Jack-in-the-box pops open and Jade screams in her "man voice" "POP GOES THE WEASEL!" The little boy completely loses it and starts screaming, "I HATE YOU!!!" while Jade screams back, "I LOVE YOU!!!" It's way creepier than it sounds.
"Terror On Cupcake Street", the second half has the group stranded in a dangerous part of town late at night. Oh, and they're all wearing pajamas and in a cupcake shaped float. The police and tow truck refuse to come there, Sikowitz, Andre and Beck get mugged, the float gets attacked by a group that would have done who knows what if they hadn't gotten scared off, and Tori encounters three tough looking thugs all alone. Once again, she's in pajamas. They're extremely lucky nobody was seriously hurt or worse.
The clown in "Car, Rain, And Fire". No only does he look terrifying. He also creepily asks Tori if he can go to her house. The girls drive away AS FAST AS THEY CAN.
Portmanteau Couple Name: Tandré (Tori/André), Bori (Beck/Tori), Bade (Beck/Jade), Cade or Jat (Cat/Jade) and Cabbie (Cat/Robbie). And that's just the most popular ships.
Protection from Editors: It's becoming more and more obvious as the radar list grows that we here at TV Tropes are... fans, to say the least, of the show. Considering the fanservice for both genders, can you blame us?
Ship Mates: A common triple Ship Mates consists of Tori/André, Jade/Beck and Cat/Robbie. It avoids anyone having to Die for Our Ship or even having to break the only canon pairing up.
Tori/Beck can be this for Jade/Cat shippers, either to set the stage (if Tori steals Beck away) or as a means of throwing Beck a bone (if Tori and Beck get together after he and Jade break up).
Things get a little more interesting if your One True Pairing is Jade/Tori. The Ship Mates for that one can end up being Cat/Beck or Cat/Robbie (the former being ideal, as it allows you to avert both of the popular Jade pairings). May also involve a nasty breakup between Beck and Jade in order to set the stage. Unfortunately, there aren't many people who've been willing to set those two up together.
Paradoxically, Jade/Beck and Cat/Jade go very well together. Beck/Jade stories will often have some focus on the Cat/Jade friendship, or even a nod to the romantic ship, or even (in rare cases) say that Cat and Jade are Friends with Benefits.
Ship Tease: Happens a decent amount. "Jade Gets Crushed" is huge one though. There's Jade/Andre as the main plot with some Tori/Andre in the scene where Tori dresses and acts like Jade.
Tori/Jade gets more Ship Tease than the canon Tori/Beck in season 2, turning Jade into a classic Tsundere for Tori, while Tori seems to be pushing Jade's buttons to try and get Jade to admit her feelings for Tori.
Tori/Beck in "Opposite Date".
Cat/Robbie in the Berry Ball episode.
So Bad, It's Good: Trina's one-woman show. Eventually weaponised by Robbie to avoid writing a bad review.
Trina's acting/singing in general.
Robbie's songs about broken glass may also count, depending on the definition of bad.
Tear Jerker: The look on Tori's face when she learned announced that she was being kicked out of Hollywood Arts in "Helen Back Again." Her crushed look, followed by her bursting into tears, was enough to break anyone's heart. It was also a great sign of her Character Development, since in the Pilot she was questioning whether she even belonged there, but now it would kill her to have to leave.
Trina's status as the Un Favorite. It's really depressing that we're laughing at a character whose own parents wish she would just go away forever.
Plus how the show tries to justify it with Trina being a Spoiled Brat.
Jade's breakdown to tears in 'Jade Dumps Beck' was heartbreaking, considering she is usually so intimidating, and now she's sobbing asking for help from her enemy. Also, Robbie in 'Rex Dies'. The way he responds to Rex's accident reminds one of how they feel when they lose a pet.
"The Worst Couple," specifically the end to the A-plot.
Fans did NOT react well to Rex's, or should we say Christopher Cane's, greatly increased roles in the "Evenings with Victorious" and "iCarly". Possibly a reason for his Ensemble Darkhorse status is getting in a few funny lines and dissappearing for a majority of the episode. In-universe, Trina seems to be this to everyone around her.
To some fans, Tori herself, who suffers from Character Shilling, and effortlessly succeeding at everything she attempts, despite not being noticeably more talented than anyone else, and a lot more boring, than the other, more complex characters. There are frequent suggestions on forums that the show would be much better if it focused on the likes of Cat and Jade.
Cat has been descending into this territory as of Season 2 due to Flanderization.
They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The iCarly crossover. There was little to no interaction between characters from either show except for the ending. The plot was the same of 'Beggin On Your Knees' except the villian is a two-timer, and Tori was the only one with major interaction with the iCarly gang, as well as a minor rap battle between Robbie/Rex and Sam.
In "Prom Wrecker", Jade tries to ruin Tori's prome. It was mentioned earlier that Cat got 12 gallons of blood for Jade's (cancelled) show. Now, what exactly could she do with blood at a prom she's trying to ruin?
"Jade Gets Crushed"-Andre falling in love with Jade, they could have him and Beck fighting, Jade feeling conflicted, and maybe giving Cat an actual role. But no.
"How Trina Got In" could've been a good opportunity for Trina to receive Character Development and reveal that she does have talent, but instead, she performed during Sikowitz's Mushroom Samba, thinking she was talented.
Jade:(close to tears) "This kite is broken. I was just walking around and (voice breaks) I saw this kite in a bush, and... and it's broken and somebody should fix it!"
Cat in "WiFi in the Sky". The poor girl was just having some fun with the effects... Granted, she was distracting everyone from the project and not really helping, but she's Cat. Tori could've known what was going to happen if she yelled.
Cat again, in Cat's New Boyfriend. Her squeaking voice and devastated facial expression when she caught Tori on the act of kissing her boyfriend makes you want to hug her. When she asks "Why would you be mean to me?" the moe/woobiness is just amplified.
Jade in "Wok Star". Hard not to feel sorry for someone who had her play rejected by the school, then got offered the chance to perform it, only to have the person funding it force her to change a scene in a way that was going to make her play look like a joke in front of her overly-judgmental father. (Who, by the way, hates that she wants to be an actress.)
Jade again in "the Worst Couple." And Beck in "The Worst Couple."
Sinjinn. He's not COMPLETELY ignorant.
Andre: Why are you crying?
Robbie: Sometimes, it's hard for me NOT to cry...
He's a Jerkass Woobie, but it's mostly played for laughs. The other examples tend to be more serious.
In one episode, its implied that his mother left because of him. Definitely Woobie status.
And then there's Andre in "Jade Get's Crushed."
"But if I sing her the song, then she'll know how I feel, and then Beck will know, and then I'm a bad person, and I promised my grandma I'd never be a bad person . . . you know, before she lost her mind"
Tough Act to Follow: Despite the general success of Dan Schneider's works as a whole, the series in general was hard pressed to live up to the praise of Drake and Josh and iCarly, and Zoey 101 to a lesser extent. This could be responsible for the show not being quite on the level of the previous works per se, and ultimately kicking the bucket in the end.
Even still, some thought that since Jade was getting punished for her actions (One of the major complaints of Sam and Megan) and no-one's a perfect character (Like in Zoey), that it was actually better then both.
Unfortunate Implications: Tori kissing Beck is supposed to be a CMoA. The implications set in when you realize he has a girlfriend who had to watch the whole thing. No wonder Jade hates her. She may be a bitch, but still...
However, that really doesn't change the fact that Jade kind of deserved it anyway because she was a bully to Tori for no apparent reason.
Plus, Beck totally could've stopped it. I'm surprised that their relationship didn't end right there.
How about the mob of male ballet students, ganging up on the lone female student.
Trina can't remember the name of the only black main character. Makes you wonder...
Well, she remembers Lane, so that's something.
When Andre is told he is to play a pregnant marathoner, his first question is, "Who's the daddy?" Given stereotypes about African-American parents, Unfortunate Implications indeed.
African American stereotypes come up again in Robarazzi when André is accused of having a "Ketchup Problem".
Where does Doug the Diaper Guy take Jade after they're crowned prom king and queen? He was carrying her like a groom would a bride...
Trina's parents obviously don't care much for her, if at all. Trina, most of the time, acts like a Spoiled Brat. It may or may not be intentional, but the show is apparently trying to justify her parents not caring about her with her obnoxious behavior. Umm...
Robbie and Tori's conversation in Helen Back Again:
A Japanese/Chinese restaurant being owned by an immigrant Asian woman (Mrs. Lee) with a poor accent? It's bad, but not that bad because this does occur in real life quite often. But when that woman is the only prominent Asian character featured on the show...ouch.
There was that Asian guy who worked at her restaurant as the karaoke DJ...but then again he too was a bad caricature of an Asian person.
Tori asking Mrs. Lee if she was either Chinese or Japanese (though this may be justified in context).
Any song about a girl will be about having her affection (every Tori/Andre duet we've had except the Make It Shine remix), but any song about a boy is about telling him off (Give It Up, Freak the Freak Out, Take a Hint, Beggin' On Your Kneesnote the latter two are obvious), except Best Friend's Brother and L.A. Boyz. Double Standard, much?
Take A Hint mentions punching the guynote The line is "Get your hands off my hips or I'll punch you in the lips!". You can imagine that if the song was about a girl, there would be an uproar.
Even Best Friend's Brother falls under this trope, as dating your best friend's sibling isn't exactly something smiled upon.
All I Want Is Everything qualifies as well. The song is supposed to be about not just settling for "good enough", but with lines like "Too much is not enough", it sounds more like she's being greedy and arrogant. The music video has her essentially stalking the boy she's after.
In "Beck Falls For Tori", the only ones who joked that Tori might miss the air mat when she was doing the stunt were Andre and a PA, both of whom are African-Americans.
Several episodes focus on Tori kissing another girl's boyfriend.
Unnecessary Makeover: Jade's season 2 hairstylenote Black hair with a blue streak instead of brown hair with multicolored streaks, according to this wiki , has not been seen favorably. In all fairness, according to Liz Gillies, this change came because she felt that she needed a tan after finding herself pale in a bikini in "Survival of the Hottest" (Which she lampshades hilariously). But the producers may have went a bit too far.
In an interview Gillies explains that she was actually too pale and needed to be darkened. This change may not have been wise in conjunction with the other alterations to her appearance.
Wangst: Andre. Certain plotlines usually had him lamenting about a certain disaster either to his talent or a budding musical career, prompting Tori to step in and help for the rest of the episode.
Other examples of this include him doing the same thing with his always kissing girlfriend and never being stung by a bee.
At least the wangst about his girlfriend was somewhat reasonable. She was forceful, which isn't exactly pleasant.