The Magic Versus Technology War
In traditional fantasy
, the available technology (as opposed to magic that just works
like technology) is generally depicted as being relatively primitive, roughly equivalent
to Real Life
sometime prior to the development of modern firearms
. In Science Fiction
, just about anything, from the paranormal
to the supernatural
to Sufficiently Advanced Aliens
with technology that acts like magic
is allowed, except
magic. In the rare fiction where magic and advanced technology exist in the same universe, they rarely get along
. In some cases, they merely interfere with each other for unexplained reasons. Sometimes it actually comes to blows, and that's where this trope comes in.
To be this trope, a series needs to have as one of the primary conflicts, an actual shooting war between a faction upholding magic and a faction upholding advanced technology and science. Typically one side is using magic spells, cavalry on dragons
, etc., and another that prefers technological weapons like guns, tanks, Humongous Mecha
, etc. Note that "Advanced Technology and Science" is a relative term. It may be as little as Industrial Revolution-era (compared to the standard Medieval European Fantasy
), or even higher than modern times. A good rule of thumb is at least one "age" of technological development over that of the Magic-using civilization.
Often tied to a Masquerade
. The war could be the result of The Unmasqued World
; the Masquerade
can serve to protect an Endangered Species
a Genocide Dilemma
. Expect to see a Corrupt Corporate Executive
, Evil Sorcerer
, Mad Scientist
or Wicked Witch
. Compare: Science Is Bad
, Magic is Evil
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Anime & Manga
- In Princess Mononoke, firearms users are at war with the 'gods' of nature.
- In Wolfs Rain the Nobles' science fails to open Paradise, although it is responsible for creating Cheza. She and the wolves search for Paradise by apparently magical means.
- Most of the story of A Certain Magical Index is about a conflict between the Science side consisting of the psychics/ESPers in Academy City and the Magic side consisting mostly of religious groups such as churches. It actually resulted in World War III at one point.
- The actual situation on the ground gets considerably more complicated, with the Science side possessing the support of the Anglican Church and the Magic side supported by the Russian military, which is fairly technologically sophisticated but totally out-classed by Academy City.
- Not to mention that when GREMLIN enters the picture after WWIII, we have one large anti-science faction, one large science faction, and one large pro-science magic faction, and other shenanigans at the same time.
- There is a scene in Mahou Sensei Negima! where a robot army is attacking the school, and the students are armed with magic wands and staves to defend against them. Cue two-page spread of wizards fighting robots.
- The plot of Gate is kickstarted when a fantasy army invades Tokyo. Then the JSDF pushes back.
- "The Magic Wars", in which the forces of Sorcerer's World (aka as Zerox) attack the rest of the technology-using galaxy was a major storyarc in the Legion of Super-Heroes series.
- In Fables, the Fables retake the homeland thanks to assault rifles and a healthy supply of 500 pound bombs. Although this might be a subversion, as they do so in an airship powered by Flying Carpets and make judicious use of the Magic they can muster. So it's more a judicious use of magic as well as modern technology trumps magic than a straightforward "technology beats magic".
- The short-lived Manifest Eternity was to concern a technologically-advanced human-led empire which, after having conquered its own universe, finds itself a target for conquest by an empire of magical beings from another universe.
- In the comic book series Hellblazer, the protagonist John Constantine wins his battles using this trope. He once defeated the god-demon Nergal by trapping him inside a computer, before the computer opened a gateway to Heaven where angels ripped Nergal apart.
- In the temporary Alternate Universe of Earth-26111 during Age Of Ultron, Wolverine killing Hank Pym before he could build Ultron results in a war down the line where the balance is tipped in the favor of magic. In the ensuing Asgardian-Latverian War, the magical forces of Morgana le Fey and Doctor Doom are victorious, with the only people holding out being a small group of La Résistance led by Tony Stark and an army of Iron Man drones against masses of magically-powered Doombots. This universe is Ret Gone by the end of the storyline.
- Easy to find in most Conversion Bureau War Fics and Deconstructions. As for which side wins, it usually depends from writer to writer.
- The Last Ringbearer is a description of Lord of the Rings story as a confrontation between the White Council, who want Arda to evolve as magical civilization, and the Nazguls, who want humans to advance technologically. Mordor is a highly-enlightened and prosperous human civilization, whose citizens enjoy democracy, and its advances start the plot. The White Council summons elves, who hijack their plan and instead plot to conquer Arda, enslave or wipe out humans and stop progress forever. It's not hard to see which side the author is on.
Film - Animated
- In Ralph Bakshi's Wizards, there is a war between the mutants and demons of Scorch, armed with machineguns, lasers, tanks, artillery, and fighters, and the elves, fairies, and dwarves of Montagar, armed with Medieval weaponry (swords, bows and arrows). Slightly subverted in that the technological side is actually led by an Evil Sorcerer whose main weapon is a magically-enhanced Nazi propaganda machine and whose generals he has summoned from Hell. Also, the fantasy creatures rarely use magic in battle and have no problem with using guns when they ambush a Scorch convoy. And the war is ended by the good wizard using a gun to kill his evil brother.
- The Flight of Dragons deals with this element in a way, although the inevitability of the arrival of technology disempowering magical energy is the true force behind the war, which is entirey magical. The forces of magic become involved in a civil war over whether to destroy man's faith in science through fear and superstition or seal the remaining magic away behind The Masquerade where science cannot harm it.
- Dragon Wars has this, in a Crowning Moment Of Awesome in an otherwise terrible movie. The evil snake-demon-demigod thing is about to kill the protagonist and ascend to godhood, and is coiled near the top of an LA skyscraper with ominous stormclouds rolling in as it moves in...and then a flight of AH-64 gunships appear, blowing away the magical stormclouds with their rotors and opening fire on the snake. It manages to kill one of them, but their response? "Switch to Hellfires." The formerly unstoppable avatar of destruction actually screams in pain when it takes a hit from an anti-tank missile, and the Apaches don't let up.
- Also a much smaller example: earlier in the movie, the small-scale Reality Warper villain is temporarily incapacitated when the protagonist runs into him in a car...by accident. He recovers quickly, but when he's about to finish the hero off, he gets hit by another car.
- The Darksword Trilogy: Unusual in that the mages are terrified of human non-mages (effectively viewing them as the undead), the sides aren't depicted as evenly matched, and the war is about ending rather than completing the division between them. It's also one of the few times the magical society is ultimately shown as being clearly in the wrong, albeit through excision of their historical records.
- In Neil Gaiman's American Gods, Odin's quest was all about this, with the "old school gods" (like Oestre, Anubis, Horus, Anansi, Coyote, and so on) representing magic on one side, and the "new gods" (like Television, the Car Gods, the Technical Kid, and so on) representing technology on the other. Turns out, it's all a big con job on the part of Odin and Loki.
- Mark S. Geston's The Siege of Wonder takes place on a world divided into scientific and magical power blocs, each of which is trying to use its type of power to defeat the other.
- Roger Zelazny has a couple of examples:
- Jack of Shadows takes place on a planet that has a magical night side and a scientific day side. At the end of the book the planet begins to rotate, destroying the status quo.
- Changeling is a pure incarnation of this trope. As an alliance defeats an evil sorcerer, they exile his newborn son to another plane (Earth) by exchanging it for an engineer's infant. Both end up in the original world as pawns of forces insistent on expressing this trope as thoroughly as possible. It's pointed out by several characters that the only problem with technology here is that for the war to happen properly, somebody had to make a Face-Heel Turn.
- The sequel, Madwand, appears to mostly be about other things, but a dimension traveler does mention that the events of the previous book provided the momentum to shift the world even farther, towards a Lovecraftian realm. The conflict there is smaller in scope and plays out entirely in the magic end of the scale. There's enough unresolved problems and Sequel Hooks promising further development of the trope and further involvement of technological Earth. Sadly, third book was never written.
- David Weber and Linda Evan's Hell's Gate series is a war between people who use technology of around 1910 and "psionics" versus the people who use magic and magitek exclusively. Word of God says the next book (when it eventually comes out) will introduce a third purely technical side.
- Interworld, by Neil Gaiman and Michael Reaves, takes place in a continuum of parallel universes, with a purely scientific society at one far end and a purely magical counterpart at the other fighting over the totality of existence.
- Phil Jimenez was working on a book called Otherworld for Vertigo Comics, where a group of friends are whisked away into a war between two worlds — a traditional fantasy world and a post-singularity culture. It ended when he was slated to do illustrations for Infinite Crisis, though.
- Mary Gentle's Grunts! involved Orc Marines armed with machine guns and helicopters as one force in a traditionally magical Good vs Evil Final Battle to Decide Everything. The Magic vs. Tech aspect comes into early on - the orc marines weaponry, not being magical has no inherent defence against even the simplest of spells to make it stop working. It becomes imperative that the orcs find a way to nullify the effect of 'fail-weapons' spells on their firearms.
- The Amtrak Wars series by Patrick Tilley is set hundreds of years after a nuclear war has divided the United States into the underground Amtrak Federation and the above-surface 'Mutes', who are on the technological level of American Indians, but some of them also have telekinetic and telepathic powers. The Amtrak Federation are engaged in a genocidal war to retake the surface, and despite pushing a racial agenda are secretly using genetic engineering to try and acquire the Mutes' powers and resistance to radiation.
- The Sidhe series, by Kenneth C Flint, is a retelling of the legend of Lugh Lamfada and the magical Sidhe againt the mutant Fomorians and their leader Balor being forces of Technology.
- In Eric Van Lustbader's Pearl Saga, this war was over quickly, and magic lost a century ago. Now there are only a tiny number of magic-users helping La Résistance.
- Octavia Butler's Patternmaster concerns a conflict between the psychic Patterners and the Sphinxes, who use technology.
- The second book in the Myth Adventures series has the king's advisor encourages his majesty to hire a magician to fight the in-bound army, rather than use soldiers. The country's general then flatly refuses to aid the magician, because he would rather the kingdom fall than have a precedent established that magic is better than military force.
- In Noob, the two factions from the MMORPG the characters are playing are in such a war. There's however a twist in that the technology side has no problem with having magic users among its troops just in case something makes the technology stop working. The magic side, on the other hand, has a technology level that enables some players to have Steam Punk level weapons (versus Science Fiction-level stuff for their enemies).
Live Action TV
- Once Upon a Time: The latter half of Season 2 introduced an order of Muggle Knight Templars who are actively hunting down and killing magic users and destroying magical items using scientifically-crafted weaponry and modern technology. The two operatives that managed to make it to Storybrooke almost destroyed the entire town.
Eastern European Animation
- There is a nice Soviet cartoon called "Ivashka from the Palace of Pioneers"note , where a technologically skilled boy is kidnapped by Baba Yaga as a dinner for her guests (mind-controlling cat Kot Bayun, armored skeleton Koschei the Deathless and dragon Zmey Gorynych) — and uses his bag of gizmos to make short work of her and the guests within minutes.
- Warhammer 40,000 sometimes present this, with the Imperial Guard, the most Real Life like army, fighting Chaos sorcerers and cultists with tanks, artillery and riflemen.
- In the backstory the war between the Necrons and the Old Ones was this, starting as the biggest case of Screw You, Elves! in fiction.
- The Order and Disorder grand conflict of the setting can also be seen as this: on the side of Order, the Necrons and Tau are purely technological (sufficiently so for the Necrons) while the Eldar and Imperium are relatively methodical and disciplined about their use of magic - and they use technology just as much if not more so than magic. The races of Disorder, by contrast, go full bore on magic (most of Chaos), Clap Your Hands If You Believe (Orks), soul-eating and general messing with of souls (Dark Eldar), and sufficiently advanced Organic Technology (Tyranids).
- Not exactly, the Dark Eldar are almost as pure tech as the Tau since they had to drop psychic powers almost completely. The Necrons arguably have a form of magic whenever they start hauling out the C'tans to manipulate reality and while the Tau themselves don't have magic, they have allies who do.
- Happened in one encounter between Chaos forces and recently-awakened Necrons on a tombworld. The aspiring champion recounting the incident said that his cultists summoned demons to fight the Necrons, but found to his dismay that even demons couldn't stop even the most basic Necron warrior from self-repairing what should have been fatal damage.
- Happened in one encounter between Necrons and Chaos forces on a demonworld. To the horror of the Necrons, the reigning Daemon Prince could turn its body into a gateway to hell and dump its enemies inside. No surviving Necrons and plenty of shiny, metal skulls for the Skull Throne.
- Used part of the time in the RPG world of Shadowrun; sometimes the Shamans and Hackers work together, sometimes they don't.
- Some magical effects don't affect technology, and having too much cyberware in your body destroys your Essence (an important stat for magic wielders). On the flip side, powerful technology can warp the local mana, and there are evil Toxic Shamans who draw their power from such warped sources.
- The Ascension War in Mage: The Ascension, between the Traditions and the Technocracy, is kind of like this, except for the part where the "technology" used by the Technocracy is actually magic of a sort.
- More specifically, in the Old World of Darkness, everything ever is magic due to the fundamentally alterable nature of reality. "Technology" just happens to be magic that the vast majority of people in the world believe in without question.
- Rifts has a few examples: The magic-hating Coalition and its wars against the Federation of Magic and Tolkeen, and the Cold War between the tech-hating Empire of japan vs the ultratech Republic of Japan.
- The Japan issue is really a subversion. Despite the New Empire's dislike of the Republic's technology, they actually get along very well with each other, and will readily rush to the others aid. The New Empire simply feels the Republic is merely misguided, and will eventually come around (though the game itself says an eventual merging of the two is far more likely) Part of this is said to be the Japanese reverence for one's ancestors, and given that the Republic is a section of Japan that was warped hundreds of years forward in time just moments before the End of the World as We Know It, they may count in a very literal sense. The technological power the New Empire really has beef with (and rightly so) is the Otomo Shoganate, the former big player on the block before the Republic came back.
- This is the entire point behind the independent Dungeons & Dragons / d20 Modern Post Cyber Punk / High Fantasy / After the End campaign setting Amethyst. Magic was the reason the world went to hell. The Bastions, isolated cyberpunk cities that consider themselves the last humans on earth, are understandably hateful of magic. Magic also causes electronics to turn to dust for no reason, which makes the conflict worse. However, magic also was what saved the world. It's complicated.
- Completely averted by the Phaeron in the game Vor The Maelstrom. To the horror of everyone else, the Phaeron are the reigning masters of super-science and sorcery (only one other race uses both, and next to these two races all the others including the purely technological humans are about as primitive as cavemen are to us). This Magitek and Magic from Technology tandem is the reason why no single faction has been able to withstand the Phaeron by themselves.
- This is the root of conflict between Hammerites and Pagans in the Thief series, except that both sides use magic. The key difference are their goals: the Hammerites want technology to spread and see magic as a stepping stone for that, whereas the Pagans want nature to triumph over civilization and use full-power druidic magic.
- And the Mechanists are even more technocratic in their worldview and religious teachings than the Hammerites.
- In Metroid Prime 3, you find a record of such a war on the planet Bryyo. It had much the same effect as a nuclear holocaust- the Lords of Science were all but slaughtered, while the Primals degenerated into savagery and lost most of the magic they once had. Only then did the last Lord of Science learn to combine technology with magic and manage to stop the planet from literally falling apart. (and create one hell of a landscape) And then, thousands of years later, something else arrives...
- The Machina War in Final Fantasy X. Both sides eventually created a superweapon of magic or technology. Only one side ever used theirs, since both Superweapons were overpowered and capable of ruining the world and only one side was losing bad enough to use theirs. Ironically, the spiritual superweapon was never intended to be a doomsday weapon in the first place. Though the technological superweapon WAS constructed as a doomsday device, it was too difficult to properly use and unlikely to win against than its spiritual counterpart either. Being able to rebuild itself even after absolute destruction as long as it's not spiritually banished gives it the edge against pure technological weapons...
- Rise of Legends is all over this: Vinci are Steam Punk European (mainly Italians), Alin are magical Arabians, and Cuotl are Mayincatec with Ancient Astronaut alien gods thrown in.
- Note that Alin vs Vinci happens mainly in the opening cinematic; the campaign is principally Vinci vs Vinci, Alin vs Alin, Cuotl vs Cuotl, and Alin AND Vinci vs Cuotl, making it more of "Science and Magic vs Sufficiently Advanced Technology".
- The ending, though, implies that the Alin are looking to expand Westward into the weakened Vinci principalities. The sequel, presumably, would fit this trope.
- In Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura conflict between mages and technologists is unavoidable due to the setting's nature. The deadliest conflict between the two sides took place two thousand years ago and led to Fantastic Nukes being dropped on Vendigroth, by Arronax, consequently completely wiping out this civilisation and setting back technology by hundreds of years.
- The closest thing to an actual war known is far more recent, however. The Kingdom of Cumbria preferred magic, the Unified Kingdom led the world in technological development. They got into a war... and because the UK's technology could be used by all its recruits while Cumbria could only afford to give magic to elite troops, Cumbria lost badly. The Vendrigroth incident wasn't really a war, either. Vendrigroth had only gotten so far as designing potential precautions in case Arronax was serious about his threats when Arronax lost his temper and single-handedly wiped them out too quickly for them to counter-attack.
- The free RTS game Glest features two opposing factions, simply called 'magic' and 'tech'. In this case, though, the 'tech' faction is the one making use of swordsmen, knights, catapults, etc, in addition to motorized zeppelins and bipedal war machines, while the 'magic' faction is almost exclusively limited to various spells and summoned monsters.
- Total Annihilation: Kingdoms is built on this trope, but interestingly in two different ways. The vanilla game consists of two factions who follow the old proscriptions against magic except in extremis (as a magical war destroyed a primordial civilization) and instead have invented gunpowder, against two others who freely use magic. The sequel then pits all four of these factions against a fifth with a much stronger Steam Punk technological bent and an absolute ban on all magic.
- The ending is a very awkward peace treaty signed after it is revealed that both groups were founded by the same man.
- This has happened twice in the setting of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. The first was a battle between the weapon-smithing based Lilties, and the magical yukes. The latter won, the Lilties only real defeat before their empire collapsed. Some Lilties intended to learn magic and specialize in both fields, but it was never a wide movement. A millenia or so later, it happened again. This time the Lilties were far better equipped, and the yukes were driven to near extinction, and magic banned in most areas. The Lilty technology in this case classifies partly as Magitek, due to using crystals for power, but is not considered to be magic by the population.
- Spellcross. Here, the conflict has nothing to do with worldviews and everything with a fantasy invasion of modern Earth. Orcs versus marines, tanks versus golems, booyah.
- Mousehunt has Zugzwang's tower, where Mystic mice and Technic mice are battling each other, locked in a never-ending game of chess.
- In The Longest Journey two parallel worlds exist: the scientific Stark and the magical Arcadia. A balance is kept so that no technology goes to Arcadia an no magic goes to Stark.
- In the sequel the conflict between magic and science is heightened: Stark suffered a magic "invasion" disrupting it's technology and starting chaos, while a new empire brimming with technology (of the steampunk variety) is bringing unrest to Arcadia.
- Actually, the Collapse in Stark is due to magic going away. It's heavily implied that most of the advanced technology (e.g. FTL, antigravity) is impossible with pure science and was the result of magic bleeding in from Arcadia through cracks in the Barrier. Once the Barrier is restored by the new Guardian, it's back to using old tech for the people of Stark. By the same token, pure complex technology is impossible in Arcadia due to laws of nature being in flux. Thus, even Azadi technology is reinforced by magic, although you may be arrested for suggesting that.
- Happened in the backstory to Dragon Age between the magic-using human nations and the gunpowder-armed qunari. Humanity won, but it wasn't easy, and the qunari maintain a foothold.
- Recently the Mage-Templar war has broken out. While calling the Templars a "technology" faction isn't completely accurate, what is clear is their hatred towards magic and reliance on good old steel and shield.
- Ironically, in some ways the mage faction seems to be more technologically advanced than the templar faction...considering that one of their members created an apparently easily portable and concealable Magitek bomb that could destroy an entire cathedral.
- Additionally, the Templars get their resistance to magic by ingesting a magical substance called lyrium, which is also used by mages to inscribe runes and craft artifacts.
- Immortal Souls: On one side, all manner of "shadow creatures" powered up by supernatural strength and abilities. On the other side, bog-standard-human Church Militants who make up the difference with Powered Armor and Energy Weapons.
- In the BlazBlue universe, there is the ongoing conflict between the Novis Orbis Librarium and Sector Seven, who respectively use Magic and Technology.
- There's also the conflict in the back-story between the Librarium and the nation of Ikaruga, which didn't use technology per se, but still was opposed to magic: the war was a Curb-Stomp Battle and Ikaruga was effectively annihilated, with only a small Racial Remnant left.
- Also, several characters make use of technology, magic or Magitek to fight. There's one or two who don't use either of them.
- In Jackie Chan Adventures, Section 13 has its agents fight magical creatures with high tech arsenal. These weapons prove to be not very effective, and as Uncle said it "Magic must defeat magic."
- In Transformers: Beast Machines, the heroes are partially organic, mystically inclined robots trying to restore organic life to Cybertron, while the villains seek to make it a purely cold and logical world of nothing but machines. This theme was previously to a lesser extent in Beast Wars II, wherein the heroic, technorganic Maximals fought against the evil, purely technological Predacons. Robots in Disguise flipped the Beast Wars II conflict, by featuring heroic, all-robotic Autobots fighting evil, technorganic Predacons.
- However, it's slightly subverted in that, at the end, Optimus realizes that he misinterpreted his instructions and is not supposed to make an organic world. Instead, he is expected to turn Cybertron into a technorganic paradise.
- Averted in Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers. Magic users and psionics like the Queen, Mogul, and Niko freely use technology or use technology to focus it. The Circle of Thought (Niko's people) don't embrace it and consider it inferior to their mental powers, but they don't hold it against anyone for using it, either.
- The Equalists vs Benders conflict in The Legend of Korra has aspects of this; not everyone can use the magic of the 'verse (bending), only those born with it. However, technology can be used by anyone, and is advancing rapidly. Now those non-benders who consider bending oppressive and unfair have begun to use technology to fight back. Granted, benders have bending-powered technology too, but the difference in capabilities between magitek and normal tech has, at this point, been largely diminished.
- Even if it's not the central focus of the comic, Juathuur shows this trope clearly: Sev'vil wants to use technology to effectively give magic powers to everyone (instead of only juathuur).
- The Court (technology and "etheric science") and Forest (magic, though no one ever calls it that) in Gunnerkrigg Court are basically in this situation. Thanks to cooperation-encouraging mediums like Annie and her mother, it's mostly a cold war at this point, but the two groups were not nearly so peaceful with each other in the past (Coyote dug out the giant ravine between the Court and the Forest in an attempt to stop the fighting).
- Played with in Errant Story. The main countries vary widely in their relative reliance on magic and technology, but are more or less at peace with each other at story time, although the characters do their best to fix that. However, when the very magical elves stray into the territory of the long-departed, but non-magical and very technological, dwarves, a More Dakka situation ensues.
- A centuries-old conflict between magic and technology is a major plot point in Suburban Knights. Ends up parodied, as the anti-technology crusader turns out to be a massive hypocrite.
- The Salvation War. On one side, you have the forces of Earth using modern military weapons and tactics against the hordes of Hell and Heaven, using there powers, great strength, and pitchforks. Turns out the ability to fire lighting at will, regenerate most wounds, bench a Hummer, and running 30 kph without breaking a sweat means squat when your enemy can rain death on you before you can even see them.
- In The Blackrock Chronicle, Rythian has took it upon himself to seek vengeance for Sjin and Duncan Jones' destruction of the the old Tekkit world. Unfortunately, through his actions, he caused Duncan to place a nuke under Blackrock Stronghold in his Duncans Lab series. After Zoey Proasheck almost dies when Duncan's nuke explodes, they have formed an uneasy truce, but only time will tell if it'll work.