"It was not the fault of the Dwarves that the friendship waned," said Gimli.
"I have not heard that it was the fault of the Elves," said Legolas.
"I have heard both," said Gandalf...Many stories will have animosity between a beautiful, highly advanced race or civilization, and a much more gritty, industrial, technological force.note This theme of Harmony Versus Discipline and Romanticism Versus Enlightenment is very common, regardless of the genre. In many fantasy fictions these roles are filled by Elves and Dwarves. Elves are tall and slender, Dwarves are short and stout. Making a physical difference like this is a common way to point out that the two groups are meant as a foil of one another.
- Elves use swords or bows (or both), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use axes, hammers, crossbows or if the setting allows for it, guns, which are primarily about direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.
- Elves will focus on magic and spirituality and evince disdain for material things, or to be more interested in their elegance than their utility. Beauty is strength. Dwarves will focus on mining and smithing, sometimes use muskets or revolver-style pistols and various Steampunk machines and tanks, all representations of industrial, technological might with a much greater concern for utility than elegance. Innovation is strength.
- Elves live in pristine woods, crystal spires or elegant palaces, emphasis on light and natural beauty, openness. Dwarves live in great halls and impregnable fortresses that are usually underground, emphasis on artifice and containment.
- Elves are often masters of diplomacy, debate, rhetoric, Purple Prose, small talk and doubletalk. Dwarves generally prefer straightforward opinions and blunt facts, and aren't overly concerned when somebody's feelings get hurt.
- Elves dress fancily, sing elaborate songs, write poetic literature in flowing script, and strive (or, in some cases, don't have to strive) to epitomize beauty and style. Dwarves are often unkempt, sport long beards and hair, and dress in either simple leather, undyed wool—or steel—and write Beige Prose. Usually in sticklike runes, carved into the rock.
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- Used as a bit of background colour in the Dragon magazine strip Floyd by Aaron Williams. At one point Floyd and his friends accidentally get between an elvish ambush and a dwarven ambush. The reason the two sides are ambushing each other is never elaborated on beyond the fact they're elves and dwarves, and that's what they do.
- In James Cameron's Avatar, the Na'vi are amazing natural archers, have a deep empathy for their environment, are not ones to really mess around, and are tall, slender, and lacking in body hair. The Humans are incredibly skilled at craftsmanship, construction, and engineering, utilize big guns, mining machines, and high impact weaponry, live in dark multi-layered cities with lots of technology and little vegetation and natural light, mostly lack a spiritual connection with their world, and are rather gung-ho and upfront, not to mention short, stocky and hairy, when compared to the Na'vi.
- The classic silent film Metropolis has a leisure class living above ground in luxury, while workers both live and work below ground.
- Thor: The Dark World: We have Dark Elves with Asgardians playing the part of dwarves. The traditional earmarks are played with, though: both are pretty advanced but the Dark Elves' tech is visibly "spacey" (starships, laser guns, grenades) while Asgardian tech looks medieval, and the "dwarves" have fancier clothes (by virtue of wearing colors other than black).
- The 2012 film adaptation of The Hobbit plays up the animosity between elves and dwarves. Thorin hates elves because they wouldn't help fight off Smaug when he came to the Lonely Mountain.
I don't like green food... Have they got any chips?
- Played for Laughs in one scene in Rivendell. The mostly dwarven party is invited into Rivendell for food and rest, but they quickly find to their displeasure that elven cuisine mostly consists of salads and green food. Compounded by one of the dwarves' reactions:
- In some variations of tradition The Fair Folk are beautiful but erratic and dangerous possessing strange powers of enchantment. Mortals are more ordinary and depend on tools and organization.
- The Dökkálfar and Ljósálfar of Norse mythology represent a concept of light versus dark. Though whether or not both sides are elfs, or if the Dökkálfar are actually dwarfs is debated, but the idea still fits this trope either way.
- You also have the war of the Aesir and the Vanir. The former generally described as gods of war (dwarves), and the latter as gods of nature (elves). Freyr, one of the Vanir, was even the ruler of the Norse alfar.
- Both played straight and subverted in the Fighting Fantasy gamebooks, depending on where exactly you go in the world of Titan. It's noted that many dwarves and elves really don't get along, but it tends to be more due to misunderstanding rather than outright antipathy. The subversion comes when canon also notes that there have been several notable adventuring team-ups between elves and dwarves, and both races have a certain respect for the love the other has for nature/the earth. The Zagor Chronicles series of standalone novels further fleshes out this trope when the dwarf Kagand explains to the dwarf Stubble (who comes from another world) that, while dwarves and elves have slain enough of each other in wars over the centuries, they actually live in harmony in places like Darkwood. This is a mild form of culture shock to Stubble, as the dwarves and elves on his own world have a deep-rooted dislike that goes back centuries.
- Older Than Television: H. G. Wells' 1895 The Time Machine features the Morlocks (below ground, industrious) and the Eloi (above ground, beautiful, musical), two (sub?)-species of humanity, in the year 802701. Unlike the more common form of this trope, however, the Eloi are neither highly advanced nor highly intelligent. Indeed, they're little more than the Morlocks's purebred humanoid cattle.
- Stanislaw Lem's His Master's Voice has the Hard on Soft Science conflict between the "dwarfs" (mathematicians, engineers) and the "elves" (psychologists, mostly).
- Although they hadn't come to blows in a long time, Elves and Dwarves had a lot of distrust towards each other in The Lord of the Rings. It originated mostly from an ancient war between the dwarven city Nogrod and the elven kingdom Doriath which destroyed both nations; and also from a general severing of ties between all the races that made them much more isolated and thus suspicious of each other. For example, when the Elves first encountered the Petty-Dwarves, a smaller subspecies of Dwarves, they hunted them almost to extinction before they realised they were sapient. Character Development subverts this in the case of the elven Legolas and the dwarven Gimli, who both come to understand each other better and become Friendly Rivals, then Heterosexual Life-Partners.
Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings is also likely the source for this trope. Tolkien set many standards which have made their way into modern fantasy, especially after being further popularized by other pop culture phenomenon such as Dungeons & Dragons. Prior to Tolkien's work elves and dwarves were not usually seen as being distinctly separate kinds of beings in most mythology. Often they were synonymous with other fey creatures who inhabited either the woods or the water or mountains. Tolkien created different categories for these beings and made them more humanoid than they were previously in mythology.
Even in Middle-Earth the Elves and the Dwarves got along fairly well at times despite not always really understanding each other. Eregion and Khazad-dûm come to mind; the gate between them allowing entrance to the Dwarven kingdom opened to the word "friend" spoken in Elvish. It was apparently intended as primarily symbolic (or to keep out weather and animals), not as an actual obstacle.
- The Sword of Shannara is highly derivative of Tolkien (later books in the series are less so), but his elves and dwarves get along quite well and have for centuries, thank you very much. Also, Brooks' dwarves have a morbid fear of being underground, to the extent that a given a choice between sleeping outside in the rain and sleeping in a cozy, dry cave, the typical dwarf is going to wake up wet.
- In Katherine Kerr's Deverry novels, many of the Mountain Folk (dwarves) believe the Westfolk (elves) are all thieves, and enchant their weaponry to glow when they come into contact with elves (this is how it's revealed the main character is a Half-Human Hybrid). Any antipathy the Westfolk have to the dwarves is mostly a reaction to this attitude.
- In the Timothy Zahn book The Green And The Gray the two races, Greens and Grays, are basically Elves and Dwarves respectively and yes, they've been at war for centuries.
- Played with in three of the worlds from The Death Gate Cycle. In Arianus, the Elves are The Empire and the Dwarves are an oppressed slave race that serves them; in Pryan, the Dwarves generally don't like anybody, but there doesn't seem to be any particular animosity between them and the elves; in Chelestra, the two races are shown to be staunch allies who may indulge in mockery of each other but have great respect for each others' abilities. In Abarrach, both races had been wiped out by the toxic atmosphere over a century before the story begins, rendering whatever relationship the two races may have had moot.
- The The Next Generation Expanded Universe novels A Time To Love and A Time To Hate feature two rival alien races called the Dorset and the Bader. The Dorset are a race of tall, thin artists; the Bader are stocky builders and engineers.
- Also in the Star Trek Novel Verse, the rivalry between Huanni and their offshoot race the Falorians. Huanni are graceful and ethereal as well as emotionally expressive, Falorians are stockier, stoic, disciplined and historically a labour class.
- Played for all it's worth in The First Dwarf King. The elves and dwarves of Herezar would sooner kill each other than look at each other.
- The Elves and Dwarves in the Inheritance Cycle add another twist to this: the Elves are generally very scientific, while the Dwarves are religious. Note that this has nothing to do with technology: the series is strictly "swords & sorcery." But for example, the Dwarves worship Stone, believing that they came from it and return to it in death, and one of their priests mentions why they know that stone is alive: coral reefs, which grow over the decades. The hero is suitably impressed with this, until he meets the agnostic Elves who posit that there is no evidence supporting any gods or supernatural beings, and that the coral are just the accumulation of billions of tiny dead sea creature fossils.
- In a series set technologically in the Medieval era, magic is the only way to properly study the world. A particularly meticulous king of a small nation is overjoyed to have a few of rebels' mages at his beck and call, being suddenly able to really study the world in detail.
- Later events do suggest that the Elves' condescending attitude is grossly misguided, on the other hand. Despite being a much older culture and considering humans primitive, comparing the elvish lands with human indicates that the Elves are actually the most scientifically backwards species and make up for it through innate magical powers, while Eragon observes a being who can be very easily interpreted to be one of the Dwarven gods appearing to bless their new king, which rather dashes the notion that no evidence supports supernatural beings existing.
- In Adrian Tchaikovsky's Shadows of the Apt series there is considerable tension between the fading, magically oriented Inapt races and the rising, technologically oriented Apt ones, especially between the Moth-kinden and the short, stocky Beetle-kinden.
- Subverted in a short story from Dragon, in which a dwarf community built under a gigantic tree is revealed to be even more spiritually attuned to the tree than the elves who worship it on the surface. The dwarves tend its roots with loving care, and are grateful to it for holding the roof together and guiding them to water. When it gets sick, the elves just worry about what its illness forebodes; the practical-minded dwarves seek out and correct the problem with the tree's taproot.
- Randy Waterhouse in Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson divides the world into Elves (ingenious, calculating and highly motivated people, like his business partner Avi), Dwarves (hard-working "plodders," like himself), and Men (everyone else outside the realm of nerds that he inhabits).
- Subversion of this in R.A. Salvatore's The Cleric Quintet and some of his later Drizzt novels, which feature Pikel, a rather eccentric dwarf (he dyes his beard bright green) whose ambition in life is to become a druid (to the sheer horror of both the elven monks he goes to for training and his brother Ivan, who is the epitome of everything blunt, earthy, and dwarvish). However, Pikel's affinity for nature and his druidic abilities eventually end up creating quite a rapport between certain dwarven and elven settlements.
- Drizzt himself is a subversion as a dark elf who befriends a dwarf chieftain, Bruenor Battlehammer.
- In the Discworld book Soul Music, Glod the Dwarf acts a bit hostile to Imp at first when he thinks he might be elvish.
- Also in Lords and Ladies, it is mentioned that dwarves and trolls would kill an elf on sight, but for a good reason. Discworld elves are somewhere between Nazis with magic and demons with good PR.
- Dwarves and trolls are hereditary enemies. Dwarves mine, which involves smashing rocks to get valuable minerals out of them, and trolls are basically animate rocks with valuable minerals in. This despite the fact that both races are Stout.
- This runs all through the Green-Sky Trilogy, despite the fact that the Kindar (willowy, pale, overly-diplomatic, tree-dwelling vegetarians) and Erdlings (stocky, Ambiguously Brown, plain-spoken, underground-dwelling hunters) are simply two separate human cultures.
- Essentially there in Julian May's Saga of the Exiles with the Tanu and Firvulag. Tanu are tall and beautiful, while the normal Firvulag is short and stocky, although their heroes can be equal or better than the Tanu.
- In Sevenwaters Trilogy the Sevenwaters clan are in touch with nature and nature spirits, while the Northwoods are stodgy folk, and more settled in mentality.
- The Billibub Baddings books, which features a dwarf from a Standard Fantasy Setting being stranded in Chicago in the late 1920s, alludes to and lightly parodies the rivalry between elves and dwarves — though the dwarf protagonist certainly doesn't hate elves (especially not the women!), and in fact reveals that in their world, the rivalry originally started over a recipe for malt beer.
- A Song of Ice and Fire has the Children of the Forest and the Race of Men. Men of Westeros can also be divided between the sly and elegant Southrons, mostly descendant of the Andals, and the straight talking and often brutal Grim Up North Northmen, descended of the First Men that first warred the Children. Ironically, the cultured, urbane, "advanced" Free Cities and the "barbarous" Proud Warrior Race Dothraki coexist relatively well. The Dothraki show up and rattle their spears, and the Free Cities bribe them to go away because it's cheaper than hiring mercenaries to run them off. Diplomatic relations are strong enough that Illyrio can invite Khal Drogo and seemingly his entire khalasar over to discuss a marriage pact with few or no problems.
- In the Corum series, the Vadhagh are extremely elf-like, and are eventually just identifed as elves. Their ancient enemies, the Nahdragh, are barely mentioned, but the one Nahdragh who does appear, is described as stocky, wearing furs and with a vaguely Neanderthal-like appearance.
- In Dwarves by German author Markus Heitz, the dwarves really hate the elves for seemingly annihilating the fifthling kingdom before the main storyline, but the elves never actually had a part in the genocide - the culprits were the elves' Always Chaotic Evil counterparts, the alfs, and the elves oppose the forces of the Perished Land as much as the dwarves do. It ends up all for naught by the third volume when a hothead dwarf declares himself High King and launches a genocidal war against the elves which ends with 37 elves left in the entire world. Nice going, you stunted jerks.
Live Action TV
- The Time War in Doctor Who between the Time Lords and the Daleks. The Time Lords ruled the universe in the past and possessed the most advanced of all possible technology, but were (with the exception of the Doctor) almost always portrayed as arrogant, and abided by a strict code of non-interference and by the time of the Time War has been reduced into a single planet, Gallifrey, where the Lords spent most of their time being dusty old senators in constant political Machiavellian infighting rather than, you know, using their ancient elegant supertech to actually rule all of cosmic order (Elves). On the other hand, there are the Daleks, the Dwarves to Time Lords' Elves. Previously, as any Classic who fan would attest, they are in their most basic, utilitarian, not-so-stylish, saltshakers with plunger arms, who could not even climb up stairs. But their drive to EXTERMINATE anything in their path won't let such stairs stand in their way ("Daleks don't climb stairs. They level the building"). Unlike the Time Lords' TARDIS technology which was basically flying in your own pocket universe throughout space and time, Dalek technology was always portrayed as utilitarian, metallic and bulky, yet they get the job done in combatting the Time Lords in their own turf (that is, throughout the entirety of space and time) and are extremely devastating, and despite their ugly technology, they almost won the Time War with sheer firepower and numbers.
- At one point the Daleks are shown in conflict with the Movellans, who are tall beautiful androids. However the Movellans ended up winning the war with a virus.
- Before this was the conflict between the Daleks and the Thals, who are tall blonde humanoids. However "Genesis of the Daleks" shows that during the war that created the Daleks the Kaleds and Thals were Not So Different.
- The Drahvins and the Rills from Galaxy 4 also show this, with a subversion of Beauty Equals Goodness. The Drahvins are blond, beautiful women but most are just cloned slaves and their officers are violent imperialists. The Rills are hideous creatures who communicate telepathically and breathe ammonia but turn out to be peaceful explorers. The Drahvins hate the Rills because of their appearance, to the extent they refuse an alliance that could allow both of them to escape a doomed planet, instead trying to steal the Rill ship.
- Star Trek:
- "The Cloud Minders" had graceful and scholarly humanoids living in a literal flying city, while brutish and mentally limited miners dug tunnels with simple hand tools underground. It's later revealed that the two are actually the same species, but the miners are exposed to a mineral that affects the brain.
- In the episode "Journey to Babel", Vulcans and Tellarites have a classic elf-dwarf relationship, with Sarek of Vulcan a rather witty Legolas and Gav the Tellarite a doomed variant of Gimli.
- Bajorans and Cardassians have a sort of dark elf/drow and dark dwarf enmity going on.
- The long-standing rivalry between the haughty, arrogant but unfailingly cautious Romulans and the Proud Warrior Race Guy Klingons.
- The Federation versus the Borg. The Federation is enlightened, utopian, and based on the principles of personal freedom and self-determination. Their technology is elegant, aesthetically pleasing, and geared largely toward improving quality of life. The Borg are single-mindedly dedicated to forcing the entire universe to conform to their ideal of "perfection," which is total submission to a plague-like rapacious Hive Mind. Their technology is ugly, industrial, but functional; they have no real sense of aesthetics or artistic creativity, and no purpose other than to consume and expand.
- In Star Trek: Enterprise the Vulcans and Andorians have a long-standing Space Cold War-style rivalry. The Vulcans of this era are a haughty Proud Scholar Race, while the Andorians are a Hot-Blooded Proud Soldier Race with a severely regimented society and who often live underground due to the harsh conditions of their homeworld. The humans of the United Earth end up bringing them together, and together with the Tellarites they end up as founding members of the Federation.
- Babylon 5:
- Minbari are elegant, traditional, and warriorlike fighting in a heroic fashion. Humans are practical, mechanistic, and soldierlike fighting in a militaristic fashion.
- Meanwhile the Centauri are decadent, pompous,and huge consumers of art and culture, and the Narn are brutal, Hot-Blooded, and weapon mongerers. It is indicated that the Centauri made them that way when they enslaved the Narn, however. Finding common ground to settle their differences is a major background plot for much of the show, culminating in them forming a temporary alliance along with the Minbari and the League of Nonaligned Worlds to help Sheridan liberate Earth from Clark's dictatorship.
- Played absolutely straight in the Warhammer fantasy battle game. The Elves and Dwarfs have a long-standing mutual hatred for each other from the War of Vengeancenote from long ago. The Elves are magic-wielding Imperialists, while the Dwarfs miner-industrialists with relatively advanced technology (including firearms, cannons, and steam-punk helicopters). The conflict resulted because of the Dark Elves framing the elves for attacking a Dwarfen caravan, and the High Elven king at the time being a complete moron who had a Dwarfen emissary shaved, a dire insult to Dwarfs. So in a world where the forces of Chaos constantly threaten to overcome the world, naturally they went to war against each other. At the end of the war, several thousand on both sides were dead, the elven king was killed by the dwarves, etc. The Elves won't forgive the Dwarfs because they won't return his crown, and the Dwarfs won't forgive the Elves because Dwarfs keep a great big book where they write down every act anyone's ever done to annoy them, just to make sure they don't stop being mad about it. Incidentally, they have stated that they will return the crown if the Elves pay reparations for the original insult and the expenses involved in the multi-generation war to collect.
- It's Eldar Vs Humans on a galactic, genocidal scale in Warhammer 40,000, with the Imperium of Man squarely filling the dwarves' shoes. Though in this case, it's less about swords and bows vs axes and hammers than it is starcannons and hovertanks vs chainswords, battle cannons and heavy, tracked monstrosities.
- Though the 40k universe did have it's version of dwarves early on, the Squats. It didn't end well for them. Interestingly enough, Squats and Eldar repeated the dwarf-elf grudge from Warhammer Fantasy, after the Eldar declined to help in the defence against an Ork invasion.
- Also, 40K is pretty much everybody VS everybody else (including your own side) on a permament basis.
- Dungeons & Dragons:
- Since both dwarves and elves are standard hero races, they tend to be on decent terms, though usually not seeing eye to eye on much (typically more like eye to groin). The 3rd edition rulebook mentions that while dwarves and elves don't always get along, if one gets attacked the other will be the first to help them. Much like brothers. This was less the case in the 1st Edition, where the table for racial relations explicitly noted that dwarves and elves had a noted antipathy towards one another. Humans generally tended to be regarded neutrally by all the demihuman races.
- Eberron has a really weird version of this between the halflings of the Talenta Plains and the elves of Valenar. Thing is, it's the halflings standing in for the elves in this trope - primitive, spiritual, attuned to nature, and generally cleaving to the Magical Native American idea, only they ride dinosaurs. The Valenar elves, in turn, stand in for the dwarves, being accurately described as land-based Vikings. The actual dwarves of the setting are geographically removed from both races and thus are neutral towards both.
- This trope was consciously averted in Pathfinder. Elves actually are really good neighbors with Dwarfs in this setting due to both being fairly isolationist. According to one sourcebook this is because "good fences make good neighbors". Lead designer James Jacobs explained that it's because Elves vs. Dwarves is a prominent trope in Forgotten Realms, and Paizo wanted to avoid comparisons between the two settings.
- Apparently played straight as of the Advanced Race Guide, which includes character options for both elves and dwarves which divide up their favored enemy bonuses between the standard orcs...and each other, thanks to the usual ancient grudge. And according to the "Ask Merisiel" thread, the Iconic Rogue, Merisiel Sillvari, finds Lem's jokes about dwarves hilarious.
- In The Witcher: Game of Imagination backstory, the first thing elves did after landing on the Continent was declaring dwarves not worth living and starting a genocidal war with them. This equally maimed both sides and paved the road for being conquered by humans. Both races still hold grudges against each other. Dwarves also like to remind everyone how elves started talking about "us, older races" only after humanity decided that there was no room for elves.
- In the Iron Kingdoms setting (where WARMACHINE and HORDES are set), the highly-industrialized titular Iron Kingdoms (the WARMACHINE factions) often find themselves at odds with the much more naturalistic Primal Powers (the HORDES factions). Of course, there's plenty of infighting among the Iron Kingdoms and the Primal Powers as well. Notably, this trait is actually averted by the setting's actual elves and dwarves, as the elves are xenophobes and friendly with no one else but particularly hate the skorne and humans, and the dwarves, while isolationist, are on generally friendly terms with all the other races.
- The Jadeborn (with a hint of elfish traits) and The Fair Folk in Exalted don't exactly meet often enough to develop an attitude about it, but their very natures are inimical to each other — the industrious, inventive Jadeborn being about as close as you can get to representations of Creation and Order without being an Earth elemental, and the alien Fair Folk being a tiny piece of Primordial Chaos that for whatever reason decided to pretend to be sentient and go around Mind Raping people.
Within the Jadeborn society, the Artisan Caste (the most elf-looking) are typically prejudiced against the Worker and Warrior Castes, regarding the regulars as uncouth and brutish and the Enlightened ones as freaks and upstarts, while the other two Castes deride the Artisans as stuck-up, arrogant and a little bit crazy.
- Played straight in Palladium Fantasy Role Playing Game, with the Elven and Dwarven Empires having recently fought a war that lasted over 10 thousand years. As a consequence of the war humans now dominate the world and Dwarves swore off magic.
- In Traveller the Darrians and the Sword Worlders could fit as elves and dwarves respectively.
- In Banestorm the Elves and Dwarves play more or less to type.
- In The Dark Eye, elves and dwarves have some issues, (see that article for a more detailed list).
- In 13th Age, the elves and dwarves get along now (except for the drow), but there was a war long in the past that caused the three elven subraces to split in the first place.
- The gods of Asgard (Elves) vs. the Nibelungs (Dwarves) but also the giants (Fasolt and Fafner) in The Ring of the Nibelung by Richard Wagner. Alberich in particular is often interpreted as an embodyment of Capitalism, out to depose the old, feudal elites. The Gods are sometimes referred to as Light Elves, though ironically enough the Nibelung Dwarves are sometimes referred to as black elves. The name of the Nibelung, Alberich, even roughly means Elf King. This is from Norse Mythology, where there wasn't really a clear divide between the Black Elves and Dwarves.
- The people in Belle Reve (Elves) and New Orleans (Dwarves) in A Streetcar Named Desire.
- In Knights of the Old Republic, the Echani and the Mandalorians. Both are a form of Proud Warrior Race Guy, but they go about it in different ways. Echani are famous for their graceful combat and finely crafted light armor and weapons, whereas the Mandalorians are well known for their powerful heavy armor and fondness for big, heavy, sturdy weapons. One memorable conversation with a Mandalorian mercenary on Manaan has him pegging the Echani as "Fey dancers wielding flimsy toy weapons not suitable for mandalorian children." The Echani are also regarded by many fans as physically elf-like for their lithe bodies and their features.
- In Mabinogi, the elves and giants are at war. You never see any actual raiding, aside from reminiscences, but any elf or elf-aligned human in the giant village will be attacked on sight by the guards, and vice versa. There is also an option toggle that will cause any character of the opposing race with the same option enabled to be targeted and attacked like a monster. However, the elven healer Atrata and the giant blacksmith Taunes are old friends, suggesting that the war is not built-in.
- Of course, Mabinogi giants are basically dwarves in every respect except for actually being short.
- Scribblenauts has a classic example. While an ordinary "Elf" is no trouble, try putting a "Wood Elf" and a "Dwarf" next to each other. If both unarmed, the dwarf panics and is slain by the elf. If both equally armed, the dwarf will defeat the wood elf.
- The Elder Scrolls
- In the series backstory, there did exist a race of "Dwarves", though this was a archeological misnomer for the Dwemer, who were actually a sub-race of Mer (Elves). Despite this, they did play the trope straight by warring with just about every other race of Mer they came into contact with. The Dwemer were a highly technologically advanced race, and were extreme Naytheists who believed that none of the setting's "divine" beings were truly gods worth worshiping. As each of the other races of Mer were highly religious and worshiped a variety of divine entities, this was the most common cause of conflict. Most famously, the Dwemer warred with the Chimer (ancestors of the modern Dunmer or 'Dark Elves') in what is now modern Morrowind. The Chimer were hardcore worshipers of what they called the three "good" Daedra and considered much of what the Dwemer did as blasphemy. While the two races did form an Enemy Mine alliance when the invading Nords threatened Morrowind, it broke down when the Chimer learned that the Dwemer had discovered the Heart of Lorkhan (the "dead" creator god of the mortal world) and planned to tap into its power. The Chimer assaulted the Red Mountain stronghold of the Dwemer and, though there are many versions of what exactly happened next, the Dwemer disappeared from all known planes of existence. This plays a major part in the story of Morrowind thousands of years later.
- The Dwemer of Skyrim also played this trope straight when it came the Falmer (Snow Elves). When the Atmorans, ancestors of the Nords, invaded Skyrim from the frozen continent of Atmora, they nearly drove the Falmer to extinction. Some of the Falmer turned to their Dwemer cousins for refuge. However, the Dwemer betrayed and enslaved the Falmer, turning them into blind, feral, and barely sapient monstrosities little better than goblins. They play a role in several side quest lines in Skyrim.
- In Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura, Dwarves and Elves don't particularly understand each other, but they aren't enemies... except that this misunderstanding was exploited by the Dark Elves, who got the Dwarves to banish one of their own clans for the humans' destruction of an "elven" forest. Culminates in a rather interesting (which has several opportunities to never be seen) conversation between Loghaire Thunder Stone (king of the dwarves) and Z'an Al'urin (a True Neutral Dark Elf), which humbles Loghaire but-quick.
- The elves and dwarves (and gnomes) of Majesty won't settle in your kingdom if any of the other races are present. While the dwarves here are depicted as typical 'gruff engineers' the elves are far from mystical, magical, or wise, but are instead a bunch of hedonistic layabouts who bring vice to your city in the form of gambling halls and elven lounges. On the plus side, elves effectively double your income.
- Subverted in one mission in the expansion pack, when you find yourself assisting refugees from a war between the elves and the Greater Gorgons. If you last long enough, the second wave of reinforcements is a large party of dwarves.
- Stonekeep features dwarves who are prejudiced against elves. And goblins. And trolls. And fairies. And various other green-skinned races. And dwarves who have been dishonored. Despite all this, the dwarves are not unlikeable, probably because they have no problems with humans whatsoever. Dwarves make up the majority of your traveling companions early in the game, and one does nothing to hide his intolerance of party members from the above races.
- The story of Faxanadu revolved around Elves vs. Dwarves, although it's because the dwarves had gone psycho and turned into demons.
- In Overlord, it turns out that - a short while before your Awakening - the Dwarves and Elves fought a war of extinction. The Dwarves won, carting away the most valued treasure of the Elves, as well as several cartloads of elven slaves to work in their mines, and leaving the Elvish forest of Evernight to the mournful whispers of the ghosts. If you are so inclined, you can help the Elves regain their freedom, and their treasure... or you could kill them all and keep the treasure to yourself. Canonically the Overlord saves the Elves from extinction since they're still around in the sequel while the Dwarves are presumably devastated by the magical Cataclysm that turned the lands of the first game into a magical wasteland. The prequel Overlord: Dark Legend has Lord Gromgard, the previous Overlord instigate a war between the Elves and Dwarves by killing their leaders and framing the other side for it.
- Subverted in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, when the Gorons seem to hate the Hylians, but actually the Gorons were just ashamed for having problems with an evil curse on their leader, which is why they kept the Hylians away from their territory.
- Dragon's Crown doesn't feature much animosity between its Dwarf and Elf characters or their races. A piece of official artwork, though, shows the two going at it...while playing video games.◊
- In Class Of Heroes, Elves and Dwarves don't get along with each other, thus making it harder for them to gain affinity points when characters of both races are in the same party.
- Dragon Age:
- Awakening has this a bit, with Oghren and Sigrun pranking around uptight Dalish elf Velanna.
- Much more directly lampshaded, and laughably subverted, when Oghren is in the party when you recruit Zevran:
Oghren: We're taking the elf?! Oh, fine, fine. I see standards are just falling down all over the place.Zevran: I see. Are we now supposed to engage in some manner of archetypal dwarf-elf banter, my friend?Oghren: Nah.
- In Dragon Age II, Varric and Fenris are relatively cordial to each other. While Varric is one of the few party members that remains on good terms with everybody, Fenris is generally antisocial and quite antagonistic towards the other members, particularly the mages (or at least the ones that aren't Hawkes). Varric adores Merrill, the party's other elf, nicknaming her "Daisy" and treating her like a little sister.
- The relative lack of animosity between the two races probably has to do with the fact that they never really interact much. The elves are too busy recovering their history and avoiding being killed by the humans, and the dwarves are too busy recovering their history and avoiding being killed by the darkspawn...and themselves.
- Less literally, the trope is played straight with the rough-around-the-edges Fereldens and the foppish Orleasians, being Fantasy Counterpart Cultures of Britain and France, respectively.
- The Dragon Age: Inquisition Trespasser DLC. reveals that The Evanuris, the Dalish Jerkass Gods, waged war against the Titans, Genius Loci that live within Deep Roads, at one point. Since the Titans are connected to (and hinted at being) The Stone that Dwarves revere and were created from, Bioware basically said this trope was the case in ancient times.
- To a degree in Kingdom of Loathing; as part of a quest you can start and stop a war between the nature-loving hippies and the beer-drinking frat boys.
- Heroes of Might and Magic:
- Averted in the first three games, where dwarves and elves are part of the same faction.
- Played straight in the fourth game, where the Dwarf Lord Ufretin has severed the aforementioned alliance between elves and dwarves, and allied his people with the Academy (Order) faction instead, while the elves formed (or remained in) their own Nature faction; incidentally, Order and Nature are opposed to each other.
- Played straight-ish in Heroes of Might and Magic 5, where dwarves war against dark elves.
- The dark elves and dark dwarves of the old verse were unfriendly to each other. This may have more to do with the consequences of one race (the Elves) being enthusiastic traders and the other being xenophobic allies/servants of the Earth Elementals than this trope, however (certainly, the dark elves can only barely be said to fit the Elven archetype used in this trope).
- Even though Thief has humans as the only civilized race, aspects of this trope show up in the rivalry between The Hammerites, whose religion embodies the concepts of order, technology and civilization, and the paganistic worshippers of The Trickster, whose religion embodies chaos, nature and magic.
- Averted in Popful Mail with elven bomb-maker Slick and dwarven artisan Glug, who are the best of friends.
- The Elves, who represent the element of Life, and Dwarves, who worship the element of Earth, typically begin with poor relations in Lords Of Magic.
- While both factions in Rift have elves, it's the faction that doesn't have dwarves in which this rivalry gets obviously played out: The Kelari elves are not on the best of terms with the bahmi (the imposing, blue-skinned, and decidedly non-dwarven stouts of the Defiant faction).
- While not necessarily out and out antagonistic towards one another (unless you decide to instigate it), this can crop up in Dwarf Fortress. For the most part, your dwarfs are at least on good enough terms with elven civilisations for mutual trade (they can be useful for supplying cloth, training weaponry and tamed exotic animals, though, other than that, their wares are generally of subpar quality). That said, the elves will insult your dwarfs at any available opportunity, and will be apalled if you so much as try to trade them wooden goods, never mind that the grand majority of their weaponry, armours and crafts are wooden.note As such, save for one or two exceptions, elves are not the most popular race in the Dwarf Fortress community.
- There's a notable aversion in the form of Cacame Awemedinade, who somehow became the dwarven king despite being an elf. He's the only elf the Dwarf Fortress community holds in high regard, not least because he once killed a dragon singlehandedly.
- It helps that he had a hatred for his own species that surpasses the hatred most Dwarves have for Elves. Cumulatively.
- There's a notable aversion in the form of Cacame Awemedinade, who somehow became the dwarven king despite being an elf. He's the only elf the Dwarf Fortress community holds in high regard, not least because he once killed a dragon singlehandedly.
- Averted in the Warcraft games.
- In Warcraft II and III, high elves and Bronzebeard dwarves went along well, and Wildhammer dwarves were very good friends with the former. Dwarves in general don't seem to have any problem with night elves, and if they are enemies of the blood elves it's only because the latter joined the Horde (their rival faction) or the Burning Legion (who are enemies to everybody).
- There are some individual examples, however. Tarenar Sunstrike and Gidwin Goldbraids in World of Warcraft's Eastern Plaguelands have a rivalry very reminiscent of Gimli and Legolas. Likewise, a night elf and dwarf in one of the Warcraft: Legends manga were verbally at each other's throats all the time.
- The Alliance's ambassador to the blood elves (before they joined the Horde) was a dwarf, which you would think was an intentional aversion of this trope. Turns out, he was investigating things where he didn't belong and handing off blueprints of arcane sanctums to the night elves hiding in the area.
- There is a bit of this trope in Cataclysm, with the dwarven Explorer's League coming to blows with the elven Reliquary, course they are on opposite factions so its to be expected.
- Early on the rivalry between the Jungle Trolls and the Forsaken was played up, particularly in the manual. However later it got dropped without much explanation. There seems to be a minor animosity between Blood Elves and Darkspear Trolls, which stems from both races being ancestral enemies and with the Blood Elves joining the Horde, this is the first time they ever have to be allies.
- Lacking any actual elves in the setting and with the dwarves virtually extinct as of the first game, Guild Wars 2 has an excellent parallel in the conflict between the ancient, civilized, beautiful, magically gifted humans and the brutal, industrious, and militaristic Charr, where the humans are in serious decline and are in very real danger of extinction and the Charr are thriving. They're reluctant and wary allies in the game, courtesy of the de facto ruler of the Charr being unusually progressive and far-sighted (who also wants the traditional marker of the true leader of the Charr, which the humans stole centuries back), while the human queen has more than enough trouble on her hands without the Charr.
- Lampshaded by descriptions of items in Dungeons of Dredmor, where there was such a war outside the dungeon.
- The Witcher is all over the place with this trope. Elves and dwarves don't like each other at all. However, both elves and dwarves are members of the local Anti-Human Alliance called the Scoia'tael. However, there are several dwarves who don't like the Scoia'tael (who, for all their high-sounding rhetoric, are most likely "freedom fighters" In-Name-Only) and point out that the elves didn't stop being condescending and hateful towards dwarves until human supremacy was already a fact and that the Scoia'tael will always put elves before dwarves. Elves, on the other hand, dislike dwarves mostly because they have had a far easier time being accepted into human society and have managed to preserve much more of their culture and traditions.
- While not played straight in the official games, the Hyrule: Total War mod of Medieval II: Total War has the graceful and supremacist Zora versus the stout and warlike Gorons. They're explicitly rival factions and hence both have wiping the other race out as a win-condition.
- The backstory of the Disciples series has this start with a misunderstanding. When Bethrezen's Legions of the Damned first burst onto the surface of Nevendaar, they happen to come out in the elven woods, setting them on fire. The elves flee en masse towards higher ground, which is also where the Mountain Clans are located. Misinterpreting the massive rout as an invasion, the dwarves attack the "invaders", slaughtering many elves. The elven gods Gallean and Solonielle go to the dwarven god Wotan and demand that he punish his children for this. Outraged, Wotan kills Gallean (he gets better later, but the event also results in Solonielle becoming the fleshless goddess Mortis). This starts the feud. Then, during the elven campaign, a young oracle, possessed by Gallean (who may have gone insane by this point) urges the Elven Alliance to attack the Mountain Clans. The elves win and force the Clans back under their mountain. Then the oracle kills the dwarven queen for no good reason.
- In Drowtales, the Light and Dark elves were no longer able to survive on the surface and fled into the depths of their world. There they were faced with hordes and entire cities of dwarves who were none to happy about these new refugees and a war broke out... Which the dwarves lost entirely, whole cities slaughtered and their race pushed back to the barely habitable edges of the underworld. Now they are viewed as a passing pest and nuisance by the elven races and almost all small fights with them end in a one sided massacre by the elves.
- 8-Bit Theater:
Black Mage: That must be a relief to you.Dwarves: We're to kill any Elves on sight without question. Which is fairly redundant, since any Dwarf would do that anyway. But a paycheck's a paycheck.
- The grudge is mostly explained as elves really, really disliking all the beards. Or, to be more specific, both races believe they rightfully own the Earth Orb. Notably not present in the game it's based on, however, which portrays the dwarves and elves as being friendly with each other.
- Keeping with the tone of the comic, the rivalry is turned Up to Eleven with both sides gladly committing genocide on the other. The two biggest Sociopathic Hero-protagonists do their part since Thief is an Elf and Black Mage... just enjoys destruction.
- It doesn't help that both species are portrayed as being highly xenophobic and Elves believe that all other forms of life (including some of the gods) were failed attempts at replicating their perfection.
- In Dominic Deegan, they have the Halflings and the Dwarves going at it, with the pretty Halflings having fruited beers while the ugly Dwarves have more generic beers. That is what's presented at the nature of their conflicts, at least in the modern day.
- The Order of the Stick features rather few elves and dwarves long enough for the two to meet — except for the party members. Durkon, a proudly stereotypical dwarf cleric, and Vaarsuvius, The Spock and Insufferable Genius wizard, constantly bicker but respect each others' abilities nonetheless, both being powerful spellcasters. The two have a little spat when V goes round the bend, but the two do apologize to each other later, both admitting that they were in the wrong.
- Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic presents: the dwarven humour.
- A certain Nodwick arc involves a war between the elves and the dwarves over possession of a certain artifact the dwarves claim was stolen from them two thousand years ago. It turns out to be a sword which will kill both races if one uses it on the other, which forces them to declare a truce.
- When Dwalin first appears in Irregular Webcomic! he initially says he can't help a party that includes Alryssa because of "the Five-Thoosand Year Groodge" between dwarves and Elves.
- In Le Donjon de Naheulbeuk (Dungeon of Naheulbeuk)), a French audio Affectionate Parody of tabletop RPGs and particularly Dungeons & Dragons, elves and dwarves famously can't get along. Each race takes its defining characteristics far, far beyond its limits, making the following more or less the norm:
The Elf: (who has fallen down a hole) Help me, I'm stuck!
The Dwarf: She says we can leave her behind.
The Elf: Get me out of here, it's slimy!
The Dwarf: She says she wants us to make rocks fall on her to put her out of her misery.
- In Tales of MU, a gnomish folk tale depicts elves and dwarves are the descendants of quarreling twin brothers, who grew into their current forms by attempting to emphasize their imagined differences.
- The debate continues even onto YouTube in a segment of D&D PHB PSA. Elves, for those not in the know, cause cancer, and have tiny penises. Especially the women.
- In Monster Girl Encyclopedia, it was Fantastic Racism in era of previous overlords. Elves consider humans, dwarves and any monsters to be lowly creatures and loathe to make contact with them, so they rarely get far from their Hidden Elf Village. Dwarves feel insulted by this attitude and hate them back. Today, when many of elves and dwarves are succubi, they still tend to snipe at each other and fight over men. For some reason, succubi elves and dwarves usually target same men. Fortunatly, their "fighting" consists mostly of...snuggling up against the man, pinching him between them.
- Similarly to Naheulbeuk, Reflets d'Acide has elven bard Enoriel and dwarf master Zarakaï constantly arguing, typically through Snark-to-Snark Combat.
- Out of Context D&D Quotes, a blog collecting, well, out of context D&D quotes, had this utterly hilarious dialogue between a haughty elf and a Deadpan Snarker dwarf.
- In The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy episode "Here There Be Dwarves!", the plot revolves around a war between tree-dwelling Elves (a parody of the Keebler Elves) and Dwarves over who got what rights to sell food. The Elves, of course, got cookies, while the Dwarves get mushrooms, and have regretted it ever since. In the end, they compromise and make mushroom cookies.
- "They taste like my cat!"
- There is definitely an undercurrent of this in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, between the unicorns (tend to be educated, higher class and have telekinesis to handle delicate tasks) and the earth ponies (strong, hard-working and with a "connection to the Earth"). Among the mane six characters, two of the character foil pairs follow this dynamic, with the dainty Rarity against down-to-Earth Applejack, and the logical Twilight Sparkle against the Cloud Cuckoolander Pinkie Pie.
- This was also the point of a stage play, which brought the pegasus class (agile, high-spirited, and able to handle high-altitude activity) into the act.
- The Theme Park Versions of the nations considered to be the principal founders of the European Union: France and Germany, respectively Elves and Dwarves. France is the byword for European High Culture, Haute Couture Fashion, Aristocracy, Luxury and anything that could be crammed in the term Fancy, whether it be its unrivalled fine cuisine, its Louvre museum, its many contributions to modern literary drama and the many sophisticated fancy terms in the English language, or the tropes on how Everything Sounds Sexier in French, and so on. However, they are also stereotyped as annoyingly arrogant and pathetic in physical combat (though they had their own share of badasses e.g. the Magnificent Bastard Napoleon Bonaparte). Germany, on the other hand, is the byword for Pragmatism, as exemplified by the trope: Germanic Efficiency. Whether it be the Protestant work ethic, or the military virtues of Prussia, or their relentless dedication to science and the most cutting-edge of modern engineering, Germany has become the byword for Austerity, industriousness, and really awesome super-technology. Their industry, however, also resulted in their stereotype as stern and ruthless in their achievements (though examples from Dichter and Denker and the generally fun-loving region of Bavaria disprove the complete perception of German ruthlessness as more of a Theme Park Version). Even their drinks and religions are an Elf to Dwarf contrast: France is Catholic, renowned for Latin, Chateau Wine, High Art, beautiful cathedrals, fancy costumes and elaborate rites, while Germany loves the more boorish Beer (the archetypal Dwarven drink) and is more Protestant, hence their down-to-earth perception and their work ethic.
- In Ancient Greece, the rivalry between Sparta, which corresponds to Dwarves, and Athens, which corresponds to Elves. Spartans dedicated themselves on pragmatism, military toughness and direct application of force, with a Social Darwinist culture that encouraged its citizens to be hard soldiers at the cost of discarding philosophy or open trade, and their straightforwardness was what made them distinct from the other Greeks ("Laconic" was named after the home region of the Spartans). On the other hand, the Athenians were not so pragmatic. While their military power was much less famous than the Spartans (though still formidable) they were a cosmopolitan diplomatic culture that specialized in the arts, debate and philosophy, which allowed their culture to be spread far and wide and retain glorious influence in the modern world. Of course, this is more like the Theme Park Version of Ancient Greece, since the two had more of a Friendly Rivalry than the way they're usually portrayed nowadays, and came to each other's aid multiple times.
- Athens definitely had a strong military side and they had reasons to consider their military power as famous as that of the Spartans, notably through the largely Athenian victories of Marathon and Salamis in the Persian Wars. The main difference was that in the time after that Athens concentrated on the naval, diplomatic and economic sides of war. But the Athenians' growing military and economic power was what led the Spartans to decide to go to war against them in the Peloponesian War.
- The Dano-Norwegian union played the trope straight: Danes were sophisticated, urbanized, even had a university (well-educated to boot). Norwegians were noble savages, free children of nature, and naturally without any sophistication. They could get into the upper classes if they worked hard and played nice, though. On the top of it all, the Danes actually came to admire the Norwegians for this, especially during the eighteenth century. When Norway entered a union with Sweden, Norway kept the "dwarf" role, while Sweden took over the "elf" role from Denmark.
- In modern times, Norwegians are apt to do the trick on themselves: The less urbanized you are, the more "savage" you become. And there is always another country to suck up to.
- The North/South divide in the UK between the (now) poorer industrialised North and the richer South. With northerners seen as plain-spoken, down-to-earth and working class (or Northern Bastards) and southerners seen as posh, intelligent, educated, and generally upper or middle class (or Soft Southern Nancies). It is no coincidence that in many fantasy adaptations the Elves have posh, southern English accents, while those for Dwarves tends to be either northern (usually Yorkshire) or Scottish. And then you have the people living in the Midlands who are often counted in both camps...
- Anglo/French relations, in a nutshell. The industrial English/British have been at odds with the artistic, sophisticated French for almost a millennium.
- During The American Revolution, on the other hand, the colonists saw themselves as the tough, pragmatic and hardworking proletarian ones and the British as a bunch of posh decadent tea-drinking elitist snobs wasting their hard labor on art, (a stereotype which has never really gone away). Arguably, though, the American perception of the English is simply an internal British split carried over across the Atlantic—the early Americans were indeed mostly British, but they tended to come from the more provincial parts of the country (the same place where the Industrial Revolution was happening) and from Dissenting religious backgrounds (who were also the ones making industrialization happen): Puritans from East Anglia settled New England, Quakers and Presbyterians from The Midlands settled New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Delaware; and Northerners, Scots, and Ulstermen settled the backcountry. The "English" of Revolutionary imagination were really Londoners and South-Eastern Anglicans—who settled the Tidewater South and were the most obsessed with being "courtly" and aristocratic. Most of Britain regarded the South-East as "where the aristocrats were" (since they all had to go up to London half the year) with ponceyness and doubletalk (Elves) and themselves as practical, hardworking, and simple (Dwarves); these translated to the Tidewater South being Elves and everywhere else being Dwarves. Things have of course changed since then.
- Cats are seen as graceful, aloof, pretentious, and clever (Elves). Dogs are seen as strong, tough, loyal, hard-working, and finally: they dig (Dwarves).
- During the Cold War, the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The Americans won The Space Race (though not by much), had a high-tech but expensive volunteer army that relied heavily on precision weaponry (smart bombs, et al.), used information technology and a freedom of speech-based consumerist culture to spread their ideals far and wide, and were stereotyped as rich but selfish and decadent (Elves). The Soviets had more and much bigger nuclear weapons (to destroy more area in one blow and make up for inaccuracy) and a much larger standing army that would probably have overrun Western Europe (before the nukes came out, at least) through overwhelming force and numbers had World War III broken out, followed an ideology that extolled the working classes, and were stereotyped as poor and oppressed, but industrialized and hard-working (Dwarves).
- Averted however with modern Russia and the United States, which are more amicable towards each other but hardly friends. American's still place the same priority on highly advanced technology and view themselves as Elves. Russia however doesn't care about technology and have a society where arts, culture, and especially literature are Serious Business. In this light, Russia views themselves as the sophisticated Elves versus the crass building obsessed American Dwarves.
- On a smaller scale, see Korea (North is Dwarves, South is Elves). South Korea has a high tech industry (with a cyberpunkish Everything Is Online Internet), the national sport is Starcraft, and their army is one of the best equipped in Asia. The Northern economy (that isn't dependent on donations) is based in coal mining, the country is filled with mountains (so does South Korea, but theirs are less elevated), they pride themselves on strength, and the army is based on numbers. North Koreans are also usually shorter due to the constant famine.
- Modern humans and Neanderthals. The modern (anatomically) humans were tall, slender inventive beings with pointy chins and high foreheads. Compare this with the Neanderthals, who were shorter, stockier, with stronger arms and all around more masculine looking, and allegedly master craftsmen. In short, the Neanderthals are dwarves.
- Somewhat the point of the "The Main Difference Between Europe and the USA", a minor image macro meme displaying aspects of European and American cultural stereotypes, side-by-side, for comedic effect. Overlaps with Slobs vs. Snobs at times. By the way, guess which is which?
- Some 19th century pro-Confederate ("Lost Cause") authors depicted the The American Civil War as a conflict between a rough, industrial, barely civilized North mainly populated by recent German and Irish immigrants and a gentlemanly, sophisticated agrarian South inhabited by planters of English, Scottish and French extraction.
- Which was a bit ironic since in this image the Southern "cavaliers" were portrayed as more sophisticated because their elites were consumers of (mostly British and French) culture while looking down on most of American culture. Also consider where the most prestigious institutes of higher education before 1860 happened to be located and that most of the American writers and poets who achieved prominence in the ante-bellum United States and in the wider world (e. g. Benjamin Franklin, Washington Irving, James Fenimore Cooper, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Herman Melville) or worked in that era and are still remembered today are from the North. Even Edgar Allan Poe is from a border slave state that did not secede (Maryland), while John C. Calhoun was of Irish stock and Thomas Jefferson and Frederick Douglass were considered embarrassments by the propagandists of the "Lost Cause".
- Somewhat reinforced by the Generals who served during the war. Confederate Generals (at least during the first part of the war) made up for the South's material disadvantages by being better strategists. Later on, there are Union Generals Grant and Sherman, who are popularly remembered for their respective ability to sustain huge losses and willingness to engage in scorched-earth tactics.
- Actually this can be considered a subversion as it tends to support the image that the Southern elites' main activities were running slave plantations, politics (to further the planters' interests), and the military (the South was then and still is disproportionately represented in the U. S. officer corps). Which really resembles Sparta more than Athens, especially in the South becoming politically more and more monolithic and intransigent before the war.
- The aforementioned case of the American Civil War could also be inverted based on current political ideology: today, the conservative South with its emphasis on pre-industrial family values tend to distrust the more liberal, multicultural and cosmopolitan North.
- Standard Apple computers are simple, stylish, futuristic, and are better suited to exclusive artistic and other high-specs software, but cost around $1000 at minimum. Standard Windows computers, meanwhile, tend to be larger, utilitarian, more cheaply designed, versatile and capable of performing all mainstream computing needs while costing between a third and a fourth as much as an Apple.
- Although given that mucking about with dual-booting, OS emulation, and/or hackintoshing is inherently more complicated than buying a system off the shelf, it's probably more like Difficult but Awesome.
- This in itself would be a further Elves/Dwarves dynamic: those who buy hardware and software as is, and those that mod/build/tweak to their tastes.
- The actual people who purchase these tend to be in the same box, Apples tend to be purchased by Artists, while Windows PCs tend to be the preferred brand for pragmatic, results-oriented Businessmen and gamers.
- Though, in reality, their actual capabilities aren't that different from each other, and the fact that artists seem to buy more Apple products and everyday users go for Windows PC stems more from marketing. They're both just tools, after all.
- The "artists prefer Apple" trend comes largely from a difference in how Apple monitors worked, showing colors much closer to the final printed product (color filters that could be attached to the screen for other brands were available, but clunky). This hasn't really been relevant for some time, however.