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open What trope(s) would apply here? Radio
There's this popular series of French-Canadian humoristic sketches on the radio called "Les 2 Minutes du Peuple" (the People's 2 Minutes). In one sketch NASA scientists receive photos of Mars taken by a rover and they casually and nonchalantly discuss how the photos are poorly done, since a Martian has red eyes on one of the pictures (as if the flash reflected in his eyes). It takes a few seconds before they realize they actually have a picture of a Martian and that there's life on Mars and they freak out.
Then they call another scientist to announce him there's life on Mars, and the scientist looks completely unfazed and says something like "well they already found life on Earth and look where that got us".
openIf you're not sure a trope applies should you ask before adding it?
Or just add and if people disagree they can delete it?
Edited by Bootlebatopen BadAssLongCoat ROCEJ
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.BadassLongcoat
I deleted a rather detailed example listing the columbine shooters because I thought it was tasteless and I just noticed someone reverted it with nothing but "I don't agree with the deletion reason"
It also seems to be someone that's made several edits contesting things with that example despite not appearing to the one that actually added it.
Edited by CryptidProductionsopenDo tropes count if they're reverted?
Do we have a rule for whether or not a trope can stay on a page if its reverted later?
For example, let's say a character's child dies, so Outliving One's Offspring comes into play. Then the child is resurrected—does Outliving One's Offspring need to be cut, then?
openMay–December Romance and Comic Book Time
May–December Romance is a trope for couples with a significant age gap. But this can be a problem in comic books because they often use Comic-Book Time (a character gets frozen into a certain age for years or decades until growing up, if they ever do). Add to that immortal characters, human popsicles (like Captain America), characters who age slowly or not at all for in-story reasons (such as Wolverine, as his healing factor keeps him young), characters who use some tech or magic to stay young, etc; and it can get messy. The folder starts saying: "A big problem with this trope in Comic books is the dual issue of the confusion of the character's age with the age from when the comic was first published, and the continual retcons and universe changes that are common (particularly in the last several decades) which completely re-write character histories. In particular, a large number of heroes/villains are problematic for this trope, due to extended human lifespans, but not quite long enough to qualify as Really 700 Years Old or similar. Many of their pairings are more May Fly December Romance, but due to Comic-Book Time, it's hard to categorize them. Please be careful with adding entries here. "
I propose a simpler rule: keep only the examples where the age gap has been explicitly dealt with in-story.
open Ambiguous legal activities
A character is implied to be committing a serious crime or to have done so in the past, often to comedic effect.
openHumans are Bastards
If Humans Are Bastards is IUEO, then why doesn't the same apply to Humans Are Morons and Humans Are the Real Monsters?
openPage Length
Is there a way to tell how long Final Fantasy Record Keeper is? I'm unsure if the page needs splitting and how many to split it into.
openShould this page be moved? Videogame
We have a page for the 2004 PS2 Transformers game over at Transformers: Prelude to Energon. The thing is, though, "Prelude to Energon" was only a Working Title, the game was officially released as just "Transformers".
There's currently nothing at VideoGame.Transformers, so it could be moved there easily enough, but I wonder if that page would be better suited as a disambig page for all the other Transformers games.
Edited by PrimisopenRude troper
Tropers/Wintonian has a problem being rude/snarky and complaining. I've sent them a rudeness notifier but mod attention may be necessary.
Here (which doubles as edit-warring, since they're adding back what got deleted) their edit reason is "Troper who deleted this has no idea what note hes talking about"
Here their latest edit reason reads "Prior troper insists on projecting their ethics onto an Aesop that was never broken, so it is being removed". Before that, their addition (which was deleted) was Natter about "projecting ethics."
Here their edit reason reads "The statement doesnt make sense. How can the ‘original” be subtle or not when the original was where the meme originated? Quite a stupid mistake on the tropers part."
Here their edit reason reads "Removed the pathetic youtuber pandering, especially as the ‘statement’ is insanely general. ‘Paraphrase’? Really?"
Here their edits are either rude or complaining. Complaining about photos, how female characters look, and editing another troper's entry while also calling them racist against Russians???? And here, citing racism against the Swiss?
Here their complaining is quite a Wall of Text, too.
Here their edit reason is "Despicable and ignorant agenda"
Here their entry is "There is literally no source or evidence anywhere that indicates that the Sunwell & Blood Elves were a metaphor for drug addiction. The biggest way to insult a content creator is to shoehorn your own social & political views into their work, like the above troper did."
Edited by iamconstantineopenAgenda based editing
25mg12 has an obvious bias against lesbian parings. Or, to quote one of their edit reasons on Characters.KaguyaSamaLove, "Fuck yurists".
openSuperfluous Roleplay indexes? Web Original
So, I asked this questions in the comments under an earlier ATT query but didn't get a reply, so I'll ask again: what exactly is the difference between Forum Role Plays and Play-by-Post Games? The former page just seems like a worse version of the latter, being simply a bare index, whereas the other page actually explains what makes this medium special.
I feel like the contents of the former index should just be merged with latter, and the page itself cut.
openUnfair Deletion?
This was deleted under AndTheFandomRejoiced.Marvel Cinematic Universe:
- Wanda's role in the movie also follows the events of her Disney+ series WandaVision, which suggests these series aren't being treated as supplementary filler like the ABC and Netflix programs.
The reason was "Hooray, Marvel's trying to make people get Disney+ just to fully understand their movies. What about people who can't afford Disney+?" I believe some people noticing this isn't enough to remove? How widespread does decent have to be to deem not an example.
openIs there a rule against doing multiple edits?
So user Eddy 1215 sent me a private message telling me that they're tired of getting alerts of me continuously editing pages over and over again, and told me to do all the editing in one shot instead of going back in multiple times. The reason I go back and edit the page is because sometimes I forget something, or I noticed there was something wrong with the formatting that I didn't catch on the edit page, or there was some small grammar/punctuation error that I missed, etc etc.
Is there some kind of rule or regulation regarding this? Why is this user constantly getting alerts when I edit something?
openExcess Shipping Goggles for HoYay/MarvelCinematicUniverse? Live Action TV
I don't want to be overly stringent when it comes to what does and doesn't pass as Ho Yay, seeing as a lot of valid entries get rebuffed due to shipping wars or homophobia, but on the other hand sometimes it does feel like shippers put in a lot of entries that are on the level of "they smiled at each other" or "they said a nice thing to each other" and which are meaningless if you aren't already a rabid shipper (one time I saw an entry for another work that was "two dolls of these characters I ship were placed next to each other").
Meanwhile, my personal belief is that the cutoff requires that an entry not require a ton of explanation for a person who doesn't already wear tight Shipping Goggles regarding the pairing to understand how someone else might see it that way (e.g. no paragraph-long entry about how an offhand glance is evidence that character is the true intended love interest of the work, or how a man marrying a woman is somehow proof he's in love with the other guy for suggesting it). For example, a close hug, or an implication of an otherwise-straight character checking someone out, or other such strong interactions that might have a currently existing if ultimately nonromantic meaning intended for them, but which can be read with an alternative ship-friendly way, as opposed to trivial interactions which have no such meaning besides whatever significance shippers add to them.
In my opinion, while a few of them do, many of the recent additions to Marvel Cinematic Universe don't pass those criteria, and I've already removed some entries in the past for coming off as similarly flimsy (I've been long tempted to give the Dr. Strange subsection a complete removal for that reason; having seen the film I wish the characters had the level of depth that the shippers see in them, and the main reason I haven't is pity).
What do you think?
Edited by AlleyOopopenRejected cuts with no rejection reason
So what do we do when a cutlist submission was rejected, with no explanation on the discussion page? Some pages that seem like obvious cuts were rejected in this last batch, but there's no reason given for not cutting them. It almost makes the choice of what does and doesn't get cut seem slightly arbitrary, so is there any way to find why these rejected cuts were...well, rejected?
openTv tropes will ruin your life
So I found an actual example of this trope in this page (it's the image), with Serial Numbers Filed Off. What do we do?
Edited by Lermisopenzero context examples
caulifla removed the marking in many zero context examples in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Anime - Pokémon.
openExcessive page?
Quotes.The Reason You Suck Speech Marvel Cinematic Universe was created because Quotes.The Reason You Suck Speech was getting overly long. I think this is the first time a quotes page was too long.
Was this approved? Because this seems like an odd use of namespace?
I'd like to create a Superbook (2011) page, about the 2011 computer-animated reboot of the classic US-Japanese Superbook anime series, since I don't see any tropes on that page that relate specifically to the reboot. However, I noticed that there was a previous attempt to make a Western Animation page about the series, but it was cut due to the Anime page already existing. Would it be okay to make a trope page specifically for the rebooted series?