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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7151: May 26th 2020 at 6:05:34 AM

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During Wano's infiltration, Zoro chastises Luffy for having blown up his cover and begun a brawl with the Animal Kingdom Pirates, right after he has cut down the second floor and destroyed a good part of the hall. The Kidd pirates note how Zoro has caused as much trouble as Luffy.

In the One Piece world, everyone uses his/her Devil Fruit power in a very creative way. Kid, instead, despite having the always uses his power to control magnetism to create a giant arm composed of metallic objects to squash his opponents.

Justified, since Luffy and Zoro have already blown up their cover, but, the moment he notices Apoo, Kidd reveals himself as well, <- comma solely to make him pay for having sold out his crew by smashing him with a gigantic metal arm.

Apoo is already surprised to learn that Luffy, who he believes is still imprisoned, has infiltrated in Onigashima, but only has a shocked reaction when he realizes Kidd has sneaked in as well...

Queen offers the position of new Tobi Roppo to whoever defeats Luffy first and all of the Headliners and Gifters gleefully join the fight, while the Waiters are aware of their status as mooks and decide to keep partying since they know they have zero chance of succeeding.

Otohime has been a supporter of her pacifistic and inclusive ideas since she was young, and at the time she often organized protests against the racism present on Fishman Island. Unlike most examples, however, she was beloved by nearly everyone: <- colon even the royal guards could barely hide their admiration for her.

^ She's been a supporter of whose ideas?

Her initial reaction upon seeing Luffy for the first time is to cry and call for her dad, <- comma but <- no comma after Luffy deflects...

Shirahoshi is the last of Neptune's children and the only one to have fully inherited his size. While her brothers are relatively big as well, Shirahoshi is a gigantic mermaid, <- comma and as...

No Social Skills: <- only one colon Justified, since she spent the last ten years of her life stuck in her room. Shirahoshi is very shy, socially awkward and afraid of strangers, to the point she bursts into tears and calls her father when Luffy enters her room. After befriending Luffy and facing Hody, Shirahoshi becomes braver and more extroverted, <- comma but still has...

Especially at the beginning, Shirahoshi is scared of anything strange to her, and her reaction is bursting into tears and calling for help.

Sabo is the son of a noble family of the Goa Kingdom. <- period However, after getting along with Luffy and Ace as kids <- no comma to the point they become foster brothers, getting disowned by his family and replaced by Stelly as a result of said relationship and seeing the terrible conditions the poor people live in...

^ That first sentence is really long and complicated, so I've broken it up to make it easier to read.

Edited by Arivne on May 26th 2020 at 6:12:49 AM

owlcyclops Since: Apr, 2015
#7152: May 26th 2020 at 12:26:13 PM

Hello I would like to someone to point out the flaws in this to prepare to add this to Suppercell/WMG: (I'm sorry but I'm a little rusty)

Zhrenokog Ragetamet is the "Real bad guys that got away" from Thotzev that fateful night or in other words scapegoated Oz's parents to take take the fall for what someone else did

The theory is that he was the cause of Oz's parents death that night and so adopted Oz in guilt over what he had done to him. According to what we know Z has a very shady past and it sounds like he never expected Oz in that house (he had to smuggle him into the academy) so he told him white lies (notice how he is pretty vague when explaining what happened) to keep him from finding out that he caused the worst time of his life.. It also explains why he is never on to how oz is slaking off in the academy for the last seven years he was there, perhaps he feels guilty for inadvertently destroying his life? If it was him and Oz finds out about who actually caused that day he will ether lash out at him or go into denial over the ugly truth.

Edited by owlcyclops on May 26th 2020 at 12:31:45 PM

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7153: May 27th 2020 at 2:12:04 AM

Well, first of all it's spelled "Supercell," with one P. I haven't bolded all of my changes here.

Zhrenokog Ragetamet is the "Real bad guys that got away" from Thotzev that fateful night or in other words scapegoated Oz's parents to take take the fall for what someone else did.

The theory is that he was the cause of Oz's parents death that night, and so adopted Oz out of guilt over what he had done to him. According to what we know Z has a very shady past, and it sounds like he never expected Oz in that house (he had to smuggle him into the academy), so he told him white lies (notice how he is pretty vague when explaining what happened) to keep Oz from finding out that Z caused the worst time of his life. It also explains why Z never catches on to how Oz was slacking off in the academy for the last seven years that Oz was there. Perhaps Z feels guilty for inadvertently destroying Oz's life? If it was Z who's responsible for Oz's parents' death, and Oz finds out about it, he will either lash out at him or go into denial over the ugly truth.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on May 27th 2020 at 11:12:19 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7154: May 27th 2020 at 3:22:34 AM

Dear, Michael Katsuro, please add this in O2Jam:

  • Singer Namedrop: There’s a song titled "Beautiful Day" by BeautifulDay, and the aforementioned song begins, repeats, and ends with "It’s a beautiful day".

Also please add this in Pump It Up page:

  • Covers Always Lie:
    • The K-Pop song titled "Wayo Wayo" has an Eye Catch of an animesque magenta-haired woman in a Santa suit. Though, the background animation is just about abstract animations and a cartoonish and Super-Deformed couple.
    • Another K-Pop song titled "Forever Love", the eye catch depicts a semi-realistic woman, while the background animation is just some abstract things inside.

Edited by Minorica on May 28th 2020 at 8:35:57 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7155: May 28th 2020 at 5:32:57 AM

[up][up][up] @owlcyclops

Here are some additional corrections:

Zhrenokog Ragetamet is the "Real bad guys that got away" from Thotzev that fateful night he scapegoated Oz's parents to take take the fall for what someone else did. <- period

The theory is that he was the cause of Oz's parents' death...

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7156: May 28th 2020 at 6:30:16 AM

Also Michael Katsuro, please add this trope example:

For O2Jam YMMV section:

  • Scrappy Mechanic: In O2Jam PC, “hold” notes don’t just have to be pressed in the perfect timing, they also have to be released in the perfect timing (otherwise, it’s counted as "Miss" instead of "Cool", which breaks the combo. This mechanism is similar to The Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls: Starlight Stage). Fortunately, the mobile installments avert this by letting the players press the "hold" notes without releasing them perfectly.

For the main section of O2Jam:

  • Title Drop: There are a few songs like "O2Jam" by Dr. Flowershirts, "We Luv O2Jam" by M2U and ''"Feel The O2Jam" by BeautifulDay.

For Rhythm Star:

  • Play Everyday: Login bonuses in this game. The 7th day reward is 200 diamonds, which tends to be the best reward.

Edited by Minorica on May 28th 2020 at 8:34:42 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7157: May 28th 2020 at 9:20:11 AM

Is this count as Life Imitates Art? Video Game section:

  • Zigzagged. According to O2Jam PC backstory from the archived official O2Jam websites, the players have to play music in order to create oxygen to eliminate some Ohms (because oxygen is the Ohms’ only weaknesses). Later in real life, the scientists have discovered that oxygen can eliminate cancer cells (from the website here), which is later used for oxygen therapy for cancer patients.

Edited by Minorica on May 29th 2020 at 12:02:51 AM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7158: May 28th 2020 at 12:55:46 PM

How come you say it's zigzagged?

nuclear_shmatt Creative and Confused from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Creative and Confused
#7159: May 28th 2020 at 5:35:56 PM

More for Pwnage:

Edited by nuclear_shmatt on May 29th 2020 at 1:47:02 AM

"I know my faults, my downsides. More than you know." -Red Vox
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7160: May 28th 2020 at 7:21:00 PM

Michael Katsuro, actually I want to say about zigzagged is that not the technology of producing oxygen from playing music, but the “oxygen eliminates Ohms” one becomes an oxygen therapy to cure cancer in medical technology. If it’s inappropriate, I’ll remove the “zigzagged” one.

Edited by Minorica on May 29th 2020 at 3:21:28 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
kaneki1999 Since: Oct, 2017
#7161: May 28th 2020 at 11:44:39 PM

Dear Michael Katsuro, please edit this trope on Elliot Alderson. My account got suspended so can you add this on my behalf:

So Beautiful Itsa Curse: Due to his power and looks, Elliot ends up being attractive to almost everyone, unfortunately to some of the creeps as well. He was molested by his father, Tyrell ended up falling in love with him and deluding himself into believing he and Elliot are gods, he was nearly raped in prison by the neo nazis, was forced to strip by a drug dealer when he was buying morphine and Vera became disturbingly obsessed with him the minute he looked at him and desired to make Elliot his partner/architect.

Edited by kaneki1999 on May 29th 2020 at 5:29:44 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7162: May 29th 2020 at 5:59:48 AM

[up][up][up] @nuclear_shmatt

In later videos, Damian plays up more of his eccentricity. On the rare occasion he snarks, it comes as a pleasant surprise. In Creepypasta Land Part 1, when Kyle misremembers the name of Jeff the Killer, Damian sarcastically agrees.

In their Super Hexagon video, Kyle symbolically compares the game to the hope of escaping Pwnage, only to be dragged back down.

^ I don't see anything wrong with the English in this paragraph, but the video game name needs to be in italics as per How to Write an Example - Emphasis For Work Names.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#7163: May 29th 2020 at 7:25:05 AM

  • Scrappy Mechanic: In O2Jam PC, “hold” notes don’t just have to be pressed with perfect timing, they also have to be released with perfect timing. Fortunately, the mobile installments avert this by letting the players press the "hold" notes without having to release them perfectly.

As you can see, I removed the parenthesis. If something is in a parenthesis, then it's most likely not important enough to keep in the entry.

  • Title Drop: There are a few songs that mention the name O2Jam:
    • "O2Jam" by Dr. Flowershirts.
    • "We Luv O2Jam" by M 2 U.
    • "Feel The O2Jam" by Beautiful Day.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on May 29th 2020 at 4:28:43 PM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7164: May 29th 2020 at 10:03:00 PM

Oh, I see... Michael Katsuro. Thanks

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7165: May 30th 2020 at 1:11:12 AM

Dear Michael Katsuro, please add this in Kosodate Quiz My Angel:

  • Sequel Gap: The first four games were released in less than 5 years (each of them were released every year). However, the last installment "Unō no Tatsujin: Hirameki Kosodate My Angel" was released 7 years after the fourth game.

Edited by Minorica on May 30th 2020 at 3:12:48 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#7166: May 30th 2020 at 4:12:59 AM

for Buggy

  • Large and in Charge: Invoked. After becoming a Warlord and obtaining more power, Buggy ties his fluctuating hands and head to a cape to appear larger and more intimidating.

It means that Buggy (who can detacth his body parts) ties his hands and his head to a cape and, by having these three body parts levitate above the ground, he appears much larger

for Kozuki Oden

  • Anti-Hero: Oden is without a doubt a heroic person, but he doesn't act like a classic Japanese hero:he doesn't follow the rules and traditions of Wano and he's not above scolding and insulting the person he helps.
  • Harem Seeker: When he was 15, Oden kidnapped many women and put them in a temple to create his own personal harem. Said women could leave whenever they wanted but decided to remain with Oden, until their husbands engaged a war with him.
  • Humble Hero: Oden refers to everyone as his equal and, despite the sacrifices he performs to help others, he doesn't like getting any credit for them. The most egregious example is when he agrees to dance naked in the streets to save the hostages' lives. He humiliates himself without explaining to anyone, not even his wife and children, the motivations for his actions. The people learn about this only thanks to Shinobu, who spied on the deal between Oden and Orochi.
  • Innocently Insensitive: While hearing six year old Hiyori playing the shamisen, Oden compliments her, claiming he wants her to play that song at his funeral. A scene later, Hiyori is crying and Oden asks Momonosuke what has he done to his sister.
  • Load-Bearing Hero: An unconventional example, in that he's preventing others from falling. After being sentenced to be boiled alive along with his retainers, Oden convinces Orochi and Kaido to give them a chance to survive and Orochi suggests that, if they survive for an hour, they'll be free. Oden then jumps into the boiling oil and holds all of his retainers on a wooden platform above the oil for the entire hour. Afterwards, Oden is too tired to move and is shot in the head by Kaido.
  • Think Nothing of It: As he sees a young Dogstorm, Catviper and Kawamatsu tied to a pole and set on fire by some Wano inhabitants, Oden scolds the inhabitants and beats them for their bigotry. Dogstorm, Catviper and Kawamatsu thank him and he just leaves, until they call him because they are still tied to a pole. Out of gratitude, the three become Oden's followers despite the latter not wanting it.

for One Piece

  • Critical Dissonance: The Fishman Island arc received an initially widely negative reception from the fandom due to a lack of climactic fights and huge stakes, although the general reception has warmed up. Critics, however, have always held Fishman Island arc in high regard due to its well-written themes, the important revelations for the story and introducing the Straw Hats after the time-skip, and consider it one of the best arcs in the series, often above fan-favorites like Marineford and Alabasta.
  • Hype Backlash: Because of the high critical reception and how often fans consider the series "the best manga ever made", it's only natural that many people disagree with the notion and think the series, while usually considered good, doesn't deserve all the hype.
  • It's Popular, Now It Sucks!: One Piece is the best selling manga in history and the third best selling comicbook of all times. It's also been consistently popular all over the world for almost two decades. Naturally, some people are taken aback by this popularity and consider the series overrated.

Edited by fishysaur on May 31st 2020 at 4:38:41 AM

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
Strafe2409 Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#7167: May 30th 2020 at 5:31:00 AM

For Magallan's character profile in this page

  • Odd Friendship: In her second Trust File, she developed a good relationship with the Emperor of Penguin Logistics, that some operators (including those from the aforementioned logistic firm) have expressed envy. The fact that she owned a keychain themed around him on her both character CG also helps.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7168: May 31st 2020 at 4:19:23 AM

[up][up] @fishysaur

Large and in Charge: After becoming a Warlord and obtaining more power, Buggy starts tying his fluctuating hands and starts wearing a cape to appear larger and more intimidating.

^ "...tying his fluctuating hands..." What does this mean? What does it have to do with Buggy being Large and in Charge?

Oden is without a doubt a heroic person, <- comma but he doesn't act like a classic Japanese hero: he doesn't follow the rules and traditions of Wano...

When he was 15, Oden kidnapped many women and put them in a temple to create his own personal harem. Said women could leave whenever they wanted, but decided to remain with Oden <- no comma until their husbands engaged a war with him.

Oden refers to everyone as his own equal and, despite the sacrifices he performs to help others, he doesn't like getting any credit for them. The most egregious example is when he agrees to...

While hearing six year old Hiyori playing the shamisen...

An unconventional example, <- comma in that he's preventing others from falling...Oden then jumps into the boiling oil and holds all of his retainers above the oil for the entire hour.

...Oden scolds the inhabitants and beats them for their bigotry. Dogstorm, Catviper and Kawamatsu thank him and he just leaves, until they call him because they are still tied to a pole. Out of gratitude, the three become Oden's followers...

The Fishman Island arc has received an initially negative reception from the fandom due to a lack of climactic fights and huge stakes, although the general reception has warmed up. Critics, however, have always held it in high regard due to its well-written themes, important story revelations and introduction of the Straw Hats...

...while usually considered good, doesn't deserve all the hype.

One Piece is the best selling manga in history and the third best selling comic book of all time. <- period It's also been consistently popular all over the world for almost two decades. Naturally, some people are taken aback by this popularity and consider the series overrated.

^ The first sentence above was a run-on sentence connected together by a comma splice.

Edited by Arivne on May 31st 2020 at 4:34:36 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7169: May 31st 2020 at 4:38:59 AM

[up][up] @Strafe 2409

In her second Trust File, she develops such a good relationship with the Emperor of Penguin Logistics <- no comma that some operators (including those from the aforementioned logistic firm) have express envy toward her. The fact that she owns a keychain themed around him on both her character CGs also helps.

^ Changed verbs from past tense to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

I have no idea what a "CG" is, so you might want to expand on that.

Edited by Arivne on May 31st 2020 at 4:39:51 AM

Vanilluxe Since: Apr, 2018
#7170: May 31st 2020 at 11:32:26 AM

Something for Regular Show's Hilarious in Hindsight:

  • Hilarious in Hindsight: In the episode, "Trash Boat". Rigby changed his name to the titular name, after seeing a Rock Band having two random words to Awesome McCoolname. Two years later after the episode's air-date, a British Punk Rock went under the same name of Trash Boat. Guess Rigby might be right on Trash Boat being a cool name.

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#7171: May 31st 2020 at 2:56:49 PM

[up] According to The Other Wiki (via a story by news.livenation.co.uk), the band took its name from the show. Not sure if that is an argument for or against it being a HIH example.

Edited by HighCrate on May 31st 2020 at 2:57:03 AM

Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7172: Jun 1st 2020 at 5:20:48 AM

Does failing to save the character that they want to save at the end (the Big Bad dies, but the victim who want to be saved also dies. At least The Hero is still alive) also count as a Shoot the Shaggy Dog or a "Shaggy Dog" Story?

Edited by Minorica on Jun 1st 2020 at 7:42:28 PM

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#7173: Jun 1st 2020 at 7:09:50 AM

[up][up][up] @Vanilluxe

In the episode <- no comma "Trash Boat". Rigby changed his name to the titular name <- no comma after seeing a rock band having two random words as its Awesome McCoolname. Two years later after the episode's air-date, a British punk rock band adopted the same name "Trash Boat". Guess Rigby might be right about Trash Boat being a cool name.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
Minorica Rhythm Heroine from Earth Since: Dec, 2019 Relationship Status: It's so nice to be turned on again
Rhythm Heroine
#7175: Jun 1st 2020 at 10:30:45 PM

Thanks Michael Katsuro.

"No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..."

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