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Throughout this site, some tropers have a habit of adding in potholes and references to their favorite reviewers in entries, e.g. "Come see (reviewer)'s take on it here!"

Not only is it often unnecessary, but in some cases if the critic in question is a Caustic Critic it can be used to invite complaining, on top of crossing over into Reviews Are the Gospel territory since these tropers often treat these reviewers as if their opinion is fact.

Per this thread in Wiki Talk, this thread has been created in Long-Term Projects to clean up this kind of thing and Reviews Are the Gospel-type stuff in general.

REMEMBER: This criteria, made by mightymewtron, should be followed for knowing when to keep reviewer potholes:

If it's a widespread opinion and the entry can stand on its own, and the reviewer just helps explain it, then I don't think it's doing harm.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:28:10 PM

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#551: May 18th 2022 at 6:38:27 AM

Bringing up the following example from Days of Thunder:

  • Genre Turning Point: Film journalist Stephen Metcalf argues that the film's wretched production excesses, and their attendant impact on the film's profits, made auteur-driven filmmaking acceptable again a decade after the notion had been discredited by the box-office failure of Heaven's Gate. United Artists' willingness to indulge Michael Cimino on that film had led to a backlash where studios favored producers like Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer who were effectively the sole creative forces behind their films, with directors merely taking orders from them. After similar excesses on the part of the producers, studios would let directors assert themselves creatively again, and it's no coincidence that Days director Tony Scott's critical reputation improved over the course of the '90s.

DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#552: May 18th 2022 at 12:18:01 PM

[up] Cut all the reviewer mentions and re-write it to make it look like they were never there.

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#553: May 19th 2022 at 10:50:04 AM

From Anime.Digimon Tamers:

  • Parental Hypocrisy: Usually on display through Janyu, or, as JesuOtaku frequently puts it:
    JesuOtaku: Lying to your children/parents! ...It's a thing now.

The example is mostly a ZCE anyway.

MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#554: May 19th 2022 at 12:31:13 PM

[up]I guess delete the reviewer reference, and then just hide the example, unless you can supply more context.

DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#555: May 21st 2022 at 2:17:20 PM

Bringing up this example from The Moral Substitute.

  • Colby's Clubhouse is more direct and deliberate, with the titular anthropomorphic computer telling his large troupe of singing, dancing children about God and referring to the Bible. It did have a spinoff called "Colby's Place", a Christian KidCom mocked by Chadtronic here.

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#556: May 21st 2022 at 6:41:57 PM

Just cut the last four words.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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#557: May 23rd 2022 at 9:20:36 AM

This is on Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers (2022):

  • Misapplied Phlebotinum: In his video about the cameos, 3C Films asked why Sweet Pete didn't use the toon transforming machine to make himself younger and thinner.

This should be obviously cut since sounds more like Fridge Logic than anything else.

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MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#559: May 23rd 2022 at 4:57:35 PM

Found on this on the YMMV page for Denver the Last Dinosaur:

Edited by DongwaChan on May 23rd 2022 at 8:07:11 AM

CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
Am I a weirdo?
#560: May 23rd 2022 at 6:39:57 PM

You can comment that out as a Zero-Context Example, unless you know the missing context.

Edited by CompletelyNormalGuy on May 23rd 2022 at 6:40:24 AM

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DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#561: May 24th 2022 at 1:19:45 PM

One of the two page quotes on Bob Sapp's page is a quote from Seanbaby that seems to be making fun of him. Should I remove it?

CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#562: May 24th 2022 at 2:29:29 PM

I mean, I wouldn't call the quote making fun of him, but pages should only have one quote anyway, and I think the other one is better.

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DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#563: May 27th 2022 at 1:55:11 PM

The page quote for Mike Rotunda is one making fun of his "I.R.S." gimmick. Should it be cut?

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#564: May 28th 2022 at 10:42:00 AM

From YMMV.Tron Legacy:

Is this reference necessary? Also how is the reaction different from audiences?

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#565: May 28th 2022 at 12:06:00 PM

...Wouldn't a blogger technically be a critic?

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DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#567: Jun 1st 2022 at 1:20:31 PM

[up] Cut the last sentence.

Edited by DongwaChan on Jun 1st 2022 at 4:49:41 AM

DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#568: Jun 2nd 2022 at 12:06:50 PM

Bringing this up from the pro wrestling subpage for Troubled Production:

Financial abuse was sadly incredibly common in TNA when it was backed by the Jarretts and Dixie Carter, an (unaccountable) heiress to a million-dollar Texas energy company. In fact, TNA won The Wrestling Observer Newsletter's "Worst Promotion of the Year" award every year from 2007 to 2017 - eleven times in a row - specifically for this reason. note 

fragglelover Since: Jun, 2012
#569: Jun 4th 2022 at 3:38:44 PM

This is the page quote on An American Tail:

"Don Bluth's philosophy was that children could handle just about anything as long as you attached a happy ending. Fuck you, Mr. Bluth! I may be able to handle it, but my therapy bills won't! (Inelegant Blubbering)

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#570: Jun 4th 2022 at 4:43:54 PM

Eh, I don't necessarily mind it. It gives context as to why the film as these tearjerkers while also referencing a reviewer representing the generation who grew up with it.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
FirstAidRules First Aid Rules from House Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Singularity
#571: Jun 4th 2022 at 5:48:48 PM

Transformers: Earth Wars: Allegedly Free Game: Internet commentator Jim of the Jimquisition once did a story on someone who spent several thousand dollars on this game trying to unlock particular characters.

Mostly because I haven't seen something like this on pages like Angry Birds: Transformers and Angry Birds Epic.

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DongwaChan Since: Feb, 2019
#572: Jun 6th 2022 at 1:37:28 PM

[up] Regarding the An American Tail example - I'd say cut it, since it does seem to kinda be mocking the filmmaker. And for the Angry Birds example, cut it.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#573: Jun 8th 2022 at 1:51:08 AM

Bringing up the following example from Home Alone 3

  • Contested Sequel: Easily the most contested of the follow-ups; some, like Roger Ebert, consider it the strongest movie, others like The Nostalgia Critic loathe it. Then you have a middle ground, who concede that it's still a good movie and the main actor is pretty good, but not as strong as the first two movies.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#574: Jun 8th 2022 at 2:50:59 AM

While I could do without equating Ebert and the Nostalgia Critic, I think naming names actually benefits that entry, since it makes it a bit more concrete then the typical vague "trust me, some people hated it and some other people loved it" Broken Base and related tropes writeups.

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#575: Jun 13th 2022 at 2:00:42 AM

Bringing up this example from The Snowman (2017):


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