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It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.
Common issues are:
So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.
Alright, let's get this going.
First thing we need to do is review the videos that are currently uploaded and vote on them. To do this properly, we might need to shut down the video uploading for a while to get caught up. Once we are caught up, any video that is uploaded and approved by mods will be sent here for voting. We watch and vote on the videos and send them up.
That's my proposed system anyway. Anyone else got suggestions?
^ Sounds fine to me, though obviously we'll need more agreement.
Don't worry, I promise not to upload any new videos until we get caught up, at least with the stuff I uploaded. On second thought, this thread ain't moving one bit. I'll probably start uploading stuff again.
To start off, let's look at my Leisure Suit Larry videos, starting with the first game: Leisure Suit Larry 1: In the Land of the Lounge Lizards. I went with the VGA version most of the time as it has better graphics than the EGA original while still staying more faithful to it than Reloaded. Here are my reasons why I uploaded them:
Edited by Piterpicher on Jun 23rd 2019 at 3:54:11 PM
I have a list of video ideas on my troper page, but I and others also brought up some videos with issues:
I don't think we need to specifically discuss every video that's been uploaded. It would be way simpler to just watch through them and just post the ones that people think are problematic in some fashion.
Regarding these four:
Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Jun 8th 2019 at 7:53:12 AM
That's how most other threads work, at least.
About the spoilers, I was thinking we could have a month restriction depending on the type of episode: regular episodes get two months, Wham Episodes get four months (could be increased depending on severity of the Wham), and season/series finales get six months. Episodes from Slice of Life works or works with little continuity would get a few weeks.
Does this sound okay?
I love it.
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jun 8th 2019 at 9:08:09 AM
Is the video I put on Déjà Vu okay? It might come off as a "might as well be a page quote" video for some, but the music repeating and slowing down gives it a certain edge that, while still possible to cleanly and quickly describe as just text, pushes it into useful audio territory. It also shows the entirety of the trope and nothing more, lasting less than 30 seconds.
Yes, I intentionally picked the same show as the page quote while looking for something that could work as an image.
Sounds OK at a minimum.
Edited by Brainulator9 on Jun 8th 2019 at 9:04:14 AM
Honestly, I'd say it would be easier to just have a blanket period across all types of episodes. It would be easier to enforce and we wouldn't have to bother hashing out exactly how important a reveal has to be to count as a Wham Episode. Just having a universal six-month cooldown would work fine.
I'd say that's a pretty good example of what we're looking for, really. It shows enough to show the trope, and I think the repetition works pretty well in a visual medium.
EDIT: Whoops, double post. Had the same tab open twice for some reason and thought I was in a different thread.
Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Jun 8th 2019 at 8:07:58 AM
So I haven't tried the spoiler check box. What does it do exactly?
As far as I can tell...nothing. Not to the videos. Though I may need someone else to confirm, as I may have just not checked on the right video.
This is also assuming we're both talking about the "Show Spoilers" function.
No, when you upload a video, there's a checkbox to mark it as a spoiler or something. I don't know what that does.
Oh. I've not added any videos, so I didn't know that existed.
To post 6: I suppose I must have misunderstood what post 2 said, with lines like "First thing we need to do is review the videos that are currently uploaded and vote on them." and "any video that is uploaded and approved by mods will be sent here for voting. We watch and vote on the videos and send them up." I thought that every video will be judged and voted on here, but I guess not.
That was just a proposal for how the system would work. Personally, I think it's a bit overkill, but if that's what we decide to do, then we do that. It's just that most of the videos so far are probably okay, so rather than individually discuss and vote on all of them I think it would be more efficient for people to just watch them on their own and only actually bring up the ones that have issues. Honestly we should probably figure out what system we're actually using before we start going through the videos.
So I guess the first thing to vote on is whether this thread's purpose is to vet all videos or just for addressing ones that are problematic.
Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Jun 9th 2019 at 9:22:23 AM
best just the ones that are problematic.
Okay, so I created a sandbox page at Videos Needing Review for the purpose of keeping track of what videos have been brought up for review. I figured it would help keep things organized if we could have everything in one place.
Basically if you find a video that you think has quality control issues, just add it to the list along with a brief description of the issue. I figure once we actually discuss a video in the thread and come to a consensus on what to do with it, we can comment it out. That way even if the video stays up there'll be something of a record of what we did with it.
Hopefully eventually we can just deal with videos as they come up and not need the page, but since we currently have a backlog, I thought it might be helpful. If not, we can just can the page and figure something else out.
the recent slew of Aladdin videos have some problems.
Edited by acrobox on Jun 16th 2019 at 12:41:49 PM
So...since this thread is up and running, I must ask how we'll actually be policing these videos, with them being mod-approval-only and all...
yeah not actually sure.
Documenting the problems is fine, but what can be done to actually fix them?
Even for simple stuff like there's no consistency to how videos are titled, or what they're tagged to (just the work, the work/its franchise, the work/franchise/and character pages for characters featured?)
Jafar from Aladdin would go on The Bluebeard (the Spear Counterpart of Black Widow), and I don't think he's even an example of that, since it's a one-time scheme to become Sultan rather than a Serial Killer's MO.
Til Murder Do Us Part, maybe?
I think the Avatar: The Last Airbender example on Deadpan Snarker would work better on Stealth Insult or Disabled Snarker.
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