Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
Do you have trouble recognizing when you've written a Zero-Context Example?
Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
Other Resources:
For best results, please include why you think an example is iffy in your first post.
Also, many oft-misused tropes/topics have their own threads, such as Surprisingly Realistic Outcome (here
) and Fan-Preferred Couple (here). Tropers are better able to give feedback on examples you bring up to specific threads.
For cleaning up examples of Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard, you must use their dedicated threads: Complete Monster Cleanup, Magnificent Bastard Cleanup.
Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
While the functional effect (the work not being available to the public) is the same, a ban is done by an external force. It is not the same as a copyright holder exerting their rights.
I'm helping!
@FirePuppy: I just wrote a short story. I have no intention of publishing it anywhere. Is this story banned?
Edited by wingedcatgirl on Sep 18th 2021 at 7:02:43 AM
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Officially intimidated
Yeah, it's definitely not a example of ban. Ban is when a work is legally prohibited in a country or region by a regulatory body (be it the government, a censorship bureau, a rating organization, etc.). If it's the company behind the work's creation which forbids distribution for some reason, it falls under Keep Circulating the Tapes.
An example would be Super Hornio Brothers. Nintendo bought the rights of the movie so it would never be distributed. It's not "banned", it's purposedly withheld so it's not accessed by anyone (not legally, at least).
So please refrain from reinstating the consulted example as Banned in China, because it doesn't fit.
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Sep 18th 2021 at 8:36:19 AM
135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
the Retromancer
From YMMV.Arthurian Legend, Germans Love David Hasselhoff:
"Half of the classic stories come from France of all places..."
"It's no coincidence that the French Lancelot was given so much attention by the later French writers..."
"And then there's the English, but then, it is pretty common for countries to celebrate their deep past while glossing over all the invasions and revolutions in between."
Who is considered the definite country of origin for it, Welsh? Do both France and England work?
Also in Take Over the World / Real Life, is it safe to replace Those Wacky Nazis with UsefulNotes.Nazi Germany? I don't think Those Wacky Nazis should be used when describing historical events.
Edited by Amonimus on Sep 18th 2021 at 5:35:47 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Officially intimidated
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To the second question, yes.
the Retromancer
Changed that one.
Maybe we should state the definition of "banned" on the description of Banned in China.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
I'm helping!
I mean, the trivia description does seem to get the point across pretty clearly already.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Oh.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
For The Danza, most examples have the actor share their first name with their character. A smaller number share their last name with their character. Even fewer share their full name with their character. But what if the actor's first name is the character's last name? (For example Beverley Leslie from Will & Grace played by Leslie Jordan.) Is that still an example of The Danza?
So I have an example from a fanfic of Star Wars Rebels where Ezra is using himself to protect a child from a vicious animal. He keeps hold of the kid while on the ground as the animal attacks him. Is this an example of a Human Shield or Go Through Me. The former examples all appear to be villains using the human shield while the latter is simply standing up to someone to protect someone else.
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NEO: The World Ends with You contains an enemy named "Smooth Shark". Does this seem like a reference to the "sharks are totally smooth" thing to y'all, or do you think it's just a coincidence? (For context, nearly all animal enemies in this game are named in the form "[Musical reference] [The animal that it is]".)
If you're drugged awake, are you The Insomniac or The Sleepless? Or neither?
Edited by Malady on Sep 20th 2021 at 10:02:49 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Neither. That's just Sleep Deprivation.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
x3 I'm fairly certain that's a coincidence.
The Unknown
From YMMV.Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney. Spoilers for the final case of the third game.
- Accidental Aesop: Case 3-5 can come off as an argument against the death penalty. While Dahlia Hawthorne is guilty of killing two people and driving a third to suicide, and arguably deserves to be hanged for her crimes, if Dahlia hadn't been executed, it wouldn't have been possible to channel her spirit, and Misty Fey wouldn't have been killed.
This seems like a huge stretch to me considering the supernatural elements involved and the acknowledgement that Dahlia probably did deserve it.
Edited by Karxrida on Sep 20th 2021 at 12:41:35 PM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
That's a truly bizarre argument for the death penalty.
Is this really an example of Anime Theme Song, or is it a shoehorn? RWBY is a US-made show with a lot of anime inspiration, but the trope itself is example-less and says only noteworthy or career-launching examples should appear on work pages. However, it doesn't give much of a guideline for what's supposed to count as 'noteworthy', beyond 'career-launching' (unlike the Japanese anime/music industries, these songs aren't launched to the US music charts, and while the lead vocalist has been doing RWBY songs since the age of 14, that's mostly because she's the lead composer's daughter — she does have her own band, but there's no indication that's because of RWBY, so it's hard to know if the show has been 'career-launching' for her).
The songs are, however, designed to be thematically relevant to each volume's storyline, so I'm wondering if this should be Expository Theme Tune instead.
- Anime Theme Song: All Volumes thus far come with OPs that wouldn't look out of place on anything coming out of Japan. The OPs, all composed by Jeff Williams and performed by Casey Lee Williams, are as follows:
- Volume 1: This Will Be the Day
- Volume 2: Time To Say Goodbye
- Volume 3: When It Falls
- Volume 4: Let's Just Live
- Volume 5: Triumph
- Volume 6: Rising
- Volume 7: Trust Love
- Volume 8: For Every Life
- Volume 1: This Will Be the Day
Edited by Wyldchyld on Sep 20th 2021 at 1:56:12 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
I'm not entirely sure what the actual definition of Anime Theme Song is, TBH.
Yeah, that whole page reads like it should be in Useful Notes instead of Main. TRS?
Anybody want to answer my query about The Danza?
The Unknown
x2 Definitely needs to go to TRS. It isn't really distinct from Theme Tune and doesn't even have examples.
Edited by Karxrida on Sep 20th 2021 at 8:50:33 AM
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
The Danza is supposed to be for characters who are named after the actor, so yes if there was proof of that.
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
I think this is the right place to do so, but I want to add an example to Affectionate Gesture to the Head and want to see if it's kosher
- Mario & Luigi: Dream Team: During the game's dream world sections, the player can use the stylus to do this to Luigi. He reacts with either confusion or affection.
Reply to wingedcatgirl:
To me, that still looks like banning something.