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Edited by Tabs on Jan 11th 2023 at 11:05:39 AM

RandomTroper123 No, I'm a girl. from I'll let you guess... Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jan 22nd 2023 at 9:10:32 PM

[up](x3) Because it doesn't mention the qualifiers you stated, I don't feel that's an example of When She Smiles.

Jan 22nd 2023 at 9:13:14 PM

Not just the goblins, there's also controversy about how the director or at least someone high on the staff is a vocal rightwinger and proponent of mated worker ants that can reproduce sexually.

WarJay77 THE definitive cousin from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
THE definitive cousin
Jan 22nd 2023 at 9:16:17 PM

Well, I didn't know about that. surprised

Uh...

Well, my argument still stands. The game would've been popular with or without the controversies.

Current Project: Uncanny Valley
SpiroSpiro Relationship Status: -not set
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:00:34 AM

Not sure if this count as Banned in China example or not.

  • Dragon Ball has officially been rejected from broadcast by a government-owned television channel in Spain’s Valencia region named Ŕ Punt, with a representative for the channel explaining that the decision had been made been in consideration of local gender legislation that prohibits the airing of “content that encourages gender discrimination through stereotypes and sexist roles”. Even before that, Canal Nou has once aired the series in The '90s.

Does this really fit the trope?

Edited by SpiroSpiro on Jan 24th 2023 at 1:01:31 AM

miraculous We'll show them. We'll show them all. from South Africa
We'll show them. We'll show them all.
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:05:43 AM

Isn't this trope for full country bans? You can still watch dragon ball on other networks in Spain?

Real power doesn't come to those who were born strongest, or fastest, or smartest. No. It comes to those who will do anything to achieve it.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:12:12 AM

Yeah, the work isn't even banned, it's one channel refusing to license its airing.

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 23rd 2023 at 8:12:21 PM

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Mrph1 from Mercia Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:13:30 AM

[up] Where countries have autonomous areas with their own laws, I think it still counts as long as it's a government restriction rather than a commercial one. Valencia has its own local laws.

The USA section has examples such as books banned in Florida schools, for example.

The “local gender legislation” line seems to be the relevant one.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 23rd 2023 at 5:14:34 PM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:17:17 AM

"has examples such as books banned in Florida schools, for example"

Naturally, them being there can be questioned as well, because Banned in China's description doesn't mention such flexibility.

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Mrph1 from Mercia Relationship Status: It's a god-awful small affair
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:20:54 AM

But that description also says "even in more liberal countries, public pressure on retailers or broadcasters can lead to an effective ban on the work" and talks about the older "Banned in Boston" phrase.

Feels like it might be a TRS question about what the scope is really supposed to be.

Fidor Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:31:52 AM

I answer to this. No. Blame himself for everything, even in what you did before, but managed to atone for it and remembering it is completely abnormal. Completely. Excessive responsibility is also abnormal. Only Sane Man will not blame himself for all the bad things if he is not involved in them and, by virtue of his sanity, will not take more than necessary. That's my opinion. What do you think, dear tropers? Write your opinion.

Edited by Fidor on Jan 23rd 2023 at 9:51:39 PM

Malady Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 10:13:00 AM

YMMV.Murder By Numbers 2020: Does That One Puzzle really work if there's the Anti-Frustration Feature of Gray Is Useless, which would make it easy to tell that there's something to find? Nothing about the puzzle being permanently missable?

  • That One Puzzle: "If The Shoe Fits" has the Speaker puzzle in the Bar with a small detection zone, and would cost players an "S" ranking. The puzzle is unlocked right after Crispin appears for the first time.

Gray Is Useless:

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Jan 23rd 2023 at 11:19:40 AM

Well it's on YMMV. You're asking if something is factually an example on a page documenting items about subjectivity.

Malady Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 11:27:52 AM

Would a "Mouse over the right area" even be a "puzzle"? It's talking more about finding the right spot to click where the cursor flashes red when near the right spot.

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
BigBadShadow25 Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 11:28:17 AM

I’m thinking VideoGame.Master Detective Archives Rain Code might be a serious Spiritual Successor to Franchise.Danganronpa. Apart from the writer, character designer, and composer working on it, I’ve noticed some gameplay similarities between the mystery dungeon gameplay to that of the logic dive, psyche taxi, and non-stop debate elements of the latter game.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Jan 23rd 2023 at 2:28:26 PM

Libraryseraph The Mockingbird and the Music Box from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
The Mockingbird and the Music Box
Jan 23rd 2023 at 11:57:26 AM

[up][up] If you have to find where to click and it's really annoying, that sounds like Pixel Hunt

Even if you're made for something, it's your choice what to do
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space
Captain of USS Bajor
Jan 23rd 2023 at 6:35:56 PM

I'm going to second that the No Such Thing as Bad Publicity example for Hogwarts Legacy on the last page is misuse. My personal feelings towards the IP aside (not going there here lol), you'd have to be able to show that the attempted boycott actually had a Streisand Effect or at least that the studio claimed it had.

selkies from Paradise Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:16:00 PM

I don't know if this is the right thread for this, but Dogged Nice Guy is still very common in Korean Dramas and Asian media in general, but it's listed as an example of a Discredited Trope. Can I add a sentence that says it might be discredited in Western media but is still played straight in Asian media?

AegisP Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:21:48 PM

I dont think its as dead a trope as the description says, but if you want to change the description you have to take the trope to TRS... But I am a dumbass and could be wrong.

Too late, I'm already judging you. Here I go judging. Ahem. "That person spells 'Mmm' with seven M's. What a weirdo."
selkies from Paradise Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:26:36 PM

Well, I'm not changing the trope in any way; it's just a line about its straight usage in modern works. Also, what description? It's just listed along with other tropes, I don't see any description talking about Dogged Nice Guy...?

AegisP Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:49:08 PM

Oh I am way dumber than I though. I was distracted and got "The description says the trope is dead" instead of "The trope is listed as discredited" Sorry!

If the above post is true then you should bring this up to Ask The Tropers or here to see if there is a thread where you can bring this up.

Edited by AegisP on Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:50:16 AM

Too late, I'm already judging you. Here I go judging. Ahem. "That person spells 'Mmm' with seven M's. What a weirdo."
Malady Relationship Status: I wanna be your sledgehammer
Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:57:33 PM

Nightschool: does this count? If anything it's a trope for the creator, not the work?

  • Darker and Edgier: The artist's previous work, Dramacon, was a fluffy romantic comedy about finding love at an anime convention

Edited by Malady on Jan 23rd 2023 at 7:58:12 AM

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RandomTroper123 No, I'm a girl. from I'll let you guess... Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jan 23rd 2023 at 10:34:26 PM

[up]It sounds like a partial-context example to me because it doesn't explain why Nightschool is more serious, grittier, and more cynical. Moreover, I don't think it counts because Darker and Edgier involves one work experiencing a Tone Shift.

Jan 24th 2023 at 3:38:23 AM

Does this count as Casual Kink.

In Action Comic #1051, Jon accidentally finds the Superman slave outfit Clark wore during his time on Warworld. Jon wonders why he kept it with the strong implication that Lois and Clark use it for their sex life.

Gacha Is A Lie.
RandomTroper123 No, I'm a girl. from I'll let you guess... Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jan 24th 2023 at 10:39:34 AM

[up]Since it seems like he doesn't make a big deal out of it, I'm leaning on saying that counts as Casual Kink.

fishysaur Good for nothing
Good for nothing
Jan 24th 2023 at 12:09:05 PM

A troper (who edit-warred) readded some tropes that were removed because of misuse, here's the ones:

  • Freudian Excuse: At the age of 12, Hancock and her sisters were abducted by slave traders and sold to the World Nobles as slaves. During that time, she was branded like cattle by the first man she ever saw, force fed her Devil Fruit and suffered 4 long years of torture, wishing for death every day. One day, a Fishman named Fisher Tiger razed the city and freed countless slaves without discrimination. Despite being freed, Hancock and her sisters had no were to go, but by fate ran into a former Empress of Amazon Lily Gloriosa, along with her friends Rayleigh and Shakky who helped them return home. However, the hellish ordeal forever changed Hancock, resulting in her becoming cold, cruel and harboring nothing but hatred towards men in general. Even with her adopted mother's love and kindness, Hancock refused to ever drop her guard again, fearing of being taking advantaged again. note 
but there's already its subtrope that covers the same exact thing
  • Screw This Im Outtahere: Once the Marines and Blackbeard Pirates leave her island after the most recent invasion on Amazon Lily, Hancock, realizing they are only after her, makes the tough but wise decision to be the only person to leave her island to protect her family and people and try to reunite with Luffy. note 
  • So Beautiful Itsa Curse: Weaponized in her case, as Hancock is so beautiful it makes everyone around her fall head over heels for her beauty. Even with Sea Stone cuffs on her, which prevented her from using her powers, the prisoners in Impel Down couldn't help but lust after her. And as shown because of her Screw the Rules, I'm Beautiful! embodiment, Hancock can just about get away with anything by using her beauty to her advantage. note 
  • Worf Had the Flu: She fights off wave after wave of Marines invading her island, along with petrifying two of blackbeards top commanders, but once Blackbeard fights her, he easily captures her with his powers and chokes the life out of her with ease and would have killed her had Rayliegh not show up when he did. note 

  • Nice Girl: In comparison to Hancock, Salome is rather friendly and playful for a snake. note 

Sooo, do they count?

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up

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