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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#5651: Apr 29th 2021 at 4:08:12 AM

Open the Door and See All the People has this example for the Family Guy episode "Boys Do Cry":

  • The Family Guy episode "Boys Do Cry" has the Griffins finding a large mob on their lawn after Stewie is mistaken for being possessed (this is one of those episodes, people!).
Is the parenthesis sentence kosher, or not?

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#5652: Apr 29th 2021 at 4:08:54 AM

It's not. They rarely are.

Edited by Delibirda on Apr 29th 2021 at 1:09:14 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#5653: Apr 29th 2021 at 4:12:09 AM

[up] I knew it. It's gone now.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#5654: Apr 29th 2021 at 10:51:36 AM

What should be done about this example on HeroicBSOD.Western Animation (not including the second subbullet)?

[down][down][down] Done.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Apr 29th 2021 at 3:01:45 PM

AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain from Down at Fraggle Rock *clap clap* Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
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#5655: Apr 29th 2021 at 10:57:49 AM

So, I dont know if this is the right place to ask this, (it probably isn't, feel free to direct me somewhere else) but is it OK to make a Dethroning Moment entry that is commented out until I want it readable so that I can make sure I got all the details correct? The episode the moment comes from in question (Looney Tunes Cartoons' "Mallard Practice", to be specific) only came out today, and I wasn't able to pay attention to everything happening in the episode due to things going on. While I did see the moment in full (it was the very ending), I still want to make sure I didn't miss any details that are important or could maybe even redeem the scene. I know this probably isn't allowed at all, and that I'm asking a stupid question, but I still wonder.

Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:00:19 PM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#5656: Apr 29th 2021 at 11:01:19 AM

Why not just draft it on a sandbox or something?

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#5657: Apr 29th 2021 at 11:28:59 AM

[up][up][up]Just burn it.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#5658: Apr 29th 2021 at 11:43:12 AM

While not that bad in comparison to other pages, YMMV.A Troll In Central Park seems to have some issues with complaining, not helped by its controversial status.

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#5659: Apr 29th 2021 at 12:16:46 PM

[up] It's on Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining already, as I added it to its predecessor "Infamous and Controversial Works" a while back.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#5660: Apr 29th 2021 at 3:21:20 PM

From Characters.Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom:

  • Hate Sink: Willie Scott is considered one of the most hated film characters ever. Her Gold Digger Jerkass attitude, her constant complaining about not having luxuries, being a Brainless Beauty, blaming Indy for all her troubles throughout the film at the end (though he does share some responsibility for it) and doing little to nothing productive or relevant to the plot has made her extremely unpopular with many Indiana Jones fans. Unlike other characters who act as The Load (such as Brody and Henry Sr.), who at least have a pleasant personality or help contribute to the plot, she does neither of those things.

This seems like misuse, as she's meant to be a protagonist. It might work as a Scrappy entry, however.

BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#5661: Apr 29th 2021 at 9:06:56 PM

[up][up] Oh, OK. Thanks for telling me.

SpongeBat1 Since: Jul, 2012
#5662: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:01:42 PM

YMMV.My Brave Pony Starfleet Magic has this lovely little note under Harsher in Hindsight:

  • Mykan's interpretations of the Mane Six are Flanderized down to their most basic personality traits all to make the Space Ponies look superior. The movie actually seems to go for this depiction of Twilight's friends for a couple acts in order to make her losing faith in friendship and attempted pearl theft make more sense. At least they all make up for it in the end.

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#5663: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:04:14 PM

Cut, it's just whining.

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#5664: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:04:21 PM

[up][up] That seems like complaining about the movie. I think it can be cut.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Apr 30th 2021 at 3:04:28 PM

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#5665: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:11:30 PM

Can’t people just whine in the forum for a change?

Edited by Delibirda on Apr 30th 2021 at 9:12:48 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
SpongeBat1 Since: Jul, 2012
#5666: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:16:06 PM

[up][up][up] & [up][up] That's what I thought.

Also now that I'm looking the page over, the Memetic Mutation section on the page reads more like a laundry list of complaints about the author and work than listing actual memes.

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#5667: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:20:22 PM

Memetic Mutation is under discussion, so we can delete the whole thing and start over when it’s done.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#5668: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:23:56 PM

[up] The actual decision would be to wait until the TRS is done to change it. No point in cutting it if we decide to re-add it anyway.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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#5669: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:26:15 PM

Granted, I don't think anyone's willing to keep hatedom memes or bashing, but we can discuss that on the TRS thread itself.

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#5670: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:27:21 PM

Should I just remove the image caption from My Brave Pony: Starfleet Magic? It comes off as complaining.

I really have to wonder though, what in the author attracted the ire of this wiki specifically, to have 3 or 4 work pages dedicated to his works, as well as a creator page?

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 30th 2021 at 4:29:42 PM

Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#5671: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:29:29 PM

[up] Yeah, I could've sworn it was brought up before. It's not even an unusual image out of context, given how many brony crossovers exist.

Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 30th 2021 at 3:29:48 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#5672: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:32:45 PM

We can add his stuff to Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#5673: Apr 30th 2021 at 12:34:03 PM

It's already there, IIRC.

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#5674: Apr 30th 2021 at 3:03:28 PM

On RuinedForever.Anime And Manga:

  • Woo-hoo, Sailor Moon Crystal is getting dubbed into Latin Spanish! Wait, they didn't use Mariana Ortiz as Sailor Jupiter in the role her mother played and instead had a complete stranger dub her? And Rocío Garcel was too ill to voice Luna and they had her stand-in take over the role and re-record all the dialogue Garcel already recorded instead of waiting until she got better? Queen Beryl's voice actress didn't come back because she doesn't work at Dubbing House? AND TOEI FORCED THEM TO USE THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE NAMES INSTEAD OF THE LOCALIZED NAMES FOR THE CHARACTERS? WHY TOEI, WHY?!?
  • Some claim that Sailor Moon's English re-dubbing by Viz Media was permanently ruined in Canada after not being made available online to Canadians fast enough for them to avoid encountering spoilers.

Do these entries sound like complaining?

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#5675: Apr 30th 2021 at 3:06:43 PM

Yes... yes...YES!

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