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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4751: Nov 25th 2017 at 9:09:39 AM

So, considering Detail-Hogging Cover lost a Platypus Comix quote that sounded too much like complaining, should the CinemaSins quote on Vanity Plate also go?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#4752: Nov 26th 2017 at 9:05:03 PM

Achievements in Ignorance has two quotes. Which should go?

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4753: Nov 27th 2017 at 6:09:14 AM

First one. It expresses the trope better.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#4754: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:59:58 PM

Should a page quote control a You Tube link? The page quote for Good Cannot Comprehend Evil has one, and my instinct is to remove it, but I wanted to check before I did so.

Ideally I'd like to be able to quote in the edit reason an administrivia page, if there is one, explaining why that's a no-no. But I'm not sure where to find it. The search for one is what brought me to the thread though so I figured I might be able to get a point in the right direction

dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4755: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:10:13 AM

So, considering Detail-Hogging Cover lost a Platypus Comix quote that sounded too much like complaining, should the CinemaSins quote on Vanity Plate also go?

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4756: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:21:34 AM

  • Vanity Plate: No, that isn't merely complaining. That's being sarcastic and making a joke while complaining. I think it's fine. Moreover, it is not speculative like the Detail-Hogging Cover quote. There really are that many seconds of logos that are being complained about as opposed to someone making an informed guess as though they're an expert with a bunch of citations or something.
  • Achievements in Ignorance: Agreed, though it's already been taken care of.
  • Good Cannot Comprehend Evil: If we're not supposed to pothole anything in the quote, then we shouldn't link anything either. It's the same principle.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4757: Dec 1st 2017 at 9:45:11 AM

It was still a pothole, just an external one.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4758: Dec 3rd 2017 at 7:01:29 PM

Quoting my ATT query:

On McElroy Brothers, the pagetop quote has had a note added to it. I would remove it for altering an original quotation (plus it's covered in the description), but it's possible he actually said that, as a variation on his usual line. Can anyone confirm/deny?

And the reply I got:

I don't think notes are allowed in quotes to begin with, like potholes. It'd have to be one version or the other, which can be discussed in the General Quotes thread in the forums. (Projects Long Term Perpetual.)

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4759: Dec 3rd 2017 at 7:21:45 PM

Yeah, I can think of two reasons to take that out:

  1. If cannot confirm, deny. (Simply because this is a quotation we're talking about rather than some other thing on the wiki that may have an easier time at getting benefit of the doubt.)
  2. It's not quite the same principle as "no potholes," but it still requires reader input to figure out what's goin' on, so to speak. Rather than hovering your cursor over the link, though, you have to click on it.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4760: Dec 3rd 2017 at 7:44:47 PM

[up] Okay, done.

There's two quotes on John Green.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4761: Dec 6th 2017 at 7:13:45 PM

The first one is attributed vaguely to "fans". I prefer the second quote anyway.

In either case, nuke all the potholes. Argh, that is bad!

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#4762: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:08:59 PM

was looking at a fanfic page for South of Oz and noticed it provides the page quote for Cue the Flying Pigs. Upon checking said page out I noticed said quote has a spoiler tag in it and the troper who replaced the original quote curates the Oz page pretty faithfully.

The original quote was:

"Holy crap!! They TALKED! They actually TALKED! The Apocalypse has finally begun! Pigs are learning how to fly! Satan is skating his way to work, and I'm pretty sure that I just became a monkey's uncle!"
The Nostalgia Critic, upon hearing Tom and Jerry talking during his review of their Big Damn Movie.

The new quote is:

Ozma: Did any pigs fly when you came back?
West: No, Suprisingly enough.
South of Oz, when West and Glinda safely freed their mother from Isolation Island.

Is it kosher to change a page quote without asking? And should it be changed back?

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4763: Dec 18th 2017 at 4:36:30 PM

General consensus is you can add the first quote unilaterally, but to change it you come here. It's been a long while since it's been openly discussed, though.

I say revert to the former quote.

And page top quotes don't get potholes, sinkholes, or spoilers.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#4764: Dec 18th 2017 at 8:18:09 PM

Aren't sinkholes forbidden everywhere, sort of by definition?

Maybe not the forums.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#4765: Dec 19th 2017 at 12:14:12 PM

I brought up in Ask The Tropers that Stray Shots Strike Nothing and Arbitrary Maximum Range have the same quote. Do we want to replace one of them with something else?

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#4766: Dec 19th 2017 at 1:16:50 PM

Setting aside the length issue, I think it's a better fit for Stray Shots Strike Nothing. Not sure what to replace the Arbitrary Maximum Range quote with, so I suppose we can pull it for now.

edited 19th Dec '17 1:17:25 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
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Blapper of Water
#4767: Dec 19th 2017 at 10:39:38 PM

The page quote on Role-Ending Misdemeanor doesn't make sense to me. It was added by johnnyfog, but the fact that I can't make sense of it in relation to illustrating the trope brought me here.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4768: Dec 19th 2017 at 10:56:28 PM

It requires a slight bit of popculture osmosis to get - I've never watched Friends, but I know the character Joey plays a doctor on a Show Within a Show, so the idea from the quote and the title of the episode is that the writers killed his character in retaliation for Joey belittling them.

That said, I don't think it works, and anyway Word of Mod is that johnnyfog's stuff is supposed to be cut on principle. Chop it.

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4769: Dec 20th 2017 at 1:46:31 AM

I saw that episode. I would count it as a snub, but not a misdemeanor.

Unfortunately, the quotes on the Quotes page are kind of long, and the one down in the examples from Cheers doesn't seem to fit either.

Way[up], on sinkholes: there's been a lot of people who argue "you didn't tell me that", that no one said the rule applied to this specific thing, or argue their way is better even if it violates the rules. I'm the type that likes to get out in front of those, before they appear. Plus it can help newbies to list out specifics.

edited 20th Dec '17 1:46:48 AM by Candi

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4770: Dec 20th 2017 at 6:55:32 AM

I cut the quote. If there's a "cut on principle" thing, plus a "this is confusing" thing, plus a "that's not exactly an example" thing, I think it's safe to cut. Not sure what to replace it with.

What about...:

"The golf world is still rooting for Tiger Woods. Fans of the game would love to see the Tiger of yore, swinging away and winning majors, breaking records and dominating the field. Everyone loves a comeback, or a good redemption story. And people in general would have one less thing to shake their heads at if the demons of 2009 could just be exorcised forever."

edited 20th Dec '17 7:01:12 AM by WaterBlap

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#4771: Dec 21st 2017 at 12:02:36 PM

The page quote on Playing Against Type was originally added by Johnnyfog, I wanna replace it with one of the quotes on the quotes sub-page, but I'm not sure which one to use:

->That's right, Jessica Alba is the criminal mastermind. Jessica freaking Alba! Ahahahaha!
Film Brain, Bad Movie Beatdown: Awake

->Interviewer:Have you been sort of typecast, a little bit?
Jeter: If I have, it's not the type of character I'm playing in this film because usually I'm the very sympathetic good guy. So this is a bit different, and a bit more fun, I think.
Michael Jeter being interviewed on being Norm Snively

->Leone produces some interesting performances by casting against type. Henry Fonda is the bad guy for once in his career; Charles Bronson is impressively inscrutable as the mysterious good guy; and Jason Robards is a tough guy, believe it or not.

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4772: Dec 21st 2017 at 12:39:43 PM

[up] The Ebert quote seems good. I don't think the first sentence there is necessary.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#4773: Dec 21st 2017 at 1:21:47 PM

I found another quote from johnnyfog, but it's on Quotes.Sequel Gap. It's complaining about Fuller House and I'd normally cut it, but the page would be left completely blank if I did that. The main quote on Sequel Gap works fine and can stay as it is, but can anyone think of some quotes to add for the quote page so I don't have to put it on the cutlist?

Here's the quote I'm talking about:

"I know what they’re doing. Those tricky little tricksters are screwing with Neflix’s emotions, because they can. They probably call up Netflix and say that they’ll do a few episodes of Fuller House and are sending over the contract. When their carrier black crow drops the contract off at Netflix’s offices, Ted Sarandos unrolls it and sees the word SIKE written in blood on it. (Fun fact: “Sike” is 90s for “psych.”) Then the Olsens “bleehehehe” into the cold night air, because fucking with people brings them joy. They do that a couple of times a week."
Michael K., "Netflix Teases That The Olsens May Guest Star On “Fuller House” After All"

edited 21st Dec '17 1:22:33 PM by chasemaddigan

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4774: Dec 22nd 2017 at 12:50:19 AM

Are there any quotes down in the examples that could be used?

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
dsneybuf (Not-So-Newbie)
#4775: Dec 28th 2017 at 12:10:35 PM

Could someone please fix the quote on Guardians of the Galaxy (2015), to show who exactly says it?

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