- Batman: The Animated Series
- Superman: The Animated Series
- Batman Beyond
- Static Shock
- The Zeta Project
- Justice League
He was completely in the dark about Waller's Project Batman Beyond. How much do you want to bet that he might attribute it to long-term infidelity instead? The odds are high.
Furthermore, when describing the project to Terry, Waller said that she specifically looked for a couple with "psychological profiles nearly identical to that of Bruce's parents." The Thomas and Martha Wayne that we all know and love would never get a divorce without some kind of powerful outside influence.
Think about it: Warren McGinnis worked for Bruce's company, where presumably Bruce was running personal background checks on all his employees. Even if Terry and Matt's lineage didn't become apparent then, it's probable that Bruce came across Project Batman Beyond while keeping an eye on/investigating Cadmus. The reason he was so angry about Terry taking the Bat-suit and becoming Batman was that he wanted to stick it to Cadmus for taking his genetic material and interfering without his permission..
- Or he was against the idea of inflicting that sort of life upon Terry at all
- Alternatively, after the events of 'The Once and Future Thing', Bruce saw a future where another Batman followed him. Bruce began investigating possibilities for this future Batman. Either he gave up on the search for a few decades until he ran aforementioned background check on Warren McGinnis, or this glimpse into the future was what prompted him to start investigating Cadmus.
- The main problem is that Project Batman Beyond only began long after Cadmus as an organization had been shelved.
- Perhaps Bruce figured it out later in the series. Checking Terry's background before handing him the mantle planted some suspicions, and the Cadmus tech in Return of the Joker lead him to investigate what other legacies they left.
- Actually, in the Superman episode "In Brightest Day", Kyle Rayner crashes onto an Air Force Base next to a plane marked "Colonel Hal Jordan." It's logical to assume that while he exists, he never became a Green Lantern.
- Its possible he's already a Green Lantern, briefly after Kyle Rayner temporarily resigned and before John Stewart returned from space. Based on the now-defunct fansite.
- Word of God has confirmed that Batman: The Brave and the Bold could be interpreted as Earth-2 to the DCAU's Earth 1/New Earth. Perhaps Hal came from there and only exists on that Earth ala pre-Crisis Alan Scott.
- Adding to this, the DCAU Batman had a cameo at the end of "Night of the Batmen", along with the other Batmen (including Terry McGinnis).
- In my Headcanon, Hal's living it up as a Badass Normal pilot-for-hire, still looking for adventure wherever he can find it (even without powers).
- And the two sequel films, Batman and Harley Quinn and Justice League vs. The Fatal Five confirm Hal does exist in the DCAU and is a Green Lantern.
When Hal appears briefly in "Once and Future Thing part 2", Rex Stewart doesn't disappear from existence. The reasoning is explainable when one remembers that time when John Stewart tried to transfer zones with the Green Lantern corps. The time shift shows (briefly) a reality where John swapped jurisdiction due to starting a new life with Shayera, perhaps patrolling Zur-Eh-Narr. Since Kyle Rayner was not patrolled in any particular zone due to still being in training and Earth needed a Green Lantern, the switch was made to switch John and Hal. Hal Jordan could just be patrolling a different zone in the universe and still exist in the DCAU. Perhaps that crisis Shining Knight made reference to when Eiling was fighting non-super powered beings was Superman helping a planet in Hal's jurisdiction.
- My theory is that Hal never became a Lantern and the time lapse made it so he became a Lantern and John didn't.
- It's plausable that Hal was never a Lantern and instead was the Badass Normal pilot for hire eluded to above but wouldn't a time lapse mean that John never hooks up with Shayera (it is not likely that John met Hawkgirl prior to being a Green Lantern). That would mean that Warhawk either disappears entirely or physically looks different due to having a different Green Lantern dad, which didn't happen when John became Hal.
- This was confirmed in Justice League vs. The Fatal Five, which had a museum about the Legion of Super-Heroes featuring a part dedicated to the League — and a wing for Green Lanterns, which included a statue of Hal.
- A pretty cool idea, though it doesn't explain how the Joker is in his black-eyed form in the flashbacks of Mad Love.
- The flashbacks are Harley's misleading memories, it's her delusions which place the wrong Joker in the time period in question. The events are presumably accurate, but the imagery isn't.
- According to word of god Harley was in a relationship with Ivy when the joker throws her out for long enough times. I say she would become just as obsessive over Ivy.
- Jossed by the events of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker and the episode "Epilogue."
In "The Savage Time" alternate history, a little girl matching Cassie's description is clearly seen among Batman's band of followers which also included Dick, Barbara, and Tim. So Cassie exists within the DCAU. Yet she never becomes Batgirl. So what happened to her?
Now consider that Curare is a super-lethal assassin who displays an uncanny ability to read opponents' movements and never speaks...
- Jossed if you consider the Batman Beyond comic continuation canon, where Curare is Kai-Ro's sister. That also means that Curare hasn't been alive for a long time yet hasn't aged whereas Cass probably ages like a normal human.
- Alternatively, Dwayne created the DCAU, and before him, there was only the comics and the Animated Dakotaverse. He altered reality to be like his comics, only slightly more lighthearted and fit to his tastes, things changed a bit to match the Dakotaverse's pre-existing social and geographical conditions, and the DCAU was born. Nothing that happened in the DCAU before season two of Static actually occured from the point of view of someone from out-of-universe, but the perception of timeflow with regards to cosmic retcons that alter the past and future relative to Comic-Book Time and external retcons is always confusing.
- Or you could just use Milestone Forever's explanation and say that Dharma did it.
Batman Beyond will appear in Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 2 (as show in a Teaser Trailer), if he is the version of Terry from the DCAU (but with the features of the Tomorrowverse) this could be that Crisis.
- Still, does not explain the eyes....
- Contact lenses anyone?
- While this has been Jossed by Word of God, Death of the Author is a perfectly valid way to interpret television too, so take it for what you will.
- An adult who?
- This little guy. And that's all kinds of messed up.
- Joker: See above theory
- Ivy: Maybe one of her plants bit her, and bleached her skin white...
- One of the comics explains that the newer Ivy is just a plant clone made while the real Ivy stopped her life of crime and hid away.
- Riddler: New outfit, and shaved head. After all, in "Riddler's Reform", he DID burn his clothes.
- Scarecrow: New and creepier outfit.
- That or he cut a deal with Neron and got a new look out of it. Even the writers supposedly said that they don't think Scarecrow is really alive any more.
- Perhaps the noose around his neck is exactly what happened to him, and somehow Crane came back.
- It is quite possible that this Scarecrow is an entirely different person all together.
- Mad Hatter: New outfit, and hair is graying.
- So how did he suddenly become half as tall as his BTAS self?
- A Wizard Did It.
- Stress and his lifestyle are withering him. Tetch wasn't a young man when we first met him, and he seems to have a hunch in his back after the revamp. He didn't shrink, just lost weight from the stress of his deteriorating mental state, and his back developed the hunch due to injuries from being thrashed by Batman and the cops, meaning he's lost a few inches height-wise.
- So how did he suddenly become half as tall as his BTAS self?
- Scarface: New puppet, with larger head. For the Ventriloquist, he is losing hair because he is old.
- Or he's losing his hair because of the stress.
- Catwoman: There is a canon explanation for her revamp.
- Killer Croc: New skin tone is because he shedded, and went through "puberty" for the new voice.
- Alternative: Hush showed up and injected him with that mutagen off screen.
- Penguin: Once he went legit and started actually saving money instead of just stealing and losing it, Cobblepot got some plastic surgery.
- Two Face: The operation to restore his face at the end of Second Chance was successful, but the couldn't fix his mind, and he eventually re-scarred his face, leading to the slightly smoother and more skeletal look.
- So, basically, Bruce Timm's Batman Black & White story "Two of a Kind" is DCAU Canon?
- Agent West is voiced by Michael Rosenbaum, the same as the Flash. There's no way that's a coincidence
- Not true while there have been reports about a rumored script, Rich Fogel is on the record saying that "I don't recall that ever being discussed in the room at the time. The staging of the scene in Legacy clearly suggests that they were sleeping together, but whether or not anything came from that, we never really pursued that." in his Watchtower Database interview. The idea seems to stem from a fanfic posted on the Toon Zone forums between 2001 to 2005, which then had elements repeated in an act of wikipedia vandalism in December of 2007. The falsified information remained on the page for the next 3 years until another editor noted Dwayne Mc Duffie had also stated the information to be incorrect in a post from his now defunct forums.
- Or better yet, Toyman is from the future!
I watched it and thought it was strange how he had broken up with Dana but then at the end of the episode, he apparently had a date with her and had an engagement ring. Also, him quitting the Justice League, but then Clark asks him for help on a case. Then it hit me, these are visions Terry is having of what he thinks his life will be like in the near future. Even his big fight with Bruce at the beginning might have been a product of him wanting to confront Bruce (and leave him in pain as he had dropped his medicine and had heart pains).
- Confirmed by Word of God.
Seriously, this would explain so, so, so many things....
After Mask of the Phantasm, she was only seen once in the entire DCAU, as an assassin, ready to kill Terry's parents for Project Batman Beyond. She either A. was an assassin working for money (teleporting would be a very useful trait), Batman, if he was willing to kill, or fell into a grey area betwen good and evil, not knowing what to do, but never being good enough to be become a Justice. Batman never took her out, since it would mean making him face his feelings over her, and admit a very big failure on his part.
The varied tech level is because of the existence of Star Labs, Lex Luther, Bruce Wayne, and other super geniuses bumping up the DCAU's tech development. It looks like it is the 1940-50's because it actually IS the 1940-50's. Advanced robotics, computers, lasers, all discovered and rapidly changing the world. We do know that the tech level by Justice League has far surpassed ours, because the pilot had NASA landing on the Mars. The Schizo Tech of it all is just from some fields advancing faster than others, and taking awhile for it be sold to the public at large. Gotham was also significantly poorer than Metropolis, so the advancement hadn't reached it as fast.
- It actually being the 1940s or 1950s is Jossed by one of the time travel episodes of Justice League, where Vandal Savage tries to take over the world during WWII; Steve Trevor is fighting as a young man, and when the League return to their own time he is in an old age home.
- Watsonian analysis: The 40s-esque cars and tommy guns in BTAS are due to strange style trends in Gotham that call back to it's golden age... and assuming you can avoid jamming issues Tommy Guns had, drums of 50 .45 caliber bullets spitting out at a rate of 600+ rounds per minute is a pretty good gun no matter the era.
- Doyalist Anaylsis: It's just a visual homage to the early comics and the noir style specific to Batman. (But where's the fun in that?)
The Mad Bomber from the Gray Ghost episode of BTAS later became Toyman from Superman. Both are small men with high voices. As villains both use weaponized toys. Toyman's face is never seen, while the Mad Bomber is a one-shot villain, never seen again after his first appearance. Theory is that after being defeated by Batman and Gray Ghost, he returned to Metropolis to avenge his father's death, adopting the identity of Toyman.
While their (real) names are different, this can be explained by Toyman growing up in foster care, at least one of those names is fake.
- The Mad Bomber's is more likely to be an alias cooked up by a toy-themed villain, considering that it's Teddy.
- We see a commemoration of the event in the Flash Museum in JLU. Most likely it was just Flash trying to make himself seem calm and in control when meeting the most famous super powered individual in the world.
- It could be that the museum curator (and the public at large) doesn't know that more than one person has assumed the Flash identity.
- We see a commemoration of the event in the Flash Museum in JLU. Most likely it was just the DCAU is set roughly in a alternate history "modern day" from 1992-2006.
When Batman BTAS premiered in 1992, we see a Gotham that is in many ways set in the 1930s, with tommy guns, zeppelins, black and white TVs, cars etc. But OTOH there is also futuristic sci fi elements such as the Batcomputer, Poison Ivy, robots, superweapons, time travel etc.
The entire technology of the USA is around 60 years behind in most areas, in a dieselpunk hybrid state, where in a few select technologies, they are way ahead of 1992 levels. Meanwhile Gotham is something of a third world slum, within the USA, a den of corruption, inequality, stagnation, poverty.
Meanwhile, Metropolis is something of the Silicon Valley of the DCAU. Lead by the genius of Lex Luthor and the silent longterm partnership with Brainiac. Lex officially announces his partnership with Brainiac in STAS, but it is implied they had been working together longer. Brainiac has totally infiltrated the hardware of Lexcorp. Braniac has a longterm plan to merge with Lex as cyborg entity, as finally reached fruition on JLU.
HARDAC was an evil supercomputer, which was created by Dr. Karl Rossum in BTAS and can be seen as an early influence of Metropolis on Gotham, Rossum could have worked for Lex or Starlabs and attempted to jerryrig his own dieselpunk version of Brainiac.
The role of Lex's genius in advancing human technology centuries into the future, explains why he has Metropolis under his thumb, and is able to get away with everything, and even run for President after being a convicted felon.
The Wayne-Lex partnership would also explain why the Gotham of the New Batman Adventures, while still architecturally and aesthetically set in the 1930s, has much more of the modern futuristic elements of STAS.
After HARDAC was destroyed, any remains were confiscated by the police. Decades later the USA government in the DC universe begins producing Synthoids for espionage, not that anyone knew this as synthoids that could disguise themselves as humans were supposed to be 'illegal.' It's not improbable the Synthoids were based off the Duplicants and HARDAC.
The Joker and Harley are never seen or heard from in Unlimited. Neither are the rest of Batman's rogues gallery, which could be because after the Joker's disappearance, rumors started flying that Batman killed him, so they all decided to get out of the supervillain business. What happened to Tim could have also made Batman see the importance of being proactive, and teaming up with more powerful heroes.
- I'd say jossed, firstly, due to Batman's behavior being the same. Secondly, the original plan for "This Little Piggy" involving the Joker having a cameo. Lastly, Batman and Harley Quinn and Justice League vs. The Fatal Five feature a still active Harley, the former sees Bruce and Dick call the League, and the latter shows Tim is still active (seeing as Miss Martian shifted into Robin to tease Batman and Bruce didn't react with outright anger, just annoyance) and the Joker is still alive (Star Boy talking about "the clown" to Jessica about his stay in Arkham).