edited 15th Jan '13 1:45:24 PM by Fighteer
edited 29th Nov '12 3:42:39 PM by AquaRegia
- Ghirahim: Everything he does in the game is not affected by any other individual. Yes, he's trying to ressurect his master, but his threats and actions are clearly of his own accord. The only issue would be heinousness, as his master basically annihilated the world about a few centuries prior, but given that Ghirahim acts as his sword, that would mean he had a hand in all of it. Even if that were disregarded, reviving the freaking god of evil is pretty bad. The big question that should be asked is how much influence his master had over Ghirahim while he was sealed up. That's about the only thing holding him back, really.
- Ganondorf: He became a Well-Intentioned Extremist later on, but that really isn't the case here. Still, the fact that he became one probably means there's been some good in him all along. I'm leaning cut for this one.
edited 29th Nov '12 5:33:38 PM by DocSharp
edited 30th Nov '12 5:19:46 PM by mlsmithca
- Red Dawn +20: Agree with only keeping Khvostov and cutting the rest.
- Llamas with Hats: Agree with cutting Carl due to being Played for Laughs.
- The Questport Chronicles: Agree with expansion or cut.
- The Irate Gamer: He’s a Designated Hero. Theoretically, we’re intended to not see him as bad… theoretically. Cut.
- Sci Fi Debris: Stub; cut.
- NES Godzilla Creepypasta: I don’t know about cutting Red. If we see Melissa’s spirit and get both her and Red’s confirmation on Red doing those things to her, doesn’t that count as showing the effects of Offscreen Villainy? Plus the monsters Red torments, like Solomon, are shown to be sentient.
- Cold Blood: Agree with keeping Iron Rose.
- Holy Musical B@tman: Agree with keeping Sweet Tooth.
- Marble Hornets: Agree with 32 on waiting for the series to be over.
edited 29th Nov '12 7:25:15 PM by OccasionalExister
edited 30th Nov '12 4:27:01 AM by Iaculus
- Many, perhaps most, villains in the Power Rangers Dark Fic series Prophecies Of The Morphing Grid:
- Dark Specter. The first story is primarily concerned with his rise to power, and we get to see exactly why he earned the title "Grand Monarch of Evil". While having innumerable wars and genocides behind him in his quest for Dimension Lord-dom is bad enough, it's the sheer overkill he applies to our own humble blue marble, it being prophesied to birth his destroyers, that truly pushes him into this territory. Two instances in particular stand out. In the second story, he's been revived and took the galaxy's government, but he's heard that Zordon is also on his way back to the realm of the living. Specter kidnaps all the various babies he thinks might be the reincarnated Zordon, as well as Karone, to confirm their identity. When Karone tells him that none of the babies he has are Zordon, Specter blows up the room full of babies, then teleports Karone back to the Rangers...with her throat cut. Karone gets better, but we're never told if the babies do. The second instance is in a flashback in the third story, where it's revealed that Specter sold advanced alien tech to the Nazis in exchange for them turning Earth over to him when they were done conquering it. They failed to do that, but one can only imagine how much worse he made World War II. He's also behind everyone else on this list, by the way. Interestingly enough, the early parts of the first story give him a bit of a Woobie-ish Backstory that casts him as a former Ranger millions of years ago who accepted the proto-United Alliance of Evil's offer to become their leader so he could get justice for his murdered girlfriend, but the author has gone on record as saying he's grown unhappy with this backstory and plans to write it out next time he revises the fic.
- Most of the Dominus Lords qualify, too. The twelve wealthiest people in the world, they've spent their entire lives subverting the government and business communities of Earth for the UAE so they can take it over more easily. Their ancestors have been doing this for hundreds of generations, going back 10,000 years, as it turns out, too. They're also fond of assassinations, unethical business dealings, and boundless decadence. Two rise above the rest: Gregory Roschin, the Big Bad of the group (actually described as "The Devil himself" by another character), turns out to be, among other things, the person who hired Mirloc to kill Sky's father, and Mr. Stonefeld, who, as a message to get the Rangers to back off from the UAE's business, has a hit put out on their families, and we get to watch (well, read) actual characters from the show die horribly. Also, ever wonder why Norg was the only yeti we see? Yeah, these guys are why. They're apparently based on real people, but good luck finding a list of crimes as long on even the most coldhearted Real Life Corrupt Corporate Executive.
- Which brings us to King Ra. He's the absolute dictator of a race of Lizard People and a high-ranking member of the UAE. He claims to have genetically engineered humanity to be his race's slaves and wholeheartedly believes this gives him every right to abuse them in any way he wants, and does he ever. As it turns out, he's lying through his teeth, but it's then revealed that he's responsible for the Dominus Lords' control of Earth, so he still believes humanity "owes him". Naturally, few tears are shed when the Rangers cut him down, with him whining about how "ungrateful" humans are all the while.
- This next one is a big spoiler. It's Captain Logan, the apparent Big Good from Time Force. How bad is he? Well, it turns out that Year 3000's mutant crime wave problem was actually engineered by him, as a way to unite the people against a common foe and distract them from the dictatorship they're living under. Oh, and he shot Ransik's wife on the day their daughter was born, which drove Ransik back to crime just as he was about to completely atone from killing Dr. Fericks due to The Power of Love. He's also a nigh-unkillable Super Soldier. You can't help but cheer when Ransik jams a vial of liquid magnetite (the Super Soldiers' one weakness) down his throat, causing him to crumble to dust in an extraordinarliy painful-sounding way.
- Then there's Senator John Thorne, leader of an anti-alien hate group. We realize he's this right around the time he has a refugee camp massacred. Most of his private army, used to perform the aforementioned massacre among other things, appear to qualify, too, but as they're just Mooks, it's hard to tell.
- There's also Jacob Russell, an Amoral Attorney-turned-Corrupt Corporate Executive. He bought out one of BioLabs' subsidiary companies and turned it to evil. Not only that, he murdered Trini's Uncle Howard (a character fans of the show would recognize) when he wouldn't sell his research to him, making the death look like a suicide. It's even sort of hinted he greased the authorities' palms so they wouldn't consider the fact that Howard had never displayed suicidal tendencies before.
- Finally, let's give a nod to the small army of Corrupt Corporate Executives, Sleazy Politicians, Amoral Attorneys, crime bosses, drug kingpins, and various other powerful human villains who helped along or at least looked the other way toward the UAE's attempts to conquer Earth. They're all incredibly minor characters, most of whom don't even get names, but selling out your entire planet in order to fatten your wallet is about as despicable as it gets.
edited 30th Nov '12 8:32:54 AM by xie323
edited 30th Nov '12 5:25:06 PM by AquaRegia