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openPotholed Flame Bait on Flame Bait pages.
Ferot_Dreadnaught recently deleted an Internet Backdraft pothole on Horrible.Live Action Films for being Flame Bait as of late, which is weird, considering that So Bad, It's Horrible is also Flame Bait. What is our rule on this?
Edited by OldLadyNightManopenNeed Help with a Page
So... I need help with this workpage for this page: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/EveryApeAndHisBrother
So... quick story. Back before I lost access to an old account of mine, I found this page which was created by this guy who created entries and workpages for fake media. I thought that this was one of them, so I requested it be cutlisted, and it was deleted.
However, I later discovered that Every Ape and his Brother did exist in some capacity on Myspace (https://myspace.com/everyapeandhisbrother/music/songs) so I restored the page. Unfortunately, it seemed I did not do a good job because currently, the entire thing is a mess.
I have a question to ask, then: what should I do? I'm not sure if the whole thing can be reverted back anymore.
P.S. : Though it does exist on Myspace, most of the songs seem to be just written lyrics on Am I Right?.com. Would music on Am I Right?.com be considered tropable under Music?
open So, how to get a Query on Ask the Tropers deleted?
Asking, because originally, this was a blank query that I accidentally sent, and now, I am editing it into an actual query. If I accidentally send blank queries, what can I do to get them deleted?
Edited by DayBreakChannelopenLarge Edits
Out of curiosity, how are "Large Edits" quantified, exactly? I just did a huge clean-up of Characters.Destine Enormity, but it's only marked as a normal edit. Meanwhile, minor word changes to Trivia.Baby Einstein are classified as a "large edit". It doesn't really matter, but I do wonder how it works, because it seems a tad arbitrary.
openQuestion About "Better Than Canon"
So, "Better than Canon"... when should it be added to a YMMV page? Trope description states that it is a Fanon trope, so should it be added only when the fans make it clear that they believe the fanfic in question is better than Canon? Just asking, because the Trope description does not make things clear, and honestly, if it is like what I just wrote, I think this would have to be a trope where Notability actually has to be measured (like Mainstream Obscurity, for example) because in my opinion, any fics can be any fan's Better than Canon. Also, I feel like this is a Trope that could be subject to the same problems as Counterpart Comparision.
And if it has to be what fans regard as Better than Canon, should I delete all Better than Canon examples that does not show that the fans regard it as such?
Edited by DayBreakChannelopenpage needs cleanup
The description on Page Three Stunna needs a lot of cleanup, it's full of natter.
Yes, the description itself.
openAnother Troper with Indentation and Natter issues
mr3urious has issues with indentation and adding natter. I sent notifiers last year, but there's been no improvement.
Their most recent violating edit: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.LuckyTranslation#edit23407493
openProblem troper
Vacuous Sea Urchin has a history of inserting tropes on pages where they don't belong, troping real people, adding in unnecessary things, etc.
- Here they trope Jon M. Chu with Real Men Wear Pink. Troping real people isn't allowed, and Real Men Wear Pink isn't trivia.
- Here they add Tastes Like Diabetes into the main page for a film.
- Here they add The Cast Showoff, trivia, to the main page of a film.
- Here they add an entry to Fan Disservice, with the subpoint "Though if you’re one of those weirdos, this scene might still constitute as Fanservice if you’re sexually turned on by the navel ,abdominal play, and sexual torture." This has since been deleted.
openImpossible task Literature
Hi i would like to know who wrote the article on the topic of Impossible Tasks link https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImpossibleTask
openTropefying creator pages
I understand that we can tropefy the pages of creators as long as its talking about their work. For example, recurring tropes, recurring quotes, recurring themes, and so on. However, I'm seeing that for years, the page of Akira Toriyama has been more about the man personal quirks rather than the tropes he shows in his comics.
I'm sort of confused if I should clean up his page, as while talking about his real life quirks can give context on why he felt the need to write this or that the way he did, the page itself is just tropefying him, which shouldn't happen.
openRed Link bug with Video Example Upload
Yesterday I tried to upload a video example in Ignore the Fanservice. It gave me a database error twice and I just gave up, not thinking much of it.
Today I noticed all the "Media Source" links I gave for the video example look like Red Links now. The sources being: Catherine Zeta-Jones, Sean Connery, Entrapment.
They work just as intended if I click on them but they show up as red links. Not sure if it looks like that just to me or to everyone.
openZeldaQueen64...again
On February 14th, 2018, Tropers.Zelda Queen 64 added natter to NightmareFuel.Junji Ito. ([[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=NightmareFuel.JunjiIto&more=t Page History).
Specifically, they added this entry:
- When Mimi moves into the apartment next to the woman's, she finds a tiny hole the previous occupant had used to spy on the woman. When Mimi takes a look, she sees the woman adjusting her arm. Even worse, the woman hears Mimi gasping and extends her arm to reach through the hole to try to grab Mimi! When Mimi uses a bookcase to cover the hole and locks the door to protect herself, the woman goes outside and extends herself so that she can climb in the window to get at Mimi. Mimi faints shortly after and fortunately wakes up to find everything back to normal, but it's still terrifying to watch. Not to mention, while nothing actually does happen, the idea of being unconscious while such a terrifying being can get at you is plenty horrifying.
The info was later transferred to NightmareFuel.Mimis Ghost Stories, but the indentation remained the same. It also violates spoiler policy since Nightmare Fuel subpages are Spoilers Off.
I'm only just now reporting it because, up until literally today, I was unaware Zelda Queen 64 was active. Even then, their edit history only shows edits going to 2018 after restarting in 2017.
That said, back in 2016, this troper had already been notified of natter, had been suspended for it when they didn't stop, and promised not to do so again in the future.
openTroper with context problems
End Bringer 99 often does not add sufficient (or any) context when putting tropes on pages. Example:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.TrueTail
- Added Large Ham with no context at all
- Added Attention Whore with minimal context
I've sent a context notifier in the past, but there's been no improvement since.
openSweeping changes without discussion
A troper just made some sweeping changes to how Warhammer: Age of Sigmar was organised without any prior discussion (and in the ensuing discussion, the change was called out for making no sense at all; see the discussion page for more context). Would it be acceptable to revert the page before a consensus could be made?
openZCEs
Stop me if you've heard this one before.
Troper can't context; specifically, The Best Troper In The World, history here. They've the tendency to just plop down trope names without anything added, which is a real bad sign considering they've been around since '16 and I've sent them a notifier recently that they've ignored to post this.
Other examples are here, here, and here.
I'd wait longer normally, but given their age, blatant ignorance of my PM, and fitting username...
open Sanders Sides Web Original
never mind, couldn't find it before, but I can now.
Edited by Alden2openWhat exactly is the difference between these two tropes?
Seems like one is the act itself and the other is the person performing it, but for the most part they reference the same scenes and seem to overlap a bit too much.
Edited by DarthWalrusopenDoes entries on indexes need context?
Earlier this year, all the entries on Ecchi that didn't have context were commented out.
I was under the belief that indexes don't require context for their entries. Am I mistaken?
For example, in Action Genre, none of those entries have context. Note: I believe Ecchi is also a genre, should that be a factor in determining whether context is required.
openthe reason you suck speech quotes
when i went to go edit on the said page, it gave a warning saying that the page is too long, is there a way i can separate the quotes?
Tightwire is removing all the examples of the work FanFic.Prison Island Break in trope pages.