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openEverythingIsBigInTexas - Trope or Useful Notes
Howdy, long time troper but first time forum-er. Sorry I don't know exactly where to bring up this question, so bringing it here and hoping if this isn't the right space that I can get pointed to a better one.
The Everything Is Big in Texas page seems like it may have drifted away from its original purpose. I think that it's meant to be a trope page about exaggerated Texas stereotypes, but it seems to have morphed into a de facto Useful Notes page for the real state of Texas, down to being listed under both the National Stereotypes index and with all the other state Useful Notes pages on the index section for The United States. It seems to me like there should be a separate Useful Notes page for Texas that fits the model of the other states and that much of the current page should probably be migrated over there so that the actual trope can be described more clearly. If it's not meant to be a trope page, though, should it just be listed under Useful Notes?
Edited by ClaystripeopenEdit war on RoleEndingMisdemeanor.Music
Dongwa Chan added the following example to RoleEndingMisdemeanor.Music yesterday:
- This almost happened to Simon Le Bon of Duran Duran. On July 11, 2018, Le Bon was accused by a psychotherapist named Shereen Hariri of groping her while she stood behind him at a April 10, 1995 meet-and-greet at a record store named The Wherehouse. Le Bon denied the accusations, and photographic evidence surfaced revealing that the encounter wouldn't have been possible since there was "no room" for him to grope her, since he was sitting close to the wall. This caused many Duran Duran fans to label Shereen a liar and fraudster.
It was then deleted later that day by thelivingtoad with the edit reason ""almost happening" means it's not an example of this trope."
Today Dongwa Chan re-added it with the edit reason "Its an aversion actually but is still worth noting".
What should be done about the Edit War? Furthermore, should we keep the example, or remove it?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonopenVandalism on Critical Role Pages Web Original
Slyde has removed all information from Awesome.Critical Role Ongoing Arc and Funny.Critical Role Ongoing Arc without an edit reason. Both pages now have an empty folder labeled Episode 125.
openGreen Lantern Ring
I found the page Green Lantern Ring, which appears to be a disambiguation page and has no examples, yet isn't on the Ambiguity Index, is in other indexes meant for actual tropes, has a page quote, laconic, and image links, and doesn't instruct tropers to replace it with a more specific trope.
So, what's the deal? Is it an actual trope, or a disambiguation page?
Edited by ZuxtronopenWeird shippy entries Live Action TV
I'm a bit concerned about Julia 1984's troping of Drake & Josh. Most of it is fine, but there's some select posts that really seem to suggest Shipping Goggles between the two lead characters...who are stepbrothers on a children's show.
They added an entry to Flirty Stepsiblings about them (and I presume they also added the video example), which comes across as cherrypicking a few moments of comedic Homoerotic Subtext, some of which isn't even that (i.e. twisting their friendship breakup or their platonic Operation: Jealousy to sound romantic). I discussed this in video examples and it was inconclusive whether Flirty Stepsiblings includes unintentional subtext (the description suggests that it does but this seems like you have to squint to really see the dynamic).
On its own that'd be enough, but they also included the Flirty Stepsiblings bit on their entry for the show on Opposites Attract (which does not require a romantic relationship).
I already asked about this on the "Is this an example?" thread and one person said it was probably Shipping Goggles, and I agree, but I wanted to get more opinions and also keep an eye out in case this person edits more things from a weirdly-shippy perspective. They seem like a generally decent editor otherwise though.
Edited by mightymewtronopenHow do I know when to put folders?
So the page Not the intended use (Zantetsuken Reverse) is getting quite lengthy, since it has three works listed in there, but I'm not sure if I should add folders or not. When do I know the correct time to put a folder?
openRe-added examples
woerer1 re-added two examples to UnbuiltTrope.Mythology And Religion that was previously deleted for being complaining and also not examples of the trope (ATT thread here). There was no explanation given for the re-adding. This was a few weeks ago but just noticed it now.
Edited by nw09open One Mario Limit TRS
There is an active crowner ongoing for One Mario Limit to decide its placement and scope. This is just an announcement; do not reply to this query.
openReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming and a Halo franchise example with possible spoilers Videogame
My main concern is how to write this so as to avert creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler. The Flood in Halo is very clearly named after the Genesis flood narrative, but how would I go about adding this in to the page without creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler since in the backstory, the Flood were effectively created as a means to purge the Forerunners, who retaliated by creating an Ark to preserve most species?
Edited by EclipseMTopen Video from around the late 1990s
It’s a video where two boys around the age of 25 are on a golf course saying how there entrepreneurs and how they play golf when they finish work. They then decided to plaster someone’s house and plastered the Ceiling with a broom also they were doing a job on a garage wall and forgot to put a door in and the owner who looked ard got mad. Please could anyone find this out around 1997 my parents remember watching it so around then.
open WandaVision RealityEnsues Live Action TV
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Series.WandaVision
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Series.WandaVision
The troper Alphatater deleted the entire Reality Ensues section for Series.Wanda Vision, writing see Discussion for the edit reason and then posted there reason in the discussion on top of the discussion. Now first of all, I am not sure if that is kosher to do it that way, but I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they thought if anyone disagreed, the discussion was already set up.
Secondly, I know Reality Ensues can be shoed in and I suspect that they are right but their reasoning doesn't sit well with me: "They describe fantastical situations that have never and can never happen in "reality.""
The reason I am bringing this here is, I am still shaky about how to describe the way Reality Ensues works. It has nothing to do with whether or not the situation is fantastical, right?
Edited by LadyErinNYopen Does Tommy Turnbull from Robotboy fall under Love Makes You Dumb
Tommy has a crush on Bambi, which falls under All Love Is Unrequited considering her personality and that she subjected him to Humiliation Conga one time, which brought him to tears (even Robotboy thinks that she's bad). However, he continues to pine for her. What's also baffling is that Tommy is very Oblivious to Love regarding Lola having a huge crush on him despite how very obvious she is about that. Does Tommy fall under Love Makes You Dumb or otherwise?
open Unfortunate pothole
In the Real Life folder for I Have No Son!, it mentions that there are parents who kick their children out for being LGBT. The thing is, the "being gay, bisexual, or transgender" part is potholed to Felony Misdemeanor, which implies it's wrong, when that is not the case. Should I remove this pothole?
openPremature DMoS page
DethroningMoment.Animerica got created by a troper named JHD with the edit reason "I made a page for Animerica. No examples yet, please feel free to add some!". I don't think I even need to say what's wrong here. Should it go straight to the cutlist?
Edited by Kirby0189open A troper named Alphatater
Alphatater essentially took the Power Rangers Dino Fury page "hostage", deleting several entries citing ZCE even though they are explicitly confirmed. Check the edit history.
openWhat to do with this?
YMMV.The Mandalorian S 1 E 1 Chapter 1 The Mandalorian
- "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: The Running Gag of IG-11 trying to self-destruct when his situation goes remotely south turns into this after Chapter 8, where he uses his self-destruct mechanism for a Heroic Sacrifice in a scene that isn't played for humor.
Recap pages are Spoilers Off, so when to we allow or not allow spoilers for later works? Removing the spoiler part would leave "The Running Gag of IG-11 trying to self-destruct when his situation goes remotely south turns into this after Chapter 8." which sounds like a Zero-Context Examples as it doesn't explain how.
Also, as part of the same season they were written alongside each other so it was probably intentional by the writer. Does "Funny Aneurysm" Moment count for deliberate examples or is that Chekhov's Gag played for drama.
open Creating an Image Pickin' Thread Western Animation
Hello, I have a questions that is related to the Image Pickin' Threads. Are tropers allowed to start another thread that is the same as my last one? The reason why is because there were not a lot of people replying to it and I truly feel it is necessary to include images into the recap page of The Clone Wars. The main reason being because the images I selected for the thread represent what each season is about and some of the other Star Wars have a least one image in their recap page. I also believe that creating another Image Pickin' Thread that is about the recap page of The Clone Wars will help to provide a better census. Thoughts or comments? Please respond to my question whenever you can.
openCreepy edits and possible sockpuppetry
So, on Rumble Roses, there's a troper named Homelesss who added very... slobbery... content to the page. Now I know that what he's adding is borderline on its own, but I think he might be a sockpuppet of a troper who was recently blocked for fetishposting named Ninja Ibukis Bum.
I rewrote some of it, but I thought I'd mention it here in case a mod thinks it needs intervention.
Edited by McJeff
I love the Lucky 13 episode of RAGU, and was sad to see the recap page was cut. Is it safe to recreate it, and if so, what can I do to prevent it from being cut again afterwards?