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openPossible agenda based editing?
This edit on Gina Carano's page appears to have changed a relatively neutral Gizmodo article reporting on her firing to "a sympathetic report" that appears to claim her firing is the result of "crowd-sourced McCarthyism". The description even states "Replace early news item with later work of actual journalism". Seems rather suspicious.
I apologize for another report on this. There seems to be a lot of agenda-based editing as of late and I simply want to try help reduce it.
openAvengers without a team
The TV series WandaVision and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier are starred by members of the Avengers, but the Avengers as a team do not appear in them. Should they be included in the Avengers franchise page?
openRakdos is making very political edits
A troper called Rakdos is making a lot of politically biased edits.
Here, he replaced "Bill O'Reilly" with "John Oliver", and erased another entry that makes it clear how the character resembles Bill O'Reilly.
Here he says that "Since Trump stepped down after losing the election, John continues his biased rants against conservative and right-wing views." And his edit reason is "He has not stopped his bullshit about conservatives and right-wingers in generals."
The worst example is here, where he changed "undocumented immigrants" to "illegal immigrants" once, and changed plain "immigrants" to "illegal immigrants." He also removed the word "filthy" from "filthy detention camps."
The edit he deleted here does break ROCEJ in its phrasing, I'll give him that, but his edit reason, "Political bitching about President Trump being "sinister" by holding a light orb." isn't very nice.
Here he claims that "Systematic racism is a lie, made up to justify rioting burning shops that had nothing to do with the "problems" down. BLM are the White Fang." [The White Fang are an evil group from RBWY.]
In short, the guy's clearly here to make the wiki conform to his political agenda.
Edited by MichaelKatsuroopenTroper spamming low-quality TLP drafts
jrpimentel has created three TLP drafts in less than one hour, each of which is nothing but a single sentence with no laconic or examples.
Additionally, they all have poor titles that don't intuitively match their descriptions, and some of them might be tropes we already have.
Edited by Zuxtronopen Retcon and Rewrite?
While I moved Retcon entries from a characters sheet to the work's trope page, I notice that it also has entry for Rewrite (new to me). I take a quick look and my first thought was "So most of these Recon are actually Rewrite." but then I noticed that Laconic.Retcon say "Previously established story events and/or facts get removed or rewritten.", which mean it's exactly same thing.
My best guess is that the laconic page is wrong, but as far as I remember, that's how most Retcon examples are, altered established backstory. Look like we either have yet another massive case of Square Peg, Round Trope at hand, or the Rewrite trope need better definition (or I just misunderstand it).
BTW, Rewrite is far less popular of the two, only has 188 articles linked to it compared to Retcon's grand 8171 links.
Edited by KuruniopenDuplicate Work /Work Name question Literature
Okay, so here's the situation. Earlier I made a work page for Dragonkeeper as I had mistakenly thought it didn't have one yet; an oversight on my part. As I was adding indexes, I realised there was already a page called Dragon Keeper Trilogy, which is about the same series. Normally I would just get the page I created cut, however I feel I should mention that the title isn't correct. I'm pretty certain that Dragonkeeper is intended as one word (that's how it's titled on the author's website, Wikipedia, the covers of the novels I've seen; although there is one edition I've seen that treats it as two words). It's also no longer a trilogy, as it has expanded to include four more books as of 2017. Therefore I'm wondering if it would possible to merge the pages into one for accuracy and a more complete description. But I'm not sure how to go about requesting this, so I would appreciate advice.
openCommenting out ZCEs
Is it alright to just go around commenting out ZC Es on various pages? Even on pages like Names to Run Away From or Names to Trust Immediately, where it seems like the default is just examples that give a character name with little/no context?
openNamespace question Literature
PrincessPandaTrope moved the Gameknight 999 Series, a series of unofficial Minecraft novels, to the Fanfic namespace. I had originally put them under the Literature namespace because while they weren't officially sanctioned by Mojang or Microsoft they were still published novels I found in the library, and are currently published under Simon & Schuster, the third-largest US publishing company.
What namespace would be correct?
EDIT: Fanfic.Diary Of A Minecraft Zombie is also under that namespace despite also being published for real.
Edited by lalalei2001openMisnamed and empty work pages Print Comic
So it seems that some people are jumping the gun on some comics coming out as part of DC Infinite Frontier, with one page being misnamed and another being trope-less.
Justice League 2021 isn't the correct name, because the year indicates what year the series starts, not a run. This comic is just another writer's run on Justice League (2018), not a new series onto itself. It should be renamed something like Brian Michael Bendis' Justice League or Justice League (Infinite Frontier) to keep with convention. Also, one of the examples is just kinda weird, so maybe the person was jumping the gun in making it? The Mythology Gag is just... a thing that happened before. It isn't so much a gag as a thing they're doing again.
I just created The Flash (Infinite Frontier), since it is just a new creative team's run on the previous series, but is large enough a change in status quo that it deserves its own page. I think that the page I mentioned above should be moved to Justice League (Infinite Frontier).
The other thing is Green Lantern 2021. It's properly named, since the series is starting in 2021 and not a continuation of another series' numbering or anything. However, that page has no tropes at all and has been like that for a month now.
open Political references
I feel like any and edits relating to the COVID-19 Pandemic should be deleted, as it is a flame war waiting to happen, especially as many conservatives feel the case numbers were fudged to keep mask mandates, forced vaccination, and lockdowns going on in more liberal states or states led by "RINO" governors, and liberals feel the conservatives ignored the advice given by the CDC and the NAIA, and made the pandemic go on longer than it could have.
openRude self-recommender.
I caught Bearquarter2008 (also known as Mitchell Movie Productions) anonymously self-recommending his own fics again on FanficRecs.Dexters Laboratory. When I deleted the fic and sent him a PM telling him he wasn't allowed to recommend his own fics on Fanfic Recs pages (specifically directing him to use the forum thread linked to on Fanfic Recommendations instead), he responded with a short, rude message.
Edited by N8han11openIt's NOT Pepe Le Pew! Western Animation
In light of all the attention he's currently getting I've been reading up on Pepe's mentions here on TV Tropes...
Every mention of the WB short "Odor of the Day" insists on calling it a Pepe Le Pew cartoon...when it's NOT! The skunk in the toon is a generic Warner Bros cartoon skunk who somewhat resembles Pepe, but the character is so totally, obviously not him it irritates me to no end.
I'd like to correct these erroneous mentions but there doesn't seem to be any editing option for Pepe's YMMV or other pages listing his appearances. Any suggestions as how to remedy this, or should I just suck it up and live with it?
open Vandalism report
User bru999qgepu has blanked the page for the trope I Gave My Word. As far as I can tell it was an unsanctioned act of vandalism. It appears to be their only edit under this username.
openIs it okay to add an captions links to hide spoils of the character current state? Live Action TV
I been seeing some character page where you are allowed to do a caption image to see the character after the Time Skip or something like that but there's some problems I've been seeing. In Kamen Rider Saber, someone change two charater image with any captions links, which show thier appearances that is a huge spoiler (One who return after some circumstance and one who became a Kamen Rider). Can I change thier image to the old image and link the new one to the caption links just like other character pages?
Edited by BubblepigopenBatman in the DC Animated Universe Western Animation
Troper lcrossmk8 added The Hero to the DC Animated Universe Batman's character page under the following context:
"Not as much as Superman, but honestly, he still counts. In general, Batman is more of a traditional Cape, but with a cynical twist on doing the right thing."
I have to ask, is this valid? The Hero is a character who, well, acts as a paragon of moral values. Batman is obviously a heroic character, but his moral values, both in the cartoons and the comics, leave a lot to be desired. What do you say?
openRecreating cut page
Is it okay if I recreate Derek Webster's page since it was cut for being a stub?
openEdit war on Captain Planet YMMV Western Animation
Last month, Sedaver added this to Captain Planet and the Planeteers under Harsher in Hindsight. I removed it after taking it to the clean up thread, noting in the edit reason that it violated the ROCEJ. Today, I found that they had readded it, with this edit reason:
This entry was meant to refer to the Capitol Riot itself, not Trump.
Edited by fraggleloveropenIs BeanWringer gone?
So, uh...I definitely don't ask these types of questions, but...
Last week or so, some Bean Wringer person showed up, and...he may or may not have reminded me of horrible people I used to hang out with (well, more like definitely). He just really made me uncomfortable (which is why I dropped the f-bomb when I saw his messages, something I don't usually do), which is definitely also why I decided to take a break from the site in general. So, I just wanna say this...is he gone so I don't have to worry about him anymore?
On the Wall of Text Cleanup thread, I brought up the What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? example for Ghosts of the Future for a Hedge Trim, and then we went into a dispute over whether the fact that the creator, Evan Stanley, is an official Sonic The Hedgehog comic artist and writer is another reason the Sonic fancomic could be mistaken for kids, thus worth mentioning.
I personally think it should, since I think the fact the creator is associated with the official Sonic franchise makes it more likely for the comic to be mistaken to be as kid-friendly as the official comics, not to mention Stanley stated that some people assumed the fancomic was official. However, other tropers disagreed, as they think it's a very mundane occurrence for Promoted Fanboys to have created kid-unfriendly Staff Created Fanwork before-hand and that just because people assume it's official doesn't meant they assume it's for kids.
I'd like input from more tropers on this.
Also, should the fact that one of the pages' description on DeviantArt has a joke clearly about and mentioning Shadow having an erection? Stanley considers her DeviantArt gallery to be the main host, so I think that's part of the work and should be mentioned. (I am very paranoid about the exposure of sexual content to children, because there are laws prohibiting the deliberate distribution of obscene material to children.)
Edited by PrincessPandaTrope