Throughout this site, some tropers have a habit of adding in potholes and references to their favorite reviewers in entries, e.g. "Come see (reviewer)'s take on it here!"
Not only is it often unnecessary, but in some cases if the critic in question is a Caustic Critic it can be used to invite complaining, on top of crossing over into Reviews Are the Gospel territory since these tropers often treat these reviewers as if their opinion is fact.
Per this thread in Wiki Talk
, this thread has been created in Long-Term Projects to clean up this kind of thing and Reviews Are the Gospel-type stuff in general.
REMEMBER: This criteria, made by mightymewtron, should be followed for knowing when to keep reviewer potholes:
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:28:10 PM
Those can all be cut.
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In regards to the About Schmidt part, cut out all the Ebert mentions.
Edited by DongwaChan on Aug 10th 2022 at 9:18:39 AM
The Unknown
From YMMV.Super Mario Sunshine under Alternate Character Interpretation:
- When Princess Peach says "Mama? Mama Peach? I'm your... Mama?" to Bowser Jr, she was most likely intended to be expressing confusion and disbelief at a ridiculous, bizarre delusion (more like "You think I'm your mama?"). However, between her ditzy, vacant delivery and the fact that she never outright denies the claim, quite a few fans (including SomecallmeJohnny and Caddicarus) have interpreted this infamous scene as "Peach did it with Bowser and is genuinely considering the possibility of Bowser Jr. being her son."
The reviewer mentions add basically nothing except some parabombing.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Angry babby
It's a theory that goes waaaaay beyond those two guys so I'd say cut then.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
The Unknown
Cutting.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Bringing up the following examples from Artistic License – Sports:
- The film Agent for H.A.R.M. features a character heading to the "judo range". The film is best known for appearing on Mystery Science Theater 3000, where Mike and the Bots tell her to grab her aikido rifle.
- In the 1994 Disney version of Angels in the Outfield, during the climactic final game, announcer Ranch Wilder says the Chicago White Sox will have the "heart of the order" - which usually refers to the team's 3-4-5 hitters - leading off the ninth inning against the Angels. Kit Keezy ends up being the sixth batter in the inning, which would mean he was eighth in the lineup. Not the most likely spot for the Sox to place the guy who's leading the league in RBI. In fact, had the script called for Wilder to say the "bottom" of the lineup - the 7-8-9 hitters - that would have put Keezy in the more likely 3 spot.
- CollegeHumor did a parody video in the style of an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary, lampshading other errors:
Tim Kurkjian (ESPN's Baseball Tonight): [discussing an inning with the Oakland A's where the MLB imploded] It was the first time in Major League history that a catcher, a first baseman, and a pitcher all made an error on the same play in which the pitcher also hit them all in the face with a baseball glove!
- CollegeHumor did a parody video in the style of
Am I a weirdo?
The second example is easy. Just delete everything in the second-level bullet point as natter. For the first one, I'd just replace the second sentence with, "Seeing as judo is a martial art focused on grappling, it is unlikely to require a 'range'."
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.
Now we're so young, but we're probably gonna die
Is the "notable Simpsons web reviewer Mike Amato even outright admitted in his review he started to lose interest fairly quickly upon realizing they weren't going to return to it" part of YMMV.The Simpsons S 16 E 4 She Used To Be My Girl needed?
The things in my dreams wish they could chase me!
I don't think that really adds anything, so I'd say cut it. (Also I've never heard of this so supposedly "notable" reviewer, but that's neither here nor there.)
Bringing up the following example from Television Portal:
- The infamous cover art for Sonic Live, which had a very off-looking Sonic reaching out of the TV to greet two actual children.
Dan Avidan: I have had...nightmares. Almost exactly like this one.
Easy cut.
Angry babby
I wouldn't mind it on a Nightmare Fuel page, but as is, it's encouraging complaining.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Bringing up the following example from Conflict Ball:
- Bride Wars has the two protagonists have their weddings for the same date and the same place. The two have been best friends for years, but they now suddenly don't want their identical dream weddings to be combined in what would be an awesome double wedding. Bad Movie Beatdown had a field day pointing out how arbitrary it was, to the point of a gaping Plot Hole.
Remove the last sentence entirely. "Character doesn't do what I think they should do" is misuse of Plot Hole.
Bringing up the following example from Cool World:
- WTH, Casting Agency?: Although he did an adequate job portraying Jack Deebs as a total wuss, Gabriel Byrne isn't most people's idea of what a gonzo underground cartoonist who hates humanity and wants to live in a world of cartoony chaos and sexy cartoon women looks like (someone who looked like or could make himself over like Robert Crumb would be more appropriate). Despite this, it's a lot better than the originally intended idea of Brad Pitt for the role of Jack Deebs, which would have been totally wrong. YMMV because if anyone could sell someone who can and does do cartoon women in real life, it's Brad Pitt.
- Additionally, The Nostalgia Critic noted that Bryne not portraying the animated Jack is questionable, as his character and performance are essentially replaced by someone completely different for the climax, which means that any arc or development that Bryne may have tried giving the role are completely gone for the climax and ending.
Cut the second bullet, then take the rest to the "Removing complaining, bashing and other negativity from the wiki" thread.
Bringing this up from the professional wrestling sub-page for Troubled Production. I also think it could count for the complaining thread.
- Because TNA's heyday (so far) happened in the mid-to-late 2000s, it naturally became a font of memes and snarky internet criticism, mostly from the Observer podcasts, 420chan's /wooo/, and Wrestle! Wrestle! By 2010, even the jaded blogger demo had moved on to better things, primarily because 1) all the jokes had been told, and 2) we'd already seen this story play out, scene-by-scene, in WCW ten years earlier. Right down to the company flushing its own collateral just to elevate some old guys.
WrestleCrap: The main event of the evening was to feature Sting vs. the man who was probably the hottest merchandise seller and most popular wrestler the company ever had, Jeff Hardy. So they turned Jeff heel. Bang.◊
Bringing this up from Obvious Crossover Method:
- As Chris Sims of Comics Alliance remarked, "If Robin Hood served under King Richard I during the Third Crusade, then he and Altair from Assassin's Creed were in the same place at the same time. You can have that one for free, fan-fiction writers."
Angry babby
Obvious Crossover Method is so much of a YMMV item in disguise that the reviewer quote doesn't feel like a detriment here.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Maybe I'll wick check it and argue for a YMMV move.
I agree with that, to be honest.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
Obvious Crossover Method seems to belong in the YMMV namespace as they are primarily determined by the audience rather than by the creator.
Kirby is awesome.
I agree with that.
I'm Sad Frogerson.
I found a few references to Linkara and Suede's crossover reviews of the Pokemon movies on some of their pages, and I think they should probably be cut:
On Pokémon 2000:
- There Is No Kill Like Overkill: When Lugia first appears, the three Titans shoot it down quickly and then proceed to seal up the hole that Lugia came out of. As Linkara said in the review of the movie, "I think you got him!".
And from Pokémon 4Ever:
- Broken Aesop: The movie's Deus ex Machina ending is why Linkara hates the movie so much, as pointed out in his crossover review with That Dude in the Suede. Why bother bringing up the danger of permanently wrecking the environment when they make the whole thing crash and burn by bringing the once dead Celebi back to life?
I think the There Is No Kill Like Overkill entry can just have the last sentence cut, but the Broken Aesop entry needs to be rewritten entirely. Thoughts?
The Star Wars Holiday Special has a lot of RiffTrax examples.