Redirect discussion thread

Myth And Legend retarget from Oral Tradition to Mythology?

Or something other operation? Only ~14 inbounds. No wicks.

Disambig with Legend and Mythology?

Just discovered Podcast.Myths And Legends exists...

Edited by Malady on Feb 10th 2022 at 6:33:12 AM

I support a disambiguation between Mythology, Oral Tradition, Legend and Podcast.Myths And Legends. Maybe Fairy Tales too.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 11th 2022 at 12:14:55 PM

I think I mentioned it in some other places, but I'd make an official suggestion here: I request Evil Albino and Heroic Albino to cease to be redirected to Albinos Are Freaks, and by extension, be redlinked.

The history is that Albinos Are Freaks was created in relation to two TRS requests regarding Heroic Albino (here) and Evil Albino (here). The consensus is that Albinos Are Freaks is to be created to catch examples from those two tropes where albinism is an intentional design element, as evidenced by in-universe discrimination.

However, Evil Albino and Heroic Albino were kept as redirects to Albinos Are Freaks to catch inbounds, despite the very fact that Albinos Are Freaks is a completely different trope.

My impression through wick patrolling of this trope is that, because Evil Albino and Heroic Albino are still bluelinked, many tropers continue to treat those two tropes as valid tropes rather than effectively being cut. This also has the side effect of decaying Albinos Are Freaks, as many tropers merely thought of it as a merger of Evil Albino and Heroic Albino—thus the examples on the trope pages are correct while a certain proportion of the wicks aren't. I've seen cases of tropers reacting rather badly for my removing Evil Albino on a trope list, because they insists it still exists.

Thus I request Evil Albino and Heroic Albino to be cut rather than redirected.

Edited by SamCurt on Feb 11th 2022 at 12:20:49 PM

- They both have over 9K inbounds... But very few wicks.

Myth And Legend is handled! Thanks, 𝕋𝕒𝕓𝕤!

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Onto Divine Gender Flip. It currently targets Divine Race Lift.

I get that they're both "showing a deity with a standard appearance in a form people don't expect to see it in", but the name is Divine Race Lift, not Unexpected Divine Appearance, and race is very different from gender...

Redirect to Gender Flip or something else?

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Film.Rambo: Retarget to Franchise? Turn into a disambig between Film.Rambo IV and Franchise.Rambo? Something else?

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Brain Bug: Retarget from Plot Tumor to Puppeteer Parasite?

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Crazy Laugh: Retarget from Evil Laugh to Laughing Mad?

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Hit Points As Body Armor: Retarget from Didn't Need Those Anyway! to Body Armor as Hit Points?

Edited by Malady on Feb 12th 2022 at 10:19:15 AM

That was because I've been cleaning them since December. Is it needed to initiate a wick check in cases like this?

We usually don't want to remove the target of something with so many inbounds.

If we were to change the Albino redirects, I'd disambig them between targets for why Albinos are Heroic / Villainous.

Mark of the Supernatural seems to be one reason, as said in Albinos Are Freaks.

Then there's how it looks like Undeathly Pallor, White and Red and Eerie All Over, and the other tropes mentioned on its current target.

But in that case, that is why they're targeting Albinos Are Freaks.

Worst case, I'd advise an Albino disambig, which would be basically a Definition-only of Albinos Are Freaks?

Edited by Malady on Feb 11th 2022 at 9:51:00 AM

Last import from my redirect discussion thread... Stellar Theme Naming... Currently going to Stellar Name.

If someone ever wanted to make a Astronomical Theme Naming trope, which I thought was a draft...

Anyway, if they did, is it currently an issue how hard is it to find that Stellar Theme Naming exists?

Do you think Straw Christian is a good redirect of Holier Than Thou? It doesn't have wicks, and I think it isn't exactly what the trope is about, since Holier Than Thou may encompass other religions, besides ideologies and the such. It just seems they are different concepts that sometimes overlap.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 16th 2022 at 6:13:33 AM

I'd say it's too narrow and potentially misleading per your reasoning.

Chinese Dress redirects to Qipao. It's overly broad; there are several other "Chinese dresses" that aren't that.

Yeah, I don't think that's a redirect we need.

Jurassic Park (1993) is redirect to Jurassic Park. However, all the subpages of the movie are under the 1993 label, like NightmareFuel.Jurassic Park 1993, while the subpages of Jurassic Park are used for the franchise as a whole. So shouldn't be the other way around, with Jurassic Park being a redirect to Jurassic Park (1993)?

Edited by good-morning on Feb 20th 2022 at 1:21:06 PM

If the subpages are already there, might as well.

What Accent? to redirect to Vot Ocksent?? I suspect the latter is not thriving in part because of the Funetik Aksent required to find it.

I think having that as a redirect will help

Cut Chinese Dress, made . The latter has a lot of uncrosswicked on page examples, nobody drag it to TRS just yet.

Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 21st 2022 at 11:29:11 AM

I want a redirect for Celestial Deadline that shows its flexiblity in not just being Race Against the Clock situations, like how certain spells need it to be a full moon or something.

But I have no idea what to call it.

Celestial Requirement?

Or is a redirect a bad idea? Especially given how any time requirement can be turned into a deadline if someone's racing to perform the action?

It sounds like any time a god/higher power/magic just needs something. A more descriptive title could use the word "time" somewhere.

"At This Time", perhaps... Although that sounds sorta vague.

Anyone against moving Clan Of Hats to target Gang of Hats instead of Planet of Hats? Since I moved its only example to Gang, as seen here, and corroborated by the Gang of Hats trope page?

Then there's the Culture Of Hats redirect.

Edited by Malady on Feb 26th 2022 at 5:30:29 AM

I keep forgetting that the proper page for Regicide is The Kingslayer. Would a redirect be a good idea or they're not completely the same thing?

They are the same thing. Regicide is just the proper term for it, so it works fine as a redirect.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 2nd 2022 at 2:56:25 PM

Good idea . The site have other more general redirects for broad concepts too, such as Anthropophage for I'm a Humanitarian.

Edited by good-morning on Mar 3rd 2022 at 7:16:40 AM

Ambiguously Gay has G Rated Gay as a redirect, but isn't the latter's concept closer to something like Hide Your Lesbians?

We're not sure it fits either one, tbh

I don't think it's a good redirect for either.

Also, I am going to create Regicide as a redirect to The Kingslayer now.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 3rd 2022 at 8:27:02 AM