Duplicate tropes discussion thread

How is Married to the Job distinct from Workaholic?

The former is about a character prioritizing their job over relationships while the latter applies to any character who is a very, very dedicated worker.

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What's the difference between Challenge Gamer and Challenge Run? Challenge Gamer seems to be about people that do challenge runs, so wouldn't every example on Challenge Gamer be an example in Challenge Run then? Also, wouldn't it be an Audience Reaction, because it's not actually part of the game?

Challenge Gamer is supposed to describe a type of person, like Scrub and "Stop Having Fun" Guys.

... Why the examples are all not about this concept at all is beyond us.

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What's the difference between Challenge Run and Self-Imposed Challenge?

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"

Self-Imposed Challenge is self-imposed, it's a thing the gamer decides to do on their own, the kind of stuff you can make into a VG Myths episode. Challenge Run is a mode built into the game.

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Isn't Vaporware just Development Hell but for video games?

The Development Hell article certainly thinks so, it outright says "The Video Game equivalent of this is Vaporware."

We can't immediately find any actual differences. "Vaporware" is a preexisting term meaning, essentially, "software that never leaves Development Hell".

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jun 10th 2021 at 6:20:09 AM

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

Vapor Ware is a pre-existing term for any type of software, not just video games.

Is there a difference between Anachronic Order and Non-Linear Sequel? Or can they generally refer to the same thing? Both tropes are used in VideoGame.Devil May Cry:

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• Anachronic Order: For the original continuity, the major installments are chronologically arranged in this order: Manga 3 > 3 > 1 > Anime > Novel 2 > 2 > 4 > Novel 5 > 5. The original confirmation of 5 taking place after 2 was courtesy of French gaming site ActuGaming's interview with director Hideaki Itsuno, and 5 producer Matthew Walker's responding tweet to a fan's question. However, Capcom TV later streamed a quick summary video that put 2 before 4, causing much confusion until Walker confirmed it on Twitter.
• Non-Linear Sequel: 3 comes before 1 before 2 before 4 before 5. DmC was originally a prequel to 3 before it eventually became a reboot.

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In general, both examples are just explaining the canon order of the games/side materials (the Anachronic Order example has more context, but doesn't mention the Alternate Continuity game, while Non-Linear Sequel does mention the Alternate Continuity game, but has an outdated info and doesn't mention the side materials). If only one trope should remain, which one is it?

It confused me now because Anachronic Order and Non-Linear Sequel don't even mention each other in their trope descriptions.

With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation

Looking at the description for Non-Linear Sequel, it's meant to be "these games all take place in the same world, but there isn't any sense of linear order to them". Like Zelda if you concentrate on the games alone and ignore the timeline provided in supplementary materials.

Which means that most of the examples on the page aren't examples at all. A lot of them should move to Anachronic Order, while some (like Final Fantasy) are something different entirely.

No Social Skills vs Not Good With People?

Not Good With People specifies that the character is very good with other life forms, like animals and plants and even aliens, and only really struggles with people.

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What's the difference between Hunter of Monsters and Vampire Hunter. The latter seems like The Same But More Specific of the former.

The sheer volume of vampire-centric fiction allowing the Vampire Hunter archetype to grow by itself.

Sometimes there's a fine line between TSBMS and Sub-Trope, Bland-Name Product being a prime example.

Well is there a special dynamic that makes Vampire Hunter unique enough to justify a subtrope?

Yes, historical context. Eastern European folklore believed dhampyrs acted as vampire hunters. This belief survived all the way to New England, where there were vampire hunting parties organized (and this was pre-Dracula).

The Witch Hunt has similar reasons, think Salem Witch Trials.

Interestingly the character who codified it, Dracula's Van Helsing, was just a really smart doctor who knew how to kill vampires :-)

Tokyo Is the Center of the Universe is the same thing as Creator Provincialism but in Japan... except it has a few examples of works that don't take place in Japan, such as Pokémon the Series: Sun and Moon.

The description is messy but makes it sound like it’s “important events always happen in major cities”, with the fact that the creators are from there a possible justification.

To be fair, the latter trope helps distinguish when the author's provincialism slips up, like, say, the characters thinking the number 4 is of bad luck even though Italy has no superstition.

Edited by Tomodachi on Jun 15th 2021 at 6:30:06 AM

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I think Tokyo Is the Center of the Universe should be rewritten to be more country-neutral. Also, the rhetorical question part goes on for waaay too long. Should I add it to Tropes Needing TRS?

Edited by NitroIndigo on Jun 15th 2021 at 2:53:43 PM

Platonic Life-Partners and Heterosexual Life-Partners...is there any difference? If so, it needs to be better reflected.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

Platonic Life-Partners: M/F BF Fs (it used to be called The Straight Will And Grace, after the central friendship of Will & Grace). Contrasts the assumption than one’s strongest M/F relationship must be romantic.

Heterosexual Life-Partners: M/M or F/F BF Fs. Contrasts the assumption that any strong same sex relationship is totally gay, bro.

^^^ Description rewrites can be handled by the Description Improvement Drive in LTP.

What's the difference between Delirious Misidentification and Thoroughly Mistaken Identity?

For every low there is a high.