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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
This is just a heads up that once Bald Of Awesome has been resolved and the new Bald of Authority is launched, I'll be taking Bald Black Leader Guy in for a merge between it and the new trope.
I can kinda see why it existed as a subtrope when Bald Of Awesome was the trope, considering that "awesome" can cover a wide array of things, but Bald of Authority's more narrow scope makes it a much harder sell imo and pushes it into the not useful variety of The Same, but More Specific
I'm not putting myself in the numbered queue yet just because the queue has been moving fast and I'm not sure when wick cleaning for Bald Of Awesome will finish. I will copy this explanation into that sandbox though for when I eventually make moves.
Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 16th 2022 at 11:18:25 AM
the Retromancer
The Chew Toy is said to be The Woobie counterpart, and the main difference from Butt-Monkey is stated to be how the audience see them, but it's not YMMV?
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
I always felt like The Chew Toy was redundant to Butt-Monkey myself.
(she/her)
Gang Of Critters TRS thread has resolved so there's a spot open.
Macron's notes
Came across Leap Day and from the way it's written, it's just a trope covering a person being born on 2/29. That's it. It's not even a subtrope of Significant Birth Date. To me that's pretty clearly chairs and I'd advocate for a cut (settle for a disambig if ppl want to preserve inbounds), but I wanted to see if others reading the description felt similarly.
Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 18th 2022 at 4:45:30 AM
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We might spin something off and call it Leap Day Birthday or whatnot, but that's a matter for TLP.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
I think the gist of it is being born on Feb 29 and jokes about less birthdays as a result.: “ That though you've lived 21 years, yet, if we go by birthdays, you're only 5 and a little bit over!”
Edited by Synchronicity on Feb 18th 2022 at 8:21:19 AM
the Retromancer
Or you know, grumping about not having a birthday party at all (and not in the following day either) except for specific years.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
What if we split it into a Useful Notes page for the actual day and a trope like Leap Day Angst or something for when the birthday in-universe is joked about or there's problems about not being able to celebrate?
Edited by Hello83433 on Feb 18th 2022 at 9:35:01 AM
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the Retromancer
Leap Day page does read like a Useful Notes/ page and not a character trope. But as usual, before anything a wickcheck is required to see how many examples are just Significant Birth Date and which have something more to them.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
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yeah i was just checking to see if anyone else felt like it was worth the wick check. the on page examples are pretty all over the place with the majority just being "Character A has a birthday on 2/29" which made me think this entire trope was an issue.
thanks everyone for the feedback
I think that would fit better under a wider trope about bday angst. I suggested a trope like that here in the Trope Idea Sounding Board (to you! just realized that, ha ha)
Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 18th 2022 at 10:39:30 AM
the Retromancer
Sinkhole seems to still have the Wiki Tropes TRS tag.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
(she/her)
Removed the tag.
Macron's notes
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I closed the No Straight Examples, Please! thread.
I never got a response from Spark9 or Playing_with_boy in the past and I don't know if Calamity Raven 26's thread is ready, so I'm going to page ~Piterpicher this time.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
TBH, I'd say that Spark's thread isn't ready either as there's no checking done and the entire OP is anecdotal.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Oh, right... I guess that was brought up in the past, but I forgot.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I mean, I guess they consider it done, but... I'll ping 'em here.
They've not been on since the 4th though, so who knows.
Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 18th 2022 at 1:55:04 PM
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Why did you send the ping? There aren't any free slots since Piterpicher took the free slot.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I didn't ping them so they could take the slot, I pinged them so they could understand that their OP doesn't cut it yet. So that if they do come back, they don't immediately make it and then complain if it gets morgued.
Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 18th 2022 at 3:44:41 PM
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Ah, gotcha. That makes sense.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Hey I have a question.
How old does a trope have to be to warrant TRS? I know Romantic Asexual is very new and that has a thread, and Stock Parody Jokes and Flagship Franchise are also newer tropes that have been identified as possible TRS candidates, so newer tropes can go to TRS.
But I also remember that Jerks Are Worse Than Villains was another identified TRS candidate and the argument for not taking it was that it was too new. With this in mind, when is a trope too new for TRS?
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Angry babby
I don't think a trope needs to be a certain age before TRS unless it's an issue of not thriving. But if it is brand new then usually it can just be sent back to TLP.
Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 18th 2022 at 5:03:56 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Right, I think tropes that are still fresh enough to be unlaunched can just be handled at Crash Rescue. I'd say like a few weeks to a year is enough for a trope to be established enough to warrant TRS. The issue with JAWTV is that it attracted issues right out the gate, but since then it hasn't really been brought up.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Slotted Pay Phone into the queue, will wick check it but from even cursory checks it should probably be axed/disambiged for the same reason Phone Booth was.
Edited by Tonwen on Feb 15th 2022 at 1:15:04 PM
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