Is this an example?

i feel like it could qualify because they are indifferent to the fact that they're killing children, and that strikes me as following the spirit of the trope if not the letter. you're right, though, it's a toughie.

(x3) I think the second one qualifies, just as long as he knows the plane has kids on board. I'm not sure about the first, though.

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I don't feel these entries from Cinder's folder in Characters.The Makings Of Team CRME is an example and I feel the first paragraph fits more under Fatal Flaw.

i agree. the first bullet describes her Fatal Flaw and the second is just straight FEINE. move one, cut the other (since it references FEINE already being on the page).

To that, from what I recall, the airport staff tried to restore communications with the airplanes circling around the airport and had a SWAT team to help out. Stuart's men were all there and takes out the SWAT team before McClane comes in and kills off Stuart's men. In retaliation for this, Stuart asks for any plane that's low on fuel. He was given a number and then impersonated an air traffic control man to crash the plane itself, killing everyone aboard. While there was a scene that had a child running around inside the plane prior to the crash, I don't think Stuart knew who was aboard the plane. He just wanted any plane to crash to teach them all a lesson.

And for the first one however, Hans did know about the pregnant woman being one of the hostages before he sent them up to the rooftop in an attempt to take them all out. But since she was just a pregnant woman and no child was there, kind of iffy on that one.

mmm, with the details, im gonna come down on the side of no, neither of those counts.

(x3) Thanks.

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I think linking the Useful Notes page is fine. The entry isn't treating "American Football" as a work or a trope, which is the important part. Whether or not it links to the corresponding Useful Notes page doesn't change that.

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Warning, a minor spoiler to Midnight Mass (2021):

• Too Dumb to Live: Bowl is walking home at night and passes an abandoned house...the door of which creaks open loudly just as he's walked past. When he goes back to investigate, something within the house repeats everything he says. Thinking it's one of the teens he deals weed to, he enters and is promptly pounced on by the "Angel". Justified as Bowl has no real reason to be afraid of anyone on the island (the Sherrif mentions there is basically no violent crime in the town for a century), and has no reason to think it's anything but a harmless prank.

Is it really Too Dumb to Live if it's "justified"? I mean, if the example itself explains how the action was not that stupid, then it's probably safe to just delete it?

Agreed, if he's justified for not thinking there is anything dangerous inside, then he's not too dumb to live.

I stand by my previous comment on this entry when I said that isn't an example.

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So doing some digging and for the American Football example it's somewhat incorrect. There's no known advantage to getting the ball first and it's actually more common nowadays to defer and let the opponent get the ball first.

Edited by mr_allen on Sep 5th 2022 at 3:13:40 PM

Can Kiwami Japan be listed in ASMR Video? It's not the focus of his videos' contents, but it doesn't have background music or voice overs, and the audio purely comes from the tools and processes he's using. A lot of comments do say that his videos also work as ASMR.

Thanks, I'll remove it then.

oops, I missed your reply, I though no one answered. Thanks!

You're welcome and I understand.

In I Couldnt Become A Hero So I Reluctantly Decided To Get A Job, Fino Bloodstone, the main female lead, laughs quite a bit throughout the series.

Is this considered an example of The Hyena?

Edited by gjjones on Sep 5th 2022 at 6:12:57 AM

Sounds like it to me. EDIT: Though, on second thought, I would like more details if possible. Thanks.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Sep 5th 2022 at 5:00:24 AM

You need more precise language. The Hyena isn't just someone who laughs "quite a bit", it's more "way too frequently and often inappropriately".

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 5th 2022 at 5:27:09 AM

Can I use The Un-Reveal to describe a reveal that is important to the audience but completely insignificant to the characters? Thinking specifically of this (identifying names redacted to avoid spoilers), with The Un-Reveal applying to the last sentence.

• Earth All Along: The series is set up as being set in a Constructed World, but then volume ## reveals completely in passing that one of the ruined cities in [location] is Bucharest, Romania [long time] After the End, which by extension makes the mountain range itself the Carpathians. This has no significance at all to the characters, who are all from the work's present day.

I don't think that sounds like The Un-Reveal at all.

For what it's worth there are multiple examples on Earth All Along already where it's a reveal only to the audience and the characters in the work don't know or care.

As I read the Un Reveal description, it's something that promises a reveal and then ... doesn't. The example as written doesn't seem to fit that.

Also, now I have that Simpsons Planet of the Apes musical stuck in my head ...

Edited by laserviking42 on Sep 5th 2022 at 8:53:05 AM

I'm not sure if the Ambiguous Disorder / Diagnosed by the Audience cleanup is still active, but I noticed that the AD examples that got moved to DBTA don't really mention a specific disorder the fandom headcanons the characters as having. They just mention the character having weird quirks that hint at some kind of disorder, but there's no direct evidence as to what kind of specific real-world disorder they have (which I feel was the original definition of AD).

IMO, the tropes should've been split instead of one replacing the other.

Maybe see TRS about that.

Not sure if that details I highlighted it is appropriate or have enough context in an example of Centurion:

• Bittersweet Ending: The 9th Legion is wiped out, and Quintus is a fugitive from Roman society, but he retires with his hot new girlfriend to an idyllic little cottage.
• Hot Witch: Arianne was accused of witchcraft, and deliberately creates the impression that she is a necromancer to protect herself, but she doesn't really have any magical powers, although she is an expert on woodcraft and herb lore. She's definitely at least hot.

if they're presented as attractive, first one seems fine. second one should expand on what makes her hot, preferably with examples of fanservice tropes that apply to her.

As far as the first one, is it presented as such in the story? Or is this a fan deciding the girlfriend is hot enough to somehow balance out the rest?