Is this an example?

Of course we named the trope after the story. "'And tonight one of us gets to sleep in a very fine bed', Beat, Yes, it was a very fine bed."

Anyway, like I said, the closest to fitting Serial Killer would be Ramsey, assuming you can overlap with Hunting the Most Dangerous Game. He's in a similar position of power and insanity as Elizabeth Bathory—one, of course, living in GRIMDARK Crapsack Westeros.

I'll do a Wiki Walk around looking for rope or grappling hook tropes, see if I can find what I need in Spider Man or Just Cause. Maybe I found a new one to YKTTW.

edited 15th May '14 10:47:10 AM by Rotpar

Recently, i noted the following example in Easily Forgiven:

• Harry Potter to Ron Weasley in Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows after Ron walks on him for the second time under much harsher conditions. Averted, however, by Hermione, who doesn't speak to Ron for weeks after he returns.

Is this a correct example?

It's basically zero-context, explaining neither what was done that required forgiveness nor the reasons for it being forgiven. It's a superb example of how to write around an example, if you're into that sort of thing.

edited 18th May '14 12:35:10 PM by Fighteer

I was about to say exactly that.

What is the trope when a character becomes what he likes?

Let's say that Batman is a huge fan of bats, and decided to become a bat-man. Or for a canonical case, G-tron, the sonic-look alike of my avatars, is fascinated by energy, then, he is struck by lighting and became a being of pure energy (without pants!!!)

What trope would that be?

That kind of question is more appropriately asked in Lost And Found. This thread is for when you are wondering if an example fits a particular trope, or for example writing help in general.

That said, the trope you're looking for is Ascended Fanboy.

I'm banned, I can't edit articles so I can't ask there :( Sorry.

edited 19th May '14 6:17:18 PM by Tomodachi

It's not an article, actually. The link Fighteer gave will automatically redirect to here.

Oh. I wasn't aware of that.

edited 20th May '14 6:49:47 AM by MarqFJA

FYI, Ask The Tropers, Lost And Found, and You Know That Show are blocked if you are also wiki banned.

So I'm trying to catalogue tropes from my own writing, and I'm a bit hung up on whether or not to consider something as a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown.

The problem I'm having is twofold: First, I want to know if tearing at the victim with claws counts as a Beatdown. Secondly, at one point the victim tries to escape, but the attacker uses magic to teleport themselves back on top of the victim to continue attacking, and the trope says that it doesn't involve magic.

Other than these two things, I'm pretty sure that the scene in question could be considered a Beatdown.

Thanks in advance!

The trope discusses punches, kicks, and similar melee attacks, but the key factors of a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown are that it's brutal and unnecessary; the victim is unable to fight back and you just keep attacking anyway. The use of claws rather than fists would seem within the bounds of the trope, and the fact that the victim is teleported (or teleported to) to continue the beatdown is also within scope.

The "no magic" part of the trope means that the beatdown doesn't involve fireballs or lightning bolts, not that the attacker can't use any magic at all.

edited 26th May '14 8:36:44 PM by Fighteer

Trying to figure out if this counts as an odd variant of "It" Is Dehumanizing:

In Girl Genius, Lucrezia had her daughter for the sole purpose of acting as a vessel for her mind. She treats her daughter like an object, and never refers to her by name, instead calling her "my daughter," "the girl," or "the Heterodyne girl" (except for one time when she called her "the Agatha girl," which somehow seems worse).

No, that's something rather different. Not naming someone as a way to belittle them is quite distinct from calling them "it".

In Brandon Sanderson's series The Stormlight Archive, it's pretty clear that the ultimate Big Bad is a God of Evil named Odium. However, he has yet to make any sort of appearance and his minions only really start directly affecting the plot a little before the climax of the second book. In the meantime, the major antagonists driving the story have been three conspiracies (the Ghostbloods, the Diagram, and the Sons of Honor) and one individual (Highprince Sadeas).

My question is, would this count as an example of Big Bad Ensemble? Even though there's clearly one ultimate Big Bad and none of them are it, they're the antagonists who have been primarily driving the immediate plot, and they're about equally important (except maybe for Sadeas, who has been killed off). Can Big Bad Ensemble apply to "temporary" villains?

Sounds like those antagonists are groups, not individuals.

I was under the impression that a group could be considered a Big Bad.

(And the Diagram, at least, does have a clearly identified individual leader. I just didn't think mentioning him was relevant).

It's true that the Big Bad doesn't have to be a specific individual, but...

edited 28th May '14 2:14:58 PM by Fighteer

Odium isn't The Man Behind the Man for any of those groups, though (probably). In fact, the latter two are explicitly fighting his designs, and the former might be as well.

Big Bad gets plenty of misuse for Arc Villain.

Does Named After Somebody Famous include in-universe cases of naming someone after a famous real-life fictional character? (As in, they are a fictional character of a real life fictional work, rather than a Show Within a Show kind of fictional character)

edited 29th May '14 2:23:22 PM by MarqFJA

Sure, that's legitimate.

Something I noticed in Twilight's Kingdom Part 2.

When Tirek offered the safe return of all of Twilight Sparkle's friends in exchanged for the Alicorn powers, her friends begged not to do it, believing that they're not worth the Alicorn Magic that Twilight has left. She instead agreed to Tirek's terms and gave up the magic just to regain her friends.

Afterwards, Spike then said "Twilight, what were you thinking?"

Would something like this count as a "What the Hell, Hero" moment for Twilight Sparkle? Also, Twilight looked like she was in an emotionless mood having surrendered the Alicorn Magic to Tirek. Would something like this count as her own Heroic Blue Screen of Death(Till she got her key)?

( for The Idolmaster - YMMV page)

• Fandom Rivalry: It might not be reciprocated, but because Kentaro Miura has been known to be a huge fan of this series to the point of schedule slipping, Berserk fans have been shown to dislike this series because of the competition; it isn't unusual to find comments in Idolmaster-related You Tube videos or web-page articles commenting on Berserk potentially being delayed again and/or general reactions of "He put Berserk on hiatus for THIS?!".

Two web-page articles and a Youtube video Video is NSFW for comments for reference on the last point, to show examples. In any case, I'm not sure if "fandom rivalry" would be the most fitting trope for this, since some of the comments seem to be more good-natured ribbing than bashy (the ones on the You Tube video... aren't quite so tame). Plus, I don't really know if Idolmaster fans take issues with Berserk fans in turn; I as an Idolmaster fan don't personally follow Berserk and thus do not have any like/dislike toward it, so this isn't something I can figure out too well. As for Berserk, this is mentioned, though with a different reference, in both the mangaka's creator page and the manga's YMMV page under Never Live It Down

edited 31st May '14 11:02:43 AM by HPLemon

There a few examples of Never Gets Drunk (e.g. Nami from One Piece) where the character whose the subject of the trope does get tipsy at least some of the times when s/he drinks, but never seems to ever hit the point of flat-out inebriation no matter how much s/he drinks. Are these still examples of the trope?

edited 3rd Jun '14 10:42:07 AM by MarqFJA

No. Not an example. "Tipsy" is mildly inebriated. This character "never shows any of the signs of inebriation."