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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

Codefreak5 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Oct 15th 2019 at 9:52:00 PM

The Real Life section of Nerves of Steel has a handful of ZCEs. I fixed the skydiving one (I think), but the other examples are either people I don't know enough about to expand on (and don't currently have the time to research), and professional golf.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Oct 16th 2019 at 3:47:12 PM

Just a note with this gem from clean-up:

Best example context ever.

Berrenta Time Cat from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Time Cat
Oct 16th 2019 at 8:23:56 PM

[up] The latter of the two can be outright pulled; examples should not point to other examples.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Oct 17th 2019 at 2:41:47 AM

[up] Both are commented out, but I'll delete the part that references another example.

rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Oct 18th 2019 at 9:36:24 AM

The Western Animation folder of The Napoleon has a lot of ZCEs.

EDIT: Commented them out.

Edited by rjd1922 on Nov 30th 2019 at 3:46:52 AM

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
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Short-Term Projects herald, Hedge Trimmer & more
Oct 18th 2019 at 1:42:15 PM

Talking Heads has a bunch of ZCEs, my favorite being this one:

Potholing the work name to an abbreviation and using sinkholes at the end. There were also numerous violations of Examples Are Not General. Everything that I was certain was problematic is hidden, but these two need consensus as to whether they should stay:

  • Peep Show does an original take on the cliche thanks to being filmed with a POV camera.
  • When Channel Five started as the UK's fifth terrestrial channel, the idea of terrestrial TV had already been rendered obselescent by the advent of satellite and cable. A fifth free-to-view TV station was no longer as exciting as it might have been if there were only five available channels. Five therefore set about attracting viewers by sensationalism, promising a lot of explicit content. Viewers read this as "free porn". many viewers were not amused when the "porn" turned out to be home-made and imported documentaries about the porn business and its stars. There might be a ten or fifteen second establishing scene demonstrating that porn was in fact happening and showing who and what was involved - and then the visual content would switch to "talking heads" who would talk, at length, about the sociological, economic, moral, health, gender-political, feminist, or other, aspect of the business. Viewers got disillusioned quickly.

GastonRabbit Madman from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Madman
Oct 21st 2019 at 1:56:32 AM

I went through VideoGame.Dragon Quest XI since I've been playing a lot of Dragon Quest lately, but Characters.Dragon Quest XI still needs work. I also scrubbed Word Cruft and bad indentation. (I could have overlooked stuff, since I'm sick for the umpteenth time this year and it's almost 4 AM.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 21st 2019 at 4:12:55 AM

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Oct 21st 2019 at 11:42:58 AM

Characters.Americas Next Top Model

All the subpages are awful and littered with ZCE.

I really, really don't like reality shows and this one takes the cake... I tried doing the first sub-page, but I'm almost disgusted with troping real-life, misusing tropes and the number of ZCE. (There was some effort with the clean-up, but the "only trope title" examples were commented out.)

Would anyone help to comment-out these pages? As far as I can tell, they're all in poor state. (If it were up to me, I would send them to cutlist, but I think character sheets are allowed for reality shows, so it's really not my call.)

Oct 23rd 2019 at 9:13:43 PM

The House on Mango Street is just a lot of zero-context examples.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Oct 24th 2019 at 6:46:51 AM

[up] I tried to comment it out.

PlasmaPower The Grim Reaper of Tropes Relationship Status: Cast away
The Grim Reaper of Tropes
Oct 25th 2019 at 12:33:16 AM

I see some examples in Fantasy Helmet Enforcement’s Western Animation tab that don’t have context in them.

Also guys have you checked the Western Animation tab for The Napoleon? Dear god, there’s a whole bunch of examples there with no context.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Oct 25th 2019 at 4:36:28 PM

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Oct 25th 2019 at 9:19:46 AM

[up] Can you comment it out?

It's okay to report things, but it's even more beneficial to lend a hand and edit things yourself.

Pichu-kun ...
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Oct 26th 2019 at 5:02:35 AM

[up][up] It doesn't help that the trope is a bit vague. There's nothing odd about people using helmets - you're supposed to use helmets to ride bikes - so the trope is about examples were the plot enforces it or it's outlandish.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Oct 26th 2019 at 5:04:47 AM

Oct 26th 2019 at 7:13:09 PM

Apparently, Blatant Lies, when played straight, needs the lie to be believed by other characters?

So... Since there has to be a note on whether the lie was believed, then all these examples from BlatantLies.Anime And Manga, are all Zero-Context Examples?

  • From Angel Beats!. After Otonashi has to grab Yurippe inappropriately to climb up human ladder-style and Hinata attempts the same thing:
    Hinata: AAAAAHHHHH YYYYYOOOOUUUUUU BIIIIIIIT-
    [scene change]
    Otonashi: Where's Hinata?
    Yurippe: He was a noble sacrifice.
  • Attack on Titan: When Mikasa gets asked exactly what happened when Eren, having not yet mastered his Titan form, unknowingly tried to attack her by her friends, she claims Eren was swatting a fly. In a completely straight face as usual.
  • About half of the dialog in Beelzebub is lies one way or another. Especially anytime Oga is describing himself or any other time it could get a laugh. Including the very first line of the series.
    Oga: Long, long ago, in a certain place, there was a very, very handsome, cool, respected, entirely angelic young man.
  • The Sisters in A Certain Magical Index narrate themselves, so any lies end up like this.
    Mikoto: Did you just eat my ice cream?
    Misaka 9982: Of course not, Misaka says while enjoying the lingering taste of chocolate mint.
  • Delicious in Dungeon has Marcille telling the others that she is "the picture of good health" after being exposed to the scream of a mandrake. Both her eyes are pointed in opposite directions.
  • The Dirty Pair are more properly addressed as the "Lovely Angels" because that more accurately describes them, and it's never their fault when something bad happens on one of their missions, even when a planet is destroyed, which tends to happen somewhere around a third of the time. At least, that's what they claim.
  • Durarara!! has Orihara Izaya saying "No way! I'm not the bad guy!"
    • Another fun instance of Izaya's blatant lies is during the Dufufufu!! OVA story, when he talks to the false Shizuo. He walks up to him, pretends not to know Shizuo at all, calls himself 'Tsukumoya Shinichi', asks if he can pay the false Shizuo to give him information, and spends pretty much the rest of his screen time spouting any random crap he can come up with.
  • In Elfen Lied, young Kouta lies to Lucy about the gender of his cousin in order to avoid making her jealous. BIG mistake.

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
bwburke94 My Ice Cream Waifu from Remnant Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
My Ice Cream Waifu
Oct 26th 2019 at 7:30:54 PM

Blatant Lies is also part of what I've called the "sinkhole trinity" (alongside Understatement and Sarcasm Mode), because of the sheer number of times it's been sinkholed.

Misspelled trope names dealt with... for now. Moving back to the Understatement project soon?
rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Oct 27th 2019 at 1:50:30 PM

Evil Genius has a lot of ZCEs, particularly in the video games folder.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
Oct 29th 2019 at 8:28:48 AM

This example on the this page was commented out as ZCE:

  • Tank-Tread Mecha: Kataphron Battle Servitors have tank treads instead of legs.

There's really not much else that can be elaborated on, from the lore or elsewhere. Is it ZCE or not?

Oct 29th 2019 at 11:12:33 AM

As I said in my PM to you I believe that it does count. It is also not exactly that difficult to add more context:

  • Tank-Tread Mecha: In-keeping with the depictions of the majority of heavy combat servitors since 1st Edition, Kataphron Battle Servitors have had their legs replaced with large and robust track units. These tracks give the servitors a stable platform to fire their heavy weapons from, allowing them to lay down punishing fire as they advance on the enemy, something that the 8th Edition rules represent with the Heavy Battle Servitor ability that allows both Katahron Breachers and destroyers to ignore the usual penalties when firing Heavy type weaponry on the move.

I would have added more context myself rather than comment it out but I was a little short on time and, when it is a recent edit, I prefer to allow the original troper first crack at fixing it.

Edited by SebastianGray on Oct 29th 2019 at 6:14:19 PM

Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Oct 31st 2019 at 8:03:27 PM

Koihime†Musou has many ZCEs and uses dashes instead of colons in the trope list, which is deprecated. Adorkable attracts a lot of examples lacking context, overuse, and gushing.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Nov 1st 2019 at 4:27:13 AM

Re: Adorkable. 10 617 wicks.

Its misuse is one of my biggest pet peeves on this wiki. Everything tropers like is called Adorkable, even if it's just adorable at the very best.

Everyone they like is a cute dork in their eyes. A hot celebrity actress makes a nerdy joke? Adorkable! An unredeemable villain gets a book publishing deal and is happy about it? Adorkable! A no-nonsense male captain is cute with his no-nonsense husband? Adorkable! This character I like does a random geeky thing? Adorkable!

I have given up. This is a hopeless battle.

Edited by XFllo on Nov 1st 2019 at 12:31:52 PM

Nov 1st 2019 at 4:53:48 AM

[up]Little off topic but I as you brought it up, I am guessing this Warhammer 40,000 example about the game's version of Ogres is misuse then? It has always bugged me a bit.

  • Adorkable: Despite their poor hygiene, Ogryns are generally seen as lovable goofballs by the fanbase.

Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Nov 1st 2019 at 6:16:18 AM

[up] Not that offtopic. There's barely any context in the write-up.

To me, that's clear misuse. It's not supposed to be an Audience Reaction, but an objective trope. In essence, it's a dorky character who is considered cute and attractive by other characters in-universe.

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Nov 1st 2019 at 6:18:38 AM

In all honesty, I think Adorkable only exists because it was created before we insisted on sending all tropes through TLP; it'd never get through nowadays.

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rjd1922 The Radio Demon from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The Radio Demon
Nov 1st 2019 at 6:43:16 AM

[up][up]The description only talks about them being endearing to the audience, though your definition would work a lot better.

I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929!
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Nov 1st 2019 at 7:19:34 AM

Yeah, I probably twisted the description... so that it would make sense to me as an objective trope.

Ages ago, there was a Trope Repair Shop for Adorkable. See here.

The use was all over the place back then, with many wicks on YMMV tabs, others as normal objective tropes, and lots of ZCE and blatant gushing. The crowner options now show only the test words and red links, but if I remember correctly, there was an option to make it in-verse, but people voted against it... because they wanted to gush about their favourite characters. They also voted against making it YMMV because they wanted to have it on character sheets and main pages. No consensus was reached.

So the discussion ended with commenting out the ZCE from the subpages (the're still commented out). There was no dedicated cleanup effort for the wicks because there was no clear resolution about how the trope should be used and it was Trope Overdosed even then.


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