- So only the muggle dodos went extinct.
- Jossed. Obscuri, which are prominently featured in the movie, are somewhat similar in behavior and appearance to Lethifolds, but are extremely powerful manifestations of negative energy rather than beasts.
- Perhaps he will be part of the Anti-Magical Faction. It would fit as the real life Lovecraft was incredibly racist and xenophobic.
- He also had an overbearing mother (named Suzie).... New theory: Credence Barebone is HP Lovecraft.
- Jossed.
- Probably jossed. It's been stated on Pottermore that most of the witch hunters are actually descended from wizard vigilantes who began to hate wizards once an actual government meant that there was no room for them anymore.
- Subverted. Graves initially mistakes Credence for a Squib, but he's not.
- Alternately, they could keep the "Fantastic" but vary the theme for each of the five films, a la "Fantastic Beings and How to Meet Them", "Fantastic Spirits and How to Calm Them", "Fantastic Objects and How to Craft Them", or "Fantastic Realms and How to Visit Them".
- The naming convention has been confirmed, though the titles suggested here aren't.
- Jossed.
- In the first film, both of the Goldstein sisters are Ilvermorny alumni. The only thing that comes of it is them taking a dig at Hogwarts when Newt claims it's the best wizarding school in the world.Queenie: Hogwash!
- He's an existing character who's in hiding for some reason and is posing as Mary Lou's adopted son (Mary Lou is under a Confundus Charm to make her think Credence is her son) to hide his true identity, reasoning no one would suspect the son of the leader of the New Salem Philanthropic Society would be a wizard. Or
- His true name is Credence, but he will be "obliviated" at some point and make a new identity for himself becoming a character we know.
- Credence was kidnapped from his family by the Bareboneses and his brother went into law enforcement in the vain hope of finding him. He's become "troubled" because memories of his life as a wizard child are returning.
- Jossed
- Credence is the agent's son he never knew about, or was unable to find until Newt & Co. run into the Bareboneses.
- Jossed
- One or both of them is/are The Mole, Credence for MACUSA and the other one for the Scourers. Credence is starting to crack/believe he really is a Scourer.
- Credence is helping Graves, but he wasn't "pretending" to be a Scourer
- Alternatively, Jacob is a witness and there's something he knows that Newt and co need before erasing his memory, possibly seeing someone (the true culprit for releasing Newt's creatures?)that they will later need him to identify. At the end of the film, Newt, having grown fond of Jacob, will only pretend to erase his memory.
- First part confirmed, second part unclear.
- Check, check and double check!
- Grindelwald: Do you think you can hold me?
Picquery: [In a "shrugging-it-off" tone of voice, but with a very tense face] We'll do our best, Mr. Grindelwald.
- Grindelwald's reputation precedes him. Also, he fended off at least 2 auror teams' worth of spell fire on his own immediately prior to this, and was only captured by Newt blindsiding him. Also, I don't get the feeling that Picquery, despite her job, is comfortable with lying, especially not to an opponent who is undoubtedly more confident in the inevitability of his escape than she is of her ability to prevent such.
- Alternately (and less WMG), it could merely be the result of spell damage from the fight between himself, Albus, and Aberforth.
- Alternatively, it formed after the attack with muggle boys and manifested at various different points as she tried to repress her magic.
- This may have been why Grindelwald reacted so badly after seeing Credence essentially gunned down by MACUSA.
- She didn't repress her magic, so no.
- Erm, yes she did, that was her entire backstory. Indeed, this barely seems to qualify as a WMG; revealing that Obscurials exist seems to be confirmation that this is what happened to Ariana—the Potter franchise does have a liking of introducing concepts long before attaching a name or specifics to it.
- Indeed. Here's the quote from Aberforth in Deathly Hallows, after describing her attack by three Muggles: "'It destroyed her, what they did: she was never right again. She wouldn't use magic, but she couldn't get rid of it: it turned inwards and drove her mad, it exploded out of her when she couldn't control it, and at times she was strange and dangerous. But mostly she was sweet, and scared, and harmless.'" The only flaw in this theory is that she survived at least until the age of fourteen - so surely Graves/Grindelwald would have known that they aren't always under the age of ten. Maybe he looked into them after the incident where Ariana was killed and then heard the stories about them only being small children. Maybe he just never paid attention to details like her age, considering how caught up he was plotting the revolution with Albus.
- Maybe there's no actual thing that would kill them on their age, possibly they only 'Only live until 10' because as they get older, they come into their magic and become more and more dangerous, and more and more obvious So they subsequently get killed while an Obscurial. They only 'live until 10' in the same way a T-Rex roaming a city has a short lifespan, because the government is going to show up and do something about that.
- In fact, this neatly explains how Ariana lived so long. Perhaps Albus figured out some magic to keep her under control. It can't be something simple, or wizards would have already figured it out, but Albus was pretty smart, even as a teenager. Or Grindelwald figured how to keep her alive out, considering that he was planning on using an Obscurial. So in Fantastic Beasts he already knew how to keep one alive and under his control.
- I mean she didn't pretend to be a Muggle. In addition to the age, there was no mention of a dark, parasitic entity attached to her. But the similarity in the case makes me wonder if Rowling realized it or not.
- She seems different from the standard Obscurial in that she wasn't forced to live as a Muggle, rather she forced herself to repress her magic after the trauma that came after using it. And yes, there is no mention of a parasitic entity, but that's really par for the course in this universe. We heard a lot of talk about Azkaban and its guards in the second and third books, but absolutely nothing that would prepare us for dementors when they finally turned up on-page. Same basic concept.
- Also, a close look at Deathly Hallows will tell you that the duel broke out between Albus, Aberforth, and Grindelwald after an argument over the fate of Ariana. Grindelwald wanted to take Ariana with him, which would seem very suspicious if she's not an Obscurial. He may not have known about it before, but he left Godric's Hollow looking for an Obscurial to replace Ariana. During the interrogation, asked about the Sudanese obscurial in Newt's case, and he obviously sought very hard after Credence. He also asked about Dumbledore when he was still relatively anonymous, perhaps because Dumbledore may have been the only person to know about Grindelwald's obscurial interests. It's unclear how balanced Obscurials and the Deathly Hallows are in his mind, but it's pretty telling that Grindelwald as Graves temporarily stopped using the Elder Wand in an effort to win over the obscurial in New York.
- It is entirely possible that Aberforth simplified. Maybe the duel wasn't over the 'fate' of Ariana per se, it was over the fact that Grindelwald (And Albus was going along with) was intending to travel the world using her as a weapon.
- Incidentally, as a weird 'Hey, Dumbledore was retroactively lying to us' fact, it seems that the Invisiblity Cloak wouldn't have helped Ariana at all. (That didn't make a lot of sense to start with!) If DD was looking for a Deathly Hallows to help her, it would have been the Elder Wand. And TT bets that Grindelwald was kicking himself for not having it on him.
- Considering one of the legendary properties of the cloak was that you could hide even from death, Dumbledore may have believed it would protect Ariana both from attackers and from herself. Plus, Credence was killed for endangering the masquerade — it's likely that was a risk for other Obscurials too.
- Obscuri are too rare for that. We know that Dementors just grow in extremely vile places like Azkaban.
- She could have grabbed some of his memories under the guise of that kiss. We know wizards can remove and store memories, and while we've never seen any of them do it without a wand or keep those memories in their own head, we've never seen the sort of natural legilimens that Queenie is either.
- Right, that's what I'm thinking…
- That could mean Senator Shaw's brother might also remember that night, considering how excited he was about Mary Lou's cause and how much he was disliked by the Senator and his father.
- Considering the venom did its job on Jacob anyway, this doesn't seem likely. What IS possible, though, is that the Murtlap's bite prevented the venom from working- check out the scene with Queenie at the end again. He rubs the bite mark when he seems to recognise her. Then consider who wrote the script. It's unlikely that's a coincidence, combined with Newt outright naming the things his bite cure will do for Jacob.
[[WMG: Jacob and Queenie will eventually leave for Europe because they want to be together. However, they have Jewish surnames so taking inspiration from Queenie’s name, they change it to Prince. They have at least one child, a daughter who they called Eileen. Somewhere in between this and Eileen’s marriage, Jacob and Queenie will die. Eileen will eventually marry Tobias Snape and has a child, Severus Snape. So Snape is Queenie and Jacob’s grandson.
- A deleted scene shows a reconstituted Credence boarding Newt's ship, and he's supposed to appear in the next film.
- The wisp in question could have found its way to Merope as it could have been disconnected from Credence and reattaching was deemed too much trouble by it, leading it to seek easier prey, which a baby who is the result of a Love Potion would qualify as.
- This theory may be supported by the Deathly Hallows encounter where Voldemort meets and kills Grindelwald. Grindelwald has said that he's been expecting Voldemort. Although it's possible, I doubt that Grindelwald's jailors keep him too informed about the outside world. Thus, Grindelwald would have had to know Tom Riddle by 1945 or before, and well enough to know that he would come to Nurmengard in search of the Elder Wand. This movie could be the start of their encounters.
- I think Voldemort sees Grindlewald after he's resurrected, and by that time Voldemort's pretty famous. With regards to the date, a newspaper at the end says it's "the wettest November on record" so it's possible the film takes place around the same period as the release date, late November/possibly early December. As for Macy's, I don't know what they did in 1926 but in 2016 they put up their Christmas decorations in mid-October so Credence's wisp, assuming it's the same as Voldemort's "spare bits of soul", would have to attach itself to someone/thing and survive for a month. As for Credence being reborn as Voldemort, this could explain Voldemort's "diluted" motivation compared to Grindelwald's: Grindelwald, who was always an exceptional wizard, wanted wizards to be superior to muggles and live openly without fear of persecution (basically he's Magneto). Voldemort just wants power and going from an abused boy to a "rejected" squib(?) to an abandoned orphan to, from a Slytherin's POV, secretly the second-lowest type of wizard to being rejected by Dumbledore and Hogwarts would definitely make him a bit power-hungry. There's also Credence/Voldemort's issues with intimacy: If he learned the significance of being conceived with a love potion he'd probably see the fetus' lack of love as a bonus — no one would ever manipulate his feelings like Graves/Grindelwald (and probably Mary Lou, though Word of God stated he and his siblings feared her more than they loved her) ever again, but maybe he could manipulate others.
- His hatred of muggles and Muggle Borns might be because he had a No-Maj mother who abused him horribly, so he associates all of them and anyone born to them with the idea that they are all horrible
- Then wouldn't Vernon, Marge, Petunia, and Dudley all have been surnamed Kowalski?
- Alternatively, Jacob will have a daughter who becomes the mother of Marge and Vernon. If Jacob's daughter is born around 1930 and Vernon is born around 1950, the timeline still adds up.
- The idea that Jacob, who would have gone to wizard school and marry a witch if he could and saw first-hand what happens when you abuse and oppress a young wizard (before he was obliviated), being the ancestor of Vernon who is so ruthlessly anti-abnormal that he tried to beat the magic out of his own nephew and made it impossible for any magical children to be born of his line is just too tragic.
- Isn't this a Foregone Conclusion? Didn't someone say that the pentology was supposed to end with Grindelwald's defeat?
- The way Newt being British is treated like a rare sight would seem to imply otherwise. Though, at the end of the movie, we see what seems like an emergency magic-ONU meeting, so maybe such travel methods do exist, but are too rare/expensive for a run-of-the-mill wizard, or magical tourism is strongly discouraged in the US.
- Word of God is that Apparition across intercontinental distances is far too dangerous for wizards who aren't exceptionally skilled and already familiar with the terrain, to pull off. Besides, some of the creatures in the case wouldn't have survived Side-Along Apparition.
- Confirmed. They have better ways, and those better ways are better monitored.
- Or they just use makeup to add a few years to Mr Redmayne's face if they think he looks too young.
- Theseus is described as a "war hero" so he might turn up again when WW2 breaks out.
- This is actually very likely, given that Grindelwald was implied to have more than a coincidental connection with the events of World War II.
- This appears to be confirmed, as several articles have popped up in recent months saying that he will appear in the second film.
- That may be a little bit squicky though, considering Luna canonically marries Rolf Scamander, Newt and Tina's grandson.
- For "us", perhaps. They would share one common set of great-grandparents (Tina and Queenie's parents), which would make them second cousins. Given that it's already been stated that most wizarding families are closely interrelated with others in wizarding Britain, second cousins marrying may not be nearly as much a big deal in the Potterverse. This is supported somewhat by Book 6, where the Trio theorize at one point that Tonks may have been in love with Sirius, and don't bat an eyelash at the fact that the two are first cousins once removed.
- If you look closely on the window of Jacob's new bakery at the end, that she visits, there is a "Help Wanted" sign...
- It might be his adopted sister Modesty that he loves - the two seem to share a bond.
- It's also possible that not even knowing helped. Keep in mind he wanted "Graves" to give him magic. It's possible that not even knowing he was a wizard with magic allowed him to survive for so long. Unlike, say, that girl in Sudan, he wasn't actively suppressing his magic, but subconsciously suppressing it.
- Perhaps his "mother" had been feeding him a herb that can surpess magical power, so it took longer for his magic to build up to critical mass. This could also explain the Ariana Dumbledore WMG further up on the page.
- This may supported by Newt's backstory change and how this story already serves as a bit of a mix between the books and their film adaptations. In the original book this is "based" on it was said he graduated Hogwarts, but in the movie it mentioned he was expelled not unlike what happened to Hagrid. There was also a case in the movies where a painting of Newt from later in life can be seen in the Headmaster's Office, even though according to the Pottermore timeline he's still alive in 2015, and those portraits are limited to dead former headmasters of Hogwarts. The question would be if the Alternate Continuity in this case would drift enough to be incompatible with either the book or movie's respective continuities, or it could be seen as the "cause" for why the movies turned out differently.
- What if he found in Hitler an easy role to play? Their backstories are amazingly similar to the point where he could tell a generalized version of Hitler's backstory and be talking about himself - and not be completely untruthful.
- Both were born in the 1880s.
- Both were not native to the lands they mostly operated. (Hitler was from Austria)
- Both were imprisoned in the 1920s as political revolutionaries
- Both regimes ended in 1945, and both persons were never in public after that - Hitler because of his death, Grindelwald because he was imprisoned. Better theory yet: Grindelwald was captured in the Wizarding world first, and because of that he couldn't uphold his Hitler identity in the Muggle world anymore, and that was why Hitler committed suicide (the fact that Hitler's reign was crumbling at that time already, was just a side-fact). Fridge Brilliance: Thus it was ultimately the Wizarding world, and not the Muggle world, that defeated Hitler.
- We already know he wanted to subjugate the Muggle world. What if his plan to do so came to included taking the form of a major European Muggle leader?
- Based on their Goldstein surname, there's been a theory bandied about that Tina and Queenie, who did much to foil his plans in America and got him thrown in prison, may have Jewish heritage. Make of that what you will.
- It's also possible Grindelwald used his similar backstory to bond with Hitler the same way he did with Dumbledore and get the occult-loving Nazis attention with promises of entry into the magical world like Credence, turning them (and possibly the rest of the Axis powers) into his pawns: Hitler/Axis controls the muggles and Grindelwald controls Hitler/Axis. There's also the fact that Hitler learned how to master an audience from a magician and the rumor he was heard ranting at an unseen person (a portrait, perhaps?).
- I don't think even Grindelwald could handle directing simultaneous global wars on separate levels of reality, though I'm sure he probably thought he could. By the time Dumbledore finally confronts him he's cracking up because now he's losing two simultaneous global wars and having a major identity crisis.
- Well, Hitler did make some stupid decisions during the war.
- "But Mein Hexen Fuhrer, Russia in winter is im—" "We have magic, nothing is impossible!"
- Hitler's regime was also fiercely homophobic, while there were allegations of Hitler himself being gay or bisexual. Dumbledore, Grindelwald's childhood friend, was gay and in love with Grindelwald according to Word of God, before the two had a fallout because of Ariana's death. It's not confirmed whether Grindelwald knew about Dumbledore's feelings and reciprocated them or not, but maybe Hitler's homophobic politics is explained by Grindelwald's hatred for Dumbledore.
- I think Word of God confirmed Grindelwald was just manipulating Dumbledore and regardless of what feelings he was using he never saw him as anything but a tool. If one of my "tools" not only rebelled but caused the destruction of an even more useful "tool" (Ariana, assuming she was also an Obscurial) I'd be pissed too.
- He dies to protect Dumbledore's grave and lies to Voldemort, and proceeds to tell him about how there's "so much he doesn't understand". Even if he didn't love Dumbledore in the same way, it's pretty clear that he at least liked the guy.
- I think Word of God confirmed Grindelwald was just manipulating Dumbledore and regardless of what feelings he was using he never saw him as anything but a tool. If one of my "tools" not only rebelled but caused the destruction of an even more useful "tool" (Ariana, assuming she was also an Obscurial) I'd be pissed too.
- One thing that doesn't match is — as far as I know — Grindelwald doesn't want to exterminate muggles, he wants wizards to rule over them as nobility. Then again the movies' portrayal of him appears to be going in a different direction then the books, especially considering his interest in what one reviewer called "the magical equivalent of an atomic bomb".
- Keep in mind, though, what we know of Grindelwald's aims from the original HP series was as a young man in his late teens. By the time of the FB series, he's in his early-mid forties. And often, as seen with many real-life instances (and in the HP series, for that matter), it doesn't take much for someone with some already bigoted views to go from benevolent would-be ruler to not-so-benevolent would-be ruler to "screw it, this group I want to rule isn't cooperating so my new world's better off without them." It's also possible he became so drunk with power that he forgot what he set out to do in the first place. In a span of nearly twenty-five years, a myriad of things could have happened. And certainly a few did, like one of his eyes changing color and bad haircuts. Heck, what's to say that the Ariana incident isn't the very thing that pushed him from Well-Intentioned Extremist to Omnicidal Maniac? There's certainly indicators that he's gone off the deep end a bit. (And, actually you could argue his casting was a slight telegraph, as the actor in question already has a reputation for playing characters that are eccentric if not full-on insane.)
- There's a number of things wrong with this. First, it's being entirely in poor taste considering that victims of the Holocaust are still very much alive today and probably wouldn't appreciate their suffering being attributed to a magic source. It also diminishes the very real human beings that died to stop Hitler. Furthermore, it's implied that he finds redemption of a sort at the end of Deathly Hallows, and if Grindelwald were literally Hitler, what sort of message would that send? Unfortunate Implications (and there are MANY) aside, Grindelwald was also winning his war until Dumbledore stopped him in 1945. Finally, we already had a direct Hitler analogue in Voldemort.
- However, Voldemort believed that the Elder Wand would change allegiance to him if his snake killed Snape, whom he believed was the master of the wand at the moment. Assuming he was right (and his plan was foiled only because he didn't know Draco was the master of the wand), how would Voldemort using his snake and Newt using the Swooping Evil be any different?
- Possibly because Nagini was a Horcrux, so technically part of Voldemort himself was killing Snape. (And, for what it's worth, they may have covered their butts on this front in the film by having Voldemort strike the first blow before sending in Nagini for the killshot). The Swooping Evil was certainly not controlled by Newt to that degree.
- Harry physically disarming Draco and becoming master of the Elder Wand was a plot point in the books. More likely, Grindelwald was using the original Graves' wand when he was disarmed, and/or he gains ownership of the Elder Wand after the events of the film when he returns to Europe.
- The book and film portrayals both seem to imply he gained possession of the wand as a young mannote and in fact used it to further his rise to power. Although the part of him using Graves' wand while disguised as him in America is probably very accurate.
The evidence is there that Modesty may have been magic herself, and not just because of Mary Lou's tendency to specifically "take in" the children of those she suspected to be magic.
One piece of evidence, is that the belt being ripped from Mary Lou's hand couldn't have been done by Credence, as Obscurial's cannot do normal magic like that since they've suppressed it, and the only other person who could've perhaps done it is Modesty herself.
Her having that wand, likely one of her parents', even if it was hidden could also be taken as an indication that she used it didn't suppress her magic like Credence did as otherwise she would likely have just broken or gotten rid of it. Hence why she never became an Obscurial like her adoptive brother.
- Or she was never forced to suppress it because all her accidental magic got blamed on Credence.
- It seems doubtful that Jacob would be much of a threat to The Masquerade. The dead senator's brother, on the other hand...
- Seeing as, by the time the novels happen (the 1990s), The Masquerade is still securely in place, this is unlikely.
- Alternatively, an Obscurus/an Obscurial's transformation is the magical equivalent of.... whatever caused Giygas' psionics-based powers to turn him into that red abomination.
- Great depression aside, Newt states that American wizards "aren't supposed to (even) befriend muggles". Even visiting Jacob in his bakery would probably get stern looks from other US magic users. In the UK, conversely, Jacob and Queenie are not only allowed to get married, Jacob is legally allowed to be in on the masquerade once he's formally recognized as her spouse.
- Not to mention, if memory serves from Harry's point of view at the start of the first book, he was just convinced that strange things happened around him, not really that he actually caused them- he had no explanation how for example the wig of the teacher was turned blue or how his hair grew back overnight or how the fugly sweater of Dudley's shrank until it would have maybe fit a chihuahua but certainly not Harry, all he knew that it wasn't his doing. Meaning he was convinced that he had no way of stopping it so he didn't even subconsciously try to suppress the magic he had no idea he had. This despite the idea that the Dursley treated these incidents as being caused by Harry (except the sweater, that one got blamed on a washing program too hot for the fabric fortunately), because it did not compute in Harry's mind how it could be his fault and he probably just chalked it up to his relatives being pointlessly and needlessly cruel as they were wont to do.
- Rowling says Harry didn’t become an Obscurial because he didn’t know he was a wizard. Assuming Ariana Dumbledore was one too, it makes sense that Albus never tried to make contact with Harry as a kid. If he knew the Dursleys were doing this to beat out the magic, he’d be like Creedence.
- Considering Rowling wrote the script and is generally pretty good with her own family trees, that seems unlikely. More likely Leta will a non-ancestral relative (great-aunt or similar) of Rodolphus and/or marry into the Black family to become an ancestor of Bellatrix, because purebloods love inbreeding. Or, she may have a Heel–Face Turn and end up marrying a Weasley!
- Confirmed, she's an illegitimate child
- According to Rowling, America doesn't have the same kind of blood purity culture that Britain does. Intermarriage with Muggleborns is encouraged even as marrying actual Muggles is strictly prohibited. So the more loudly pureblood supremacist families of Europe are probably somewhat infamous in America. Especially if they are prone to denouncing Americans as "Mudbloods" at international wizarding gatherings. This would parallel Muggle social trends, such as the often contemptuous attitude that "old money" families (especially titled aristocrats) commonly expressed towards the "nouveau riche". It's worth noting that America's wizarding school, Ilvermorny, was founded by a runaway descendant of the Gaunt family who went on to marry a No-Maj. This would probably not be something overlooked by families that take Slytherin's teachings seriously. Even though she does not love Newt, Leta may not take kindly to him "replacing" her with Tina.
- Note that the third film depicts Grindelwald running for SUPREME MUGWUMP. Although he clearly failed, what if the very fact that he nearly succeeded in becoming one coupled with all the horrifying things he did made the ICW so terrified of the idea of another Grindelwald emerging that they decided to cover his reign of terror as much as they could?
- Confirmed, essentially, by this announcement, which reveals that an updated version of the Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them book will be coming out in March, which "will include a foreword by Rowling writing as Magizoologist Newt Scamander, new artwork and a batch of new beasts."
- No need to confirm it that way. We definitely know the book we currently have is abridged, and this was obvious from the day it was released- Dumbledore's forward mentions something that isn't actually addressed in the book despite citing the curing Puffskeins of drinking toilet water as a reason people pick up the book. In fact, this tendency isn't even mentioned in the Puffskein entry. Plus, creatures that definitely existed in the series at the time the book was written were not in it, such as Boggarts (mentioned in the third book, which came well before the Beasts book was published two years later).
- Boggarts' level of intelligence is unclear, so it's possible that they qualify as "Beings" rather than "Beasts".
- This might even help mitigate or even erase the Fridge Horror mentioned about the Great Depression possibly hurting or even destroying Jacob's business since there's no evidence that No-Maj business is closely tied enough to magical business to cause them to both suffer that disaster so wizards and witches will frequent Jacob's business to help him get by until the No-Majs finally pull themselves out of the hole the Great Depression created.
However as time goes on and the Second World War ignites, they become increasingly brutal and as fanatical as the people they are fighting against. Possibly even to the point where they start using Grindelwalds own philosophy ("for the greater good") as justifications for their actions. We could even have a scene where Graves confronts Dumbledore over his inaction against his old friend. In the end Graves may become an tragic antagonist that has to be stopped because he has become just as dangerous as his supposed enemy.
- Unless Grindelwald wasn't the proper owner yet; he initially stole the Elder Wand from Gregorovitch rather than defeating him in a duel, and we never saw them fight in that flashback. Maybe that will happen later, making Grindelwald become the true owner.
- Does that mean that someone has to win its allegiance, then Grindelwald has to win it "back" to be its master?
- Note that the third film depicts Grindelwald running for SUPREME MUGWUMP. Although he clearly failed, what if the very fact that he nearly succeeded in becoming one coupled with all the horrifying things he did made the ICW so terrified of the idea of another Grindelwald emerging that they decided to cover his reign of terror as much as they could?