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Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

AzuraBlu22 Since: May, 2016
#3976: Aug 21st 2017 at 10:44:41 AM

Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu Heartwarming Page:

Black Butler Anime/Manga Character Page: Ciel Phantomhive

  • No Social Skills: In the flashback of chapter 131, Ciel used to be very shy around guests and had a habit of hiding from them. The only people he feels comfortable talking to were his relatives, Tanaka, and his twin brother.
  • The Un Favourite: Exploited. In the past, Ciel believes to be one since his father choose his twin brother to be the next successor to the Phantomhive Company instead of him. Due to his asthma he inherit from his mother and lack of social skills, he is unfit to become the next heir.

edited 22nd Aug '17 12:33:28 PM by AzuraBlu22

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3977: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:37:28 AM

[up]

  • he's willing ask his comrades from the previous mission to rejoined ->
    • he's willing to ask his comrades from the previous mission to rejoin
  • Whether or not -> It's not clear whether or not
  • to help him to keep -> to help him to keep
  • an atonement for unable to save -> an atonement for being unable to save
  • flashback -> Flash Back

This isn't an English correction. Blue Linking the Wiki Word makes it easier for readers to click on it and look it up.

  • The only people he feels comfortable talking to -> The only people he felt comfortable talking to
  • In the past, Ciel believes to be one since his father choose ->
    • In the past, Ciel was believed to be one since his father chose
  • Due to his asthma he inherit from his mother -> Due to the asthma he inherited from his mother

edited 23rd Aug '17 6:37:51 AM by Arivne

vin13ish Since: Jan, 2015
#3978: Aug 23rd 2017 at 10:16:51 PM

I need a help to fix my grammar problem.

What's the difference between Had, Have, Has? I tend to use "Have" a lot TBH.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3979: Aug 24th 2017 at 6:27:57 AM

[up]

  • Had is the past tense of have.
  • Has is the "third-person singular present tense" of have.

Here are some examples of how they're used:

  • I have some doubts about that.
  • He had lots of time to think after he went to prison.
  • She has a tremendous singing voice.

edited 24th Aug '17 6:28:23 AM by Arivne

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#3980: Aug 24th 2017 at 6:36:36 AM

And let's not get into various complex tenses, like the past conditional: "Alice would have had to go to the store if Bob hadn't had a fully stocked fridge." cool

Ooh, here's more! Conditional perfect progressive: "We would have been having a party right now if Charlie had remembered the beer."

http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/have.html

edited 24th Aug '17 6:43:18 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Franco-America2018 Since: Jun, 2017
#3981: Aug 27th 2017 at 1:19:46 PM

I got suspended from editing like hours ago without me noticing until now because I'm trying too hard to get my grammar and spelling fixes in same few pages like few to several times within day.

And I already know that I'm suffered from (maybe) Autism/Asperger's or some other Neurological disorder to explain of why the majority of them are pretty messed up.

So someone least helping me to get improve my English until it's the right time for me of no longer suspended.

edited 27th Aug '17 2:47:18 PM by Franco-America2018

AzuraBlu22 Since: May, 2016
#3982: Aug 27th 2017 at 5:04:43 PM

Touken Ranbu Characters: Kotogiri Gou

  • Agent Peacock: He's sometimes fixation on his appearance and doesn't like getting his clothes ruin or torn and has to fixed it. However, unlike Kashuu, he doesn't mind being send into battle or do chores during Internal Affairs.

Tokyo Ghoul :Re Characters: Roma Hoito

  • Off with Her Head!: Roma gets killed for real when Urie finish her off by impaling her detached head after he cut off her head.
Iwao Kuroiwa

Robbyn Since: Aug, 2017
#3983: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:19:40 AM

For UFO Robo Grendizer (character: Gandal in Villains)

  • Pragmatic Villainy: Lady Gandal appears to be out for her own benefit taking advantage of any situation she can to take control. When she understand that Failure Is the Only Option against Grendizer, Lady Gandal even attempted to kill King Vega so that she could live in peace.
  • Undying Loyalty: Gandal is extremely loyal to King Vega. When Lady Gandal almost shot Vega, Gandal took control of the body and killed Lady Gandal by shooting himself in the eye and decided to spend the last of his life in battle against the Grendizer.
  • Women Are Wiser: Gandal strategies are rather mediocre as tend to be focused purely on brute force. Lady Gandal strategies are more pragmatic often coming closer to success than Gandal.

edited 28th Aug '17 3:16:16 AM by Robbyn

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3984: Aug 28th 2017 at 4:20:16 AM

[up][up] @Azura Blu 22

  • He's sometimes fixation on his appearance -> He's sometimes fixated on his appearance
  • doesn't like getting his clothes ruin or torn and has to fixed it ->
    • doesn't like getting his clothes ruined or torn and has to fix them
  • being send into battle or do chores -> being sent into battle or doing chores
  • Roma gets killed for real when Urie finish her off by impaling her detached head after he cut off her head.
    • Roma gets killed for real when Urie cuts off her head and finishes her off by impaling her detached head.

  • He lost his entire right arm by Roma after she torn it completely. ->
    • He loses his entire right arm when Roma tears it completely off.

How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense

  • He gets killed by Kichimura through his throat with a katana. ->
    • He is killed by Kichimura putting a katana through his throat.

edited 28th Aug '17 4:22:55 AM by Arivne

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3985: Aug 28th 2017 at 4:31:14 AM

[up][up] @Robbyn

  • her own benefit taking advantage -> her own benefit, taking advantage
  • When she understand that -> When she understands that
  • even attempted to kill King Vega so that she could live in peace.
    • even attempts to kill King Vega so that she can live in peace.

How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense

  • When Lady Gandal almost shot Vega, Gandal took control of the body and killed ->
    • When Lady Gandal almost shoots Vega, Gandal takes control of the body and kills
  • the eye and decided to spend the last of his life -> EITHER
    • the eye. He decides to spend the rest of his life OR
    • the eye. He decides to spend the end of his life

I can't tell what you meant by "spend the last of his life".

  • Gandal strategies are rather mediocre as tend -> Gandal's strategies are rather mediocre, as they tend
  • Lady Gandal strategies are more pragmatic often -> Lady Gandal's strategies are more pragmatic, often

edited 28th Aug '17 4:33:03 AM by Arivne

Robbyn Since: Aug, 2017
#3986: Aug 28th 2017 at 8:44:06 AM

[up]Thanks.

For the same page (character: Zuril in Villains)

  • Evil Genius: Zuril is an expert in technology and biology. He is involved in the creation of the Saucer Beasts as well as further developments of the Vega Beasts.
  • Green-Eyed Monster: His hatred for Duke is further explained when Zuril reveals he had feelings for Rubina, Duke's fiance.
  • Murder the Hypotenuse: In episode 72, he followed Rubina to Earth, thinking that if he succeeded destroying Grendizer and Duke Fleed using Rubina as bait, he will be married to Rubina.

Jhimmibhob Since: Dec, 2010
#3987: Aug 28th 2017 at 8:55:48 AM

[up]

  • Duke's fiance —> Duke's fiancée
  • if he succeeded destroying —> if he succeeded in destroying
  • Duke Fleed using Rubina as bait, —> Duke Fleed, using Rubina as bait,

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3988: Aug 29th 2017 at 3:46:31 AM

[up][up] @Robbyn

  • succeeded in destroying -> succeeds in destroying

edited 30th Aug '17 2:46:50 AM by Arivne

HaplessCrocodilian Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
#3989: Aug 30th 2017 at 4:35:43 AM

13 Reasons Why

Add this to Fridge Horror: Liberty High School Itself! The school environment is terrible, judging from the graffiti on the bathroom stalls, how the students treat each other, and other factors. This place makes Degrassi, Sunnydale High, or Riverdale High look normal.

AzuraBlu22 Since: May, 2016
#3990: Aug 30th 2017 at 10:30:37 AM

Thank you so much Arivne.

Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu Awesome Page:

  • The Second Unit travel through time in their sword forms before they fully materialized in their human form as they arrive at their destination in the past in the most epic way.

edited 30th Aug '17 7:54:03 PM by AzuraBlu22

Robbyn Since: Aug, 2017
#3991: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:35:30 AM

For Scooby-Doo Direct-to-Video Film Series (half of them are Cross Wicking, but i want check the same).

    Scooby-Doo: Stage Fright 

Phantom

The Phantom of the Chicago Opera house in Scooby-Doo! Stage Fright.


  • Badass Baritone: His magnificent, hooting Evil Laugh.
  • Legacy Character: The original Phantom bedeviled the Opera House back during it's "disco hall" phase in the 70's. His disguise is used by other four different people for independent reasons.
    • The first and possibly "main" Phantom to appear was Crissy's father, who was out to sabotage the other contestants so that Crissy would win. This is the "CRISSY MUST WIN" Phantom.
    • The other main Phantom is Dewey Ottoman, who moonlights as a high-profile thief and is using the whole thing as a cover so he can steal a diamond while the cops are distracted. This is the lemon-scented Phantom.
    • Mel Richmond is attempting to burn down the Opera House to collect the insurance and get rid of the drain on his finances. Notably, he only started doing this well after the first two Phantoms began their sprees (if not the very scene he was caught) and was merely using the opportunity to avoid suspicion.
    • Brick Pimiento was the last Phantom to be rounded up; he was exploiting the attacks to raise hype for the show and can be presumed to be the cause of the Phantom's command of the cameras. He's guilty of abetting criminals at the very least by exaggerating their effects and hindering the police. Like Mel, he seemed to have been using the opportunity, so he started later.
  • Shout-Out: Of the The Phantom of the Opera naturally.

Brick Pimiento

The host of Talent Star.


  • Catchphrase: "Fantastic!"
  • Kick The Son Of A Bitch: After Chrissy rudely pushes Brick out of the way after her act, he coldly tells her her father's been arrested before her mother can break the news to her gently.
  • Suspiciously Specific Denial: Brick Pimiento concludes his self-introduction with, "...and there's definitely no ghost."

Dewey Ottoman

The assistant director of Talent Star.


  • Establishing Character Moment: Dewey's slightly neurotic obsession with cleanliness is on display from the very beginning.
    Dewey: The garbage in this trash can is filthy. I want this garbage cleaned at once!
  • Obfuscating Stupidity: Not stupidity per se, but Dewey Ottoman seems to exaggerate his germ obsession and puts forth a frail, neurotic disposition - including fainting several times at the mere mention of the Phantom. As a result, the gang agrees that he's creepy but don't seriously consider him as the Phantom. Boy are they wrong - turns out he's an international thief, and during the final Car Chase though he's still foppish and clean he drops the act almost entirely. He even gets covered with gunk and trash several times and outright ignores it in his pursuit of the Soap Diamond.
  • Terrified of Germs: He is compulsive about cleanliness, especially worried about the germs carried by dogs. Turns out to be what gives him away as one of the Phantoms. The lemon scent that Shaggy and Scooby picked up during their encounter with the Phantom was probably his hand sanitizer.

Chrissy Damon

A young singer and guitarist.


  • Foil: To Ema, the sweetheart violinist with folksy folks who are hoping to win the cash prize to save their farm.
  • Forehead of Doom
  • Jerkass: She is aggressive, selfish, and spoiled. She was aware that her father was cheating to help her win the TV talent contest, and she agreed with him doing it.
  • Spoiled Brat
  • StageParents: Both her parents who are also her manager. His father Lance attempts to steal Emma Gale's violin.
  • Troubling Unchild Like Behaviour: She and her song, "Homewrecker". She spends the whole movie in a strapless dress and Opera Gloves, and she's not even a teenager.
    Velma: For a girl her age, that song seems a little... extremely inappropriate.
    Fred: Yeah.
    Daphne: Very extremely.

Emma Gale

A young violinist.


  • Foil: To Chrissy, the Spoiled Brat singer with two StageParents.
  • Little Miss Snarker: Downplayed. She has a very subtle strain of snark that you have to pay attention to notice.
    Fred: Wow, Emma, you do make better bait than us!
  • Minnesota Nice: She and her parents, though Emma's accent is more subtle than her parents' accents.
  • Nice Girl / The Pollyanna: Emma loves everybody, is extremely kind, very sportsman-like (especially in contrast to the other contestants), makes instant friends with Fred and Daphne and even seem to be rooting for them at some points. She and her folks are such incredibly good people that the viewer seem almost expected to think it's an act and one of them is the Phantom, especially after we find out that they need to win the competition to pay off their debts. It isn't. They really are that good.

Lotte Lavoie

A female singer.


  • Establishing Character Moment: Lotte's grand entrance into the pizza joint, looking for Shaggy and Scooby. Before getting down to business, she spends a few minutes signing autographs, and by signing them, we mean carving the letters of her name into an old man's tongue.
  • Evil Diva: She is very aggressive and violent.
  • Expy: She is one for La Carlotta—the Phantom even does the "change the throat spray" trick from the 2004 movie. (Her name is actually pronounced "Lotta").
  • Kick the Dog: Lotte Lavoie refuses to give a fangirl an autograph because of her poor fashion sense and is remorseless while watching her run off in tears.
    Lotte: Yeah, yeah, you better run!
  • Wolverine Claws: Lotte brandishes her footlong fingernails like weapons and can stab and carve through walls with them. She occasionally uses them to sign her name into others' clothes and flesh.

Waldo

A ventriloquist. In his act he sits in the lap of his large dummy.


  • Chick Magnet: He is a confident ladies' man. He flirted with the members of Girl-O-Saurus Rex, and they fought over who would date him.

Girl-o-saurus Rex

A female gothic dinosaur-styled band


  • No Name Given: The members of Girl-o-saurus Rex are named Cathy, Nancy, Donna, and Amy... but you'd be forgiven for not knowing that; the only time they're named is when one of the girls gets snippy with Cathy for being too much of a Genki Girl.
  • Perky Goth: Cathy, the green haired member. The other members are pretty perky as well, but are a little bit better at hiding it. Slightly.
    Cathy: (high pitched giggle) Omigosh. We are so metal!

Pauldini

A stage magician.


Mel Richmond

The owner of the Opera house where Talent Star was holding its finals.


Steve Trilby

A hermit who lived in the Chicago sewers, who haunted the opera house as the first Phantom.


  • "Could Have Avoided This!" Plot: He isolated himself from society and eventually went on his rampage because he believed he was too deformed to be accepted. Turns out he's he only owned a fun house mirror and doesn't really look that bad.
  • Reformed Criminal: He was the first Phantom to terrorize the opera house, when it was a disco. After he was found by the gang and he realized he wasn't ugly he reformed and helped the gang capture one of the other phantoms.

edited 31st Aug '17 7:37:23 AM by Robbyn

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3992: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:59:31 AM

[up][up][up] @Hapless Crocodilian

  • Liberty High School Itself! -> Liberty High School itself!
  • how the students treat each other, and other factors -> how the students treat each other and other factors

You might want to Pot Hole the names of the series under "Degrassi, Sunnydale High, or Riverdale High" to make it easier for the reader to look them up.

You said that this is for Fridge Horror. That page requires that the realization be "terrifying" or the equivalent of Nightmare Fuel.

I can't find anything in your post that indicates that the depiction of the school rises to that level.

I mean, "graffiti on the bathroom stalls"? Come on. :)

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3993: Aug 31st 2017 at 8:03:05 AM

[up][up][up] @Azura Blu 22

  • The Second Unit travel through time -> The Second Unit travels through time
  • before they fully materialized -> before they fully materialize

How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense

  • they arrive...in the most epic way.

How is their method of arrival "epic"? Without that information this is a Zero-Context Example.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#3994: Aug 31st 2017 at 8:15:06 AM

[up][up][up] @Robbyn

  • but i want check the same -> but I want to check the same (the same what?)

  • during it's "disco hall" phase -> during its "disco hall" phase
  • used by other four different people -> used by four other different people
  • was Crissy's father, who was out to sabotage the other contestants so that Crissy would win ->
    • is Crissy's father, who is out to sabotage the other contestants so that Crissy will win
  • Like Mel, he seemed to -> Like Mel, he seems to

^ ^^ How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense

  • during the final Car Chase though he's -> during the final Car Chase, though he's
  • Turns out to be what gives him away -> This turns out to be what gives him away
  • Both her parents who are also her manager. -> Both her parents, who are also her managers.

  • Stage Magician -> This is a Zero-Context Example. What does he do that makes him one?
  • who's married to real-life magician, Misty Lee. -> who's married to real-life magician Misty Lee.

  • Turns out he's he only -> Turns out he's he only
  • realized he wasn't ugly he reformed -> realized he wasn't ugly, he reformed

edited 31st Aug '17 8:16:33 AM by Arivne

simonsolly from Sestri Levante, Italy Since: Sep, 2016
#3995: Aug 31st 2017 at 9:59:58 AM

For My Hero Academia - Students From Other Classes

For Mirio Togata:

  • Badass Cape: His superhero costume sports a cape, and it's not just for show: it becomes useful during the battle against Chisaki.

While in My Hero Academia - Shi Hassaikai

For Shino Nemoto (in the "eight bullets" folder, he's the last one)

  • Determinator : Despite being disarmed and hit three times in the skull by Mirio, he's still counscious and cralws to help his boss, Chisaki.
  • Dark Is Evil: He wears only black, and is a member of the yakuza.
  • Undying Loyalty: To Chisaki, because he's the first friend he can trust.

jameygamer Since: May, 2014
#3996: Aug 31st 2017 at 4:13:12 PM

[up] Conscious and Crawls are both misspelled. Otherwise, it looks good to me.

simonsolly from Sestri Levante, Italy Since: Sep, 2016
#3998: Sep 1st 2017 at 10:08:33 AM

Thanks, this is the corrected version.

For My Hero Academia - Students From Other Classes

For Mirio Togata:

  • Badass Cape: His superhero costume sports a cape, and it's not just for show: it becomes useful during the battle against Chisaki.

While in My Hero Academia - Shi Hassaikai

For Shino Nemoto (in the "eight bullets" folder, he's the last one)

  • Determinator : Despite being disarmed and hit three times in the skull by Mirio, he's still conscious and crawls to help his boss, Chisaki.
  • Dark Is Evil: He wears only black, and is a member of the yakuza.
  • Undying Loyalty: To Chisaki, because he's the first friend he can trust.

If someone can do these little edits for me, he/she would do a great favour :)

Franco-America2018 Since: Jun, 2017
#3999: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:59:58 PM

Ok, I start using this example as a start.

Like this one from Trivia Section of Missing Information

Development Hell: Their updates having this effect like their last major update (1.6) happen 6 years ago. And again like Black Mesa example, it's likely due to having a small team of not finishing in time, However, unlike Black Mesa team they are isolated of what time their next update/release of mod will happen.

Game Mod: There only known collaboration pack that contains 44 maps and some improvements or fixes for Missing Information content that work in both mods.note

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#4000: Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:12:12 AM

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  • I start using this example as a start. -> I'll start with this example as a start.

  • Their updates having this effect like their last major update (1.6) happen 6 years ago. ->
    • Their updates count: their last major update (v1.6) occurred 6 years ago.

  • And again like Black Mesa example

This violates How to Write an Example - Remember That This Is A Wiki because it's referring to another example.

  • it's likely due to having a small team of not finishing in time, ->
    • It's likely due to having a small team of not finishing in time.

This sentence should end with a period.

  • unlike Black Mesa team - Same as above.
  • they are isolated of what time their next update/release of mod will happen. ->
    • They don't know when their next mod update/release will occur.

I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to say so I can't guarantee my correction is accurate.

  • There only known collaboration pack that -> Their only known collaboration pack, that
  • Missing Information content -> missing information content

There doesn't appear to be a reason for "missing information" to be capitalized.

  • mods.note -> mods.

edited 3rd Sep '17 5:13:03 AM by Arivne


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