Real Life People Cleanup Project

Cleaned up the following:

• Franklin D. Roosevelt
• Harry Truman
• Dwight D. Eisenhower
• John F. Kennedy
• Lyndon Johnson
• Jimmy Carter
• Ronald Reagan
• George H. W. Bush
• Bill Clinton
• George Washington
• John Adams
• Thomas Jefferson
• Wu Zetian
• Vladimir Putin
• Uesugi Kenshin
• Tutankhamun
• Thomas Becket
• Thomas Edison

U.S. presidents have now all been done.

edited 4th Aug '15 1:20:08 AM by phoenix

Working on Heads of State. Removed real life troping from the following:

• Wilt Chamberlain
• Qin Shi Huangdi
• National Reorganization Process
• Ramses II
• Fulgencio Batista
• Cleopatra VII
• Gustav Mannerheim
• Maria Theresa
• Frederick the Great
• Benjamin Netanyahu
• David Ben-Gurion
• Cyrus the Great
• Date Masamune
• António de Oliveira Salazar
• Einar Gerhardsen
• Pompey the Great
• Gaius Julius Caesar
• Augustus
• Nero

Tried to cleanup Olivia Holt.

You may wanna hold off on that pending the discussion over here about the Real Life troping policy.

What a joke, trying to be like Wikipedia and enforce "notability" on a site like this.

"The wiki is called "TV Tropes" because TV is where we started. Over the course of a few years, our scope has crept out to include other media. Tropes transcend television. They reflect life. Since a lot of art, especially the popular arts, does its best to reflect life, tropes are likely to show up everywhere."

Wonder what happened to that motto? I'll make sure not to make any edits here again.

Bye Felicia.

That passage was never phrased well. The sweeping statement that tropes generally "reflect life" is wrong. They may reflect life, or they may not. Art may try to reflect life, or it may not.

Our "There Is No Such Thing as Notability" policy means that every tropable work can get a page on the wiki, and that is not under discussion. It makes no statement about the tropability of real life, and has nothing to do with this dicussion.

edited 9th Aug '15 8:53:43 AM by LordGro

Indeed, many tropes specifically reflect how a work doesn't reflect life.

Question here, I looked at the policy and it is always referring to Real Life individual persons, is this applicable when dealing with pages about real life historical groups or organizations?

EDIT: Drat, posted in the wrong thread. This should be in "Real life section maintenance".

edited 11th Nov '15 2:18:16 AM by Morgenthaler

The Trope Pantheon has several entries about Real Life people like Albert Einstein and Gary Gygax. Should this be allowed?

edited 24th Dec '15 3:45:07 PM by Karxrida

?

I don't think we really care about the Pantheon unless it becomes libel or overly gushy or that sort of thing.

I would disagree about not caring because the Pantheon has a large amount of inbounds (over 5,000 for the hub page last I checked) and the site is hosting it.

Also just remembered that they are given Character Alignments, which at the very least needs to be looked into.

edited 9th Jan '16 2:28:04 AM by Karxrida

The Barack Obama page has some issues, i.e. his administration and personal life is being troped on the page. It should presumably be pared down to tropes dealing with how he's portrayed in fiction, much like the current state of the Bill Clinton page.

edited 3rd Nov '16 3:09:50 AM by Morgenthaler

Creator.RL Yoshi exists. It's a bit of a stub, but it seems completely superfluous considering everything media-related is covered under LetsPlay.RL Yoshi.

And then there's the fact that it specifically says "Tropes about Max go here," which is just an entire page of tropes applied to real life people.

edited 9th Dec '16 12:13:44 PM by Larkmarn

Cut the Yoshi page!

Just the creator page, or the Characters page as well?

edited 9th Dec '16 12:14:12 PM by Larkmarn

Given that Let's Play are still personas, like stage music acts or wrestling, I don't see a problem with a Characters page, so long as they aren't discussing "off-screen" type behaviour.

I think we have a spill of borderline creepiness on aisle Kim Kardashian. I'm not sure any of the tropes can be salvaged.

Seconded. Fire the salted nukesaw!

There's maybe one or two entries that could work (Famous for Being Famous is how she is often portrayed in media, for example), but that's it. I don't think we'd miss much by burning it.

Ok, here's a bizarre page: Creator.David Duke.

First of all, I think it's in the wrong namespace. Duke isn't an author/screenwriter/actor, or anything like that. He's a white supremacist and politician. So, if we're going to have a page, it should be in Useful Notes.

Second, the only thing on the page other that a brief description of the man is a statement that he was once featured in the Doonesbury comic. I am not sure that's enough to justify a Useful Notes page.

My inclination would be to toss the whole thing on the cut list. Not because I think he's an evil SOB (we have plenty of pages for evil SOBs), but because I don't think he's relevant enough to the wiki's mission.

But I'd like a second opinion.

I'm pretty sure the threshold for "notable media presence" is that the person in question must have appeared in three or more works of fiction. So yes, to the ash heap it must go.

I thought we weren't supposed to be using the N word (no, not that one ).