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resolved Will D.B. Cooper ever get a page?
I always wondered why D.B. Cooper never had a Useful Notes TV Tropes page. Is there something preventing it from happening or did people forget he existed? I kind of wanna know why exactly?
resolved Potential edit warring on Peter and Company Webcomic
A while back, legendaryweredragon left a red link on the page way back in 2021 on the Peter and Company page that said the following:
"The comic also has a sequel called Peter And Whitney which skips ahead to the characters in their college days after the guardians have left them."
I had decided to hide it due to the fact that I remember reading that red links were frowned upon. I check the page a while later and I see that, without any sort of discussion or atleast an edit note, they undid my edit which I'm pretty sure is considered edit warring given the lack of the former reason. Was there any sort of discussion either on ATT or in PMs with someone apart of admin before this change was made?
Edited by Stardust5099openWho has the most experience with Joke Characters? Videogame
Earlier today, I created the Analysis.Joke Character page, where I tried to explain the different ways these characters are made (such as being underpowered, having unbalanced splats, or having hindering gimmicks).
I initially wanted to also add one example for each variety to better explain the situations: for example, I wanted to put Magma Rager for the "Only One Good Stat" category, Farfetch'd (specifically the Pokémon Yellow incarnation) in "Wrong Person At The Wrong Place", and one of the secret characters from Gourmet Fighters for "Literally Unplayable".
But I couldn't think of examples (that I knew of) that would fit the "Bad Perfomances" and "Built This Way" categories.
Is there a place in this site where I can ask for suggestions?
Edited by TMH-Sir-Iron-VomitopenAsian Animation Anime
So I was seriously considering making a media page for the Mix Master cartoon from the 2000s; since it is a South Korean-Japanese production, what page type should I use? Does it count as an anime? Or is just Asian Animation?
I was looking at the staff on the Wikipedia page, and the voice actors are mostly Japanese while the producers are mostly Korean; not sure if it matters in this situation.
openLinking to Character pages in trope examples
I was asked about this in a PM but since I didn't have an answer and I've been curious about it myself lately I'll ask it here.
Over the past several months I've noticed people embedding links to Character pages in trope examples (Especially Character Specific Page) and while it doesn't feel right to me I'm not sure if that's actually against the rules or not.
Edited by rmctagg09openMinimum size for work-specific trope page
Do work-specific trope pages (something like Final Fantasy or Total War) require a minimum size before they're allowed to be split from the main trope page?
resolved TRS crowner
There is an active crowner for Nice to the Waiter at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
resolved Ace Ventura Western Animation
Greetings, tropers.
Right now I'm interested in giving the animated Ace Ventura series its own page, but I have a question. Officially, the series is known as Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (just like the movie), but the only redirect to the movie's page that refers to the series is Ace Ventura: The Animated Series.
Where should I make the page for the series? In a new Ace Ventura: Pet Detective page with the Western Animation subpage? Or the existing Ace Ventura: The Animated Series redirect? Thanks in advance!
Edited by MyFinalEditsopenFanwork-Only Fans questions
I have several questions about Fanwork-Only Fans:
- YMMV.Yu Gi Oh Forbidden Memories has one regarding fan mods (covered by Come for the Game, Stay for the Mods). Practically every other FOF entry I've seen is about the series/franchise in its entirety, not just individual episodes/installments (I assume because being fans of the rest is Fanon Discontinuity instead). Does or should that limit in scope apply to FOF? Or is it just not this game that qualifies as it has a more fitting item covering it?
- YMMV.My Immortal "The fic has reached such huge infamy that many are fans of it without having read or watched the Harry Potter series." I believe this misuse as something that should go under the Harry Potter page as the works subject to such, and that fanworks are exempt as examples are instead Recursive Fanfiction (I might have asked but can't recall). Thoughts about these?
- Sandbox.Enjoy The Setting Ignore The Story was made, then given to me once the creator lost interest. I'm wondering if that's too redundant with FOF (maybe make it a redirect), or worth keeping separate. Thoughts?
- YMMV.RWBY "The series has a vocal amount of fans (and even haters) who adore the setting and characters, but not the show itself. As such, many of them are drawn towards fan works, with some of the most well-known ones even promoting themselves as being improved retellings of the show's narrative." My impression was was FOF requires they never even check out the work, but how can they know enough about it do dislike the canon handling unless they follow/watch enough about it Fanon Discontinuity is a better fit? And/or is this were Enjoy the Setting, Ignore the Story might be a better fit?
While Trope Talk seems the best place to ask, I'm concerned this might be too broad/too many separate questions for a single thread, so I'm being here first to sort out/see if other thread might be the better place to ask some of these questions.
openCleaning up Trivia
I couldn't find an appropriate thread in the Forums, so I'm posting this here. Death Note has a General Trivia section with several questionable entries. This includes:
- Listing things that are covered by tropes like Freeze-Frame Bonus, All There in the Manual and Dub-Induced Plot Hole.
- Listing things that are covered by YMMV items such as Fridge Brilliance and Genius Bonus.
- Armchair psychology, speculation that two characters are autistic.
- Apparently nonsensical entries: Noting that it's impossible to pilot a vehicle while squatting; noting that a character is sitting most of the time but stands up in one scene.
I have no intention of unilaterally making such a large change to the article, so I would like to hear other tropers' opinions. Should this section remain on the page?
openWMG/TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness
I discovered that WMG.The Omniscient Council Of Vagueness was cut, arguing that it was WMG "for a trope". But this isn't true. It was one of the WMG.Grand Unifying Guesses; iirc the joke was that characters across fiction were on such a council. Should it be revived, perhaps under a different name?
Edited by WarJay77openFranchise Question
Recently, I created a range for the BBC Books releases of the series Torchwood. With this, the parent show, and Torchwood: The Lost Files, there's enough there to warrant a Franchise page which I am thinking of making as well. However, what makes this case a bit murky to me is that Torchwood is a Spin-Off of Doctor Who, which in of itself is a franchise. Additionally, Torchwood material is already covered by the Doctor Who Expanded Universe. Could the franchise page still be created or what would the protocol be here?
Edited by HoloMew151resolved Smh (Scratch my head)
Is there a particular layout that headscratcher pages are meant to obey? I ask this because I've noticed they're not always consistent across different works. For example, the headscratcher page for Rick and Morty uses a folder for each entry, Cave Story's uses folders to group them by topic with each entry being a bullet point, and Despicable Me's uses headings, making it look like a WMG page. I'm sure this is answered somewhere in Text Formatting Rules or Administrivia, but i was unable to find it.
If the answer is yes, then should these pages be changed?
resolved What's the difference between an example-less supertrope and a definition-only page?
A definition-only page is something that has been judged too common or too policy-breaking (amongst other reasons) to be either listed as an example or have examples listed. Yet, its definition has been deemed as within the scope of the wiki.
An example-less Super-Trope, as far as I've gathered, is a Super-Trope to so many sub-tropes that finding examples not included by the latter is nigh impossible. I've seen this as both an unintended result of new tropes coming in and a legitimate proposal in TRS.
Now, this seems separate enough on paper (after all, def-only page not necessarily has sub-tropes) but, in reality, how is it different when a troper in the TRS suggests either? A super-trope with no examples is technically allowed to have off-page examples, I guess, but then what makes it different than a no on-page examples page?
Another doubt I have is what's the point of making a trope example-less?
Edited by AsterlixopenIs this edit okay?
Some time before, I made an edit relating to The Thundermans on the Unwitting Muggle Friend page, but it got changed and altered; I added it back in today with more detail. I'm worried is this edit warring?
openAll For One and Tomura Shigaraki Pages
So, is it too early or too late to add recent updates regarding Tomura Shigaraki and All For One's pages? Particularly that All For One was the true Big Bad this whole time and Tomura was just a pawn this whole time thinking he was the Big Bad?
openAvoiding an edit war
While re-reading the Return of the Wolf Man page, I found its Trivia page had been cut because the trope there was "not Trivia" and also "plus it's a book so there are no actors"; however, I recall reading it before, and I think it's still a valid example for the main work page.
Since it had been deleted, re-adding the entry would probably constitute an edit was... so I'm asking here, would it be permissible to re-add this recreated entry (not an exact duplicate, since I was unable to find an archive of it)?
- Actor Allusion: Early on, the book describes what happened to Chick Young and Wilbur Gray after the events of Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein and suggests places they might have gone after the film, referencing multiple other films by their actors:
The men left their LaMirada hotel room the day they returned. Some people said they assumed aliases and went to Mexico; others claimed they went to Africa; some maintained they'd joined the Foreign Legion. Whatever the truth, they never returned to LaMirada.
Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
resolved Ellen and Otis: Gone Horribly Wrong Literature
On the page for Ellen and Otis, the example for Gone Horribly Wrong reads as follows:
However, she doesn't get in trouble for taking the beet without permission, she isn't shown being written up, and she does get to clap erasers during recess, which is why she brought the beet to school in the first place. So, does this really count as an example of GHW, or is it some other trope?
openFormatting help
Hi, I'm just asking if we have a formatting guide or something like that with info on how to insert links to tropes and such, or if the site has an internal system that doesn't work with hyperlinks.
This was added to YMMV.Komi Cant Communicate by OneBoiledPotato
Revision by Perentie:
This was removed by skan123 for being contradictory.
Later, OneBoiledPotato adds this saying the contradiction is fixed.
Is it fine?