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resolved where would memes go on a page if there aren't enough memes? Videogame
i want to list some memes on the regretevator pages but im not exactly sure which page it would go on since it seems like there's not enough examples to be one whole page. can someone help?
resolved Trolling, edit warring Videogame
User Calm Hill Of Treasures,
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=CalmHillOfTreasures
has been engaging in blatant agenda-based edit warring and trolling on the ymmv page for Unicorn Overlord,
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/UnicornOverlord
Their particular focus is the Woolseyism trope (a noisy minority of chuds on twitter have raised a big stink over the localization).
Calm Hill has ignored invitations to discuss issues they have with the example, their edit reasons have been utter nonsense (citing Zero Context Examples despite including more than sufficient context), they've deleted Les Yay and Ho Yay from the same page because, "Grammar", they deleted a Crowning Funny example (that has a quote from the localization) because "typo", and they re-worded the Woolseysim trope to be hostile to the localization because, "fixing a sinkhole", before just deleting their own revised version because, "Grammar".
Edited by RaxisopenExaggerated villainy on Princess Peach: Showtime Videogame
I saw a questionable entry on Princess Peach: Showtime! that claimed the final boss wanted to kill all the Theets as part of her endgame; having just beaten the game and seen nothing of the sort in her or anyone else's dialogue I was confused—at most she destroys the theater and can potentially destroy the island if left unchecked, which is bad, but nowhere near what a Final Solution is.
I deleted the entry on the game's page and Grape's character sheet while explaining the reasons, with links to the scenes in question, but Fireball246 readded the entry on the game's page with a rude edit reason that appears to have been cut off.
Edited by lalalei2001resolved Troping trivia and YMMV entries for a nonexistent subpage Videogame
I recently added a Laconic entry for the music album Pac Man Fever. I decided to check the trivia and YMMV pages out of curiosity, and found that people had added entries for the video game also called Pac Man Fever. However, clicking the VideoGame/ tab redirects me to the Pac-Man page instead, which means the VideoGame/ work page for it doesn't exist. Should I cut the Trivia and YMMV tropes, comment them out, or move them to Pac-Man's Trivia/ and YMMV/ namespaces?
resolved Edits Not Showing Up When Logged Out Videogame
Recently, I made these edits to the WMG page for Home Safety Hotline. The changes show up when I'm logged in, but they are nowhere to be seen when I'm logged out.
I'm not sure what happened, but could it be because I didn't click on the "CONFIRM CHANGES" button in the source editor after I finished making my changes? I noticed that button last night and didn't think much of it at first. Sometime after I noticed my changes weren't showing up logged out, I read on the changelog that the button was added on the 15th of this month along with the visual editor.
So could that be the problem of why my changes aren't showing up without being logged on? I never really had this problem until now.
resolved Mentioning fan speculation Videogame
Context: Shin Megami Tensei V`s Updated Re-release, Vengeance, was originally planned to release on June 21, 2024 before being moved up to June 14. This lead to people speculating that it was intentionally moved as to avoid competing with Elden Ring`s highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC.
With that in mind, SMTV's Trivia page mentions this speculation twice (along the line of "leading fans to speculate"). I'm not sure this is allowed, but I want to make sure.
Here are the entries in question:
- Dueling Games: Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance was originally to be released on the same day as Elden Ring's highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC expansion. When Atlus announced that Vengeance would release a week earlier, people speculated that Atlus wanted to avoid this.
- Release Date Change: Vengeance was meant to be released Worldwide on June 21st of 2024, but nearly a month after its announcement, Atlus announced that it would release a week earlier, with fans speculating that this was to avoid competition from Elden Ring's expansion.
openVery new to the wiki, I have a couple questions Videogame
I tried to make my first page, one on Vectoid 3D TD, a Tower Defense Game on Scratch. Things ended up coming out badly, so I have a few questions from least to most important:
- First, what link will give me a page named "Vectoid 3D TD", or if no link gives that then how can I force that name? The page I made for Vectoid 3D TD has the name "Vectoid 3 DTD", I assume due to capitalization.
- Second, can a mod please either delete the old page or, if possible, redirect it to the new one? As a new troper I do not have the power to access the cutlist, and I doubt any of us want a impurity like that laying around.
- Third, why is it that the information I made in the visual editor originally came out wrong, and is there a way to prevent this? I'm fine with using the non-visual editor but i'd prefer the visual one.
Thank you for reading all this, and sorry that i'm such a newbie. It's my first time using this format though. I'm sure things will go better next time for me!
resolved Are these examples correct? Videogame
Found this on FireEmblemThreeHouses.Tropes A To D
- All Lesbians Want Kids: If a female Byleth gets a paired ending with Mercedes it is stated that they ended up opening an orphanage and raising many kids together. Byleth also ends up adopting children in her paired ending with Dorothea but only in the Japanese version of the game.
Looking at the trope page, the trope is about various lesbian women who wants to have a kid. This entry simply states that Female Byleth and Mercedes opened an orphanage and becoming mothers to many orphaned children. No mention of them wanting kids. Any other thoughts?
Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses Adrestian Empire
- Psycho Lesbian: She doesn't express any sort of romantic interest in any of the male characters and has an extreme obsession with Edelgard which goes to the point that she keeps track of every meal that Edelgard has eaten, the amount of times she's sighed, the amount of times she's said Monica's name, or to her chagrin, the names of others compared to her own. Downplayed, as while Monica's obsession with Edelgard is clearly unhealthy she doesn't actually physically hurt anyone over it.
The trope is about a woman is psychotically obsessed with another woman, to the point of actively harming others. As written, Monica sounds more like a lesbian Clingy Jealous Girl than anything.
Edit: The examples are misuse per here and here. Locking as resolved
Edited by Ayumi-chanresolved Specificity of Release Windows for Upcoming Works? Videogame
How specific does a release window for an upcoming game that only has a cutscene trailer need to be? Is a year enough, or do we need the quarter/season/month?
resolved The Elder Scrolls Character Page Splitting Videogame
The character page for The Elder Scrolls: Divine Beings is getting quite large, so I'm looking to split it into "Pre-Creation Entities", "Aedra", "The Tribunal and Dagoth Ur" and "Other Deities".
Additionally, I'm looking to soft-split The Elder Scrolls: Historical Figures into different sections for better categorisation.
I'd just like to know if I need to discuss with others before splitting any character pages, or if I can go right ahead with the edits. How to Split a Page doesn't specify if I need prior permission, but I just want to be sure.
For reference:
The Elder Scrolls: Divine Beings (including pre-existing Daedra sub-pages)
- Pre-Creation Entities
- The Aedra (Nine Divines)
- Daedra
- Daedric Princes
- Lesser Daedra
- The Tribunal and Dagoth Ur
- Other Deities
The Elder Scrolls: Historical Figures
- Cyrodilic Emperors and Regents:
- First Empire:
- Alessia the Slave Queen
- Second Empire:
- Reman Cyrodiil
- The Akaviri Potentates
- Third Empire:
- Tiber Septim
- Pelagius Septim III "the Mad"
- Uriel Septim V
- First Empire:
- Other Historical Figures:
- Merethic Era:
- The Snow Prince
- Topal the Pilot
- Veloth the Pilgrim
- Ysgramor
- First Era:
- Arch-Mage Shalidor
- Dumac Dwarfking
- Frandar Hunding
- Gaiden Shinji
- Indoril Nerevar
- Jurgen Windcaller
- Kagrenac
- Morihaus
- Pelinal Whitestrake
- Second Era:
- Ada'Soom Dir-Kamal
- Vanus Galerion
- Third Era:
- Potema Septim
- Multiple Eras / Unknown Era:
- Iachesis
- Lamae Beolfag
- Orgnum
- Rajhin
- Umaril the Unfeathered
- Wulfharth Ash-King
- Zurin Arctus / The Underking
- Merethic Era:
openTrying to recreate a CSP a bit too quickly Videogame
For context: Characters.Trails Series Crow Armbrust was recently merged with Characters.Trails Series Erebonia Thors Class VII Original Part Two ( a page I launched since the main OG Class VII page was getting two long) since Crow's page is not 250k characters long, as per the new CSP policy.
So troper salvadorfranz, has been editing the Characters.Trails Series Erebonia Thors Class VII Original Part Two page (as seen here) to add more things to Crow's folder to make it even longer (the edit reasons stating that the goal is to reach 250k characters). This is kind of sudden, since Crow's page was moved yesterday. Additionally, they are both misusing a few tropes (like Child Prodigy being listed even though Crow is now an adult) and using tropes that more narrative based than character based.
What should we do?
resolved Can I cut this page if the only entry no longer applies? Videogame
- Keep Circulating the Tapes: As Sarcastic Pasta Games have taken down the DLC in 2020 citing the need to replace multiple assets, this DLC is currently unplayable unless you already have a copy of it.
Except, now that I've checked the creator's page, the DLC is available to download again, by about note (coincidentally, since I just came across this news because of this entry) half a day ago. It's the only entry, can I cut the page?
EDIT: 5 days late, but I just updated the entry per the last reply. Going to lock without bumping. Edited by BlackFaithStar
openPotential LEGO City: Undercover ActorAllusion? Videogame
In LEGO City Undercover, the character Vinnie Pappalardo is voiced by John Guerrasio, who also did voicework as the Brickster in Island Xtreme Stunts. Since both are characters of criminal intent featured in LEGO games, would Guerrasio's role as Vinnie in LCU qualify as an Actor Allusion to his role as the Brickster in IES, or would there need to be a more clear cut Brickster reference in LCU for it to count?
resolved Character folder for Eiko from Street Fighter 2 Pocky Edition Videogame
So I want to make a character page for Eiko from the Advertising game Street Fighter 2 Pocky Edition. And I want to know if it's okay to do so.
Edited by AFanopen(The sort of maybe) Harsher In Hindsight misuse... again Videogame
/TW: abuse/SA mention/
It took me a lot longer to realize, and something I last expected to be misused, but back in December of last, this Genshin Impact example was added to the Video Game sub-page of Harsher:
- Tighnari’s voice lines (at least the original ones done by Elliot Gindi, Tighnari’s original voice actor) in Genshin Impact(specifically, “What are they gonna do, lock me up?”) sting very badly knowing that Gindi had been abusing minors with his status as a voice actor.
Ignoring the fact that this is the only example of Genshin being added to that page at the (the game's YMMV page has a lot of In-Universe Harsher examples), this feels like misuse. While it's true that the line has been memed to death for darkly humorous purposes, if you take the line in context, it's more about him doing courses for the Forest Rangers without permission from the Akademiya and doing such would be considered "dissemination of information" according to Nari - while Gindi was fired for something similar ("breach of contract" according to MiHoYo), nothing from that line implied or insinuated that Tighnari used his power as a teacher to abuse his students (and hypothetically, it will be Out-of-Character for Nari since one of his patients and fellow comrades is a victim of abuse themselves). Furthermore, fans of the character have learned to separate the art from the artist and hate it when you associate that character with their now-disgraced voice actor. Seemingly the closest connection to Nari and his old VA is that the Dramatic Irony between their situations (Nari takes care of abused and disabled child who views him as a brother to her, while Gindi used his fame to abuse minors, some of whom had mental disabilities). I apologize if I may come off as a bit to insensitive in this post, I spent the majority of the day editing the character pages for Black★Rock Shooter.
Edited by ToonAbbyopenShould I crop repeat info from character photo? Videogame
I'm working on the character page for upcoming Edmund McMillen roguelike Mewgenics and I'm finally getting around adding images for the human NPCs, but there's a small problem: The images I'm using came from a pre-release blog post on steam, and in said images, character bios I've already transcribed into the page. Since I'm adding the images now, should i crop the bios out, erase the transcription I've already written there, or just put in the virgin images with repeat information in there?
Edited by ClicketyWhinnyresolved something wrong with the Baldur's gate 3 Origin Characters page? Videogame
Specifically this one. Checking the history of the page or the edit page, i can clearly see there is content here. But when i try to look at the page itself... it's blank.
resolved Very Questionable Troping Videogame
The one-month-old account TNO Enjoyer has been displaying a pattern of bizarre behaviour. I don't have the time to catalogue it all in detail, but it includes and is not limited to:
- Creating the subpage Characters.TNO Legacy Denmark, and an invalid Analysis page for it. The former was cut for duplicating content already on TNO Europe.
- Adding an entry on FanWorks.Hearts Of Iron for "Chronicles Of Elementa", which is described only as an "upcoming mod". This was later removed by another Troper.
- Creating the page "Chronicles Elementa", which was cut as a stub.
- Creating a Characters page for "Elementa Chronicles'', and several sub-pages for it, without a corresponding work page.
- Creating then abandoning the misspelled page "Characters.Chroniclesof Elementa".
- Adding a blank folder to Characters.TNO Misc.
- Creating two more troll stubs, Characters.Revolutionaries, and Revolutionaries.Characters containing only the word "Bruh".
I know absolutely nothing about Hearts of Iron and its clearly extensive fan-work community, but there are no results for "Elementa Chronicles" on Google whosoever, unless you count misspellings of a Minecraft fanwork series named the Elementia Chronicles. I can't tell if this Troper is a troll or vandal, or simply trying to trope their own unpublished mod, in which case it should be on Darth Wiki. In any case, they've made an awful lot of stubs.
Update: I have sent Characters.Chroniclesof Elementa, Characters.Revolutionaries, Revolutionaries.Characters, and Analysis.TNO Legacy Denmark to the Cut List, the former three for being stubs, the latter for namespace misuse. Edited by Azorius24
openVisualNovel/VideoGame split on trope pages. Videogame
If I want to crosswick/add a Visual Novel example in a trope page and it doesn't have a Visual Novels folder or subpage, should I create it myself, or should I put the VN under Video Games?
In the case that the Video Games folder already contains some VNs, is it better to move them to a new Visual Novels folder, or to leave it like that and add my example there?
Edited by animuacid
I have a JPG image of Eddy Gordo from Tekken 8 I wanted to put for his character file under Tekken 3. But this is the first time doing something like this so I'm kinda lost. Am I supposed to upload the image onto a specific page of TV tropes and then use the URL for that to upload it onto the aforementioned file?