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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#501: Jun 2nd 2022 at 2:22:21 PM

[up] I'd do Music.The Game Rapper for Music.The Game

Or maybe just Music.Game (currently a redirect to Music.The Game), which isn't colliding with anything? His page says he "eventually dropped the "The" sometime in the early 2010s". But Wikipedia still uses "The Game". As does his official Facebook account. And his most recent album release uses "The Game" on the cover. And the media is still referring to him as The Game.

Okay yeah, I'd go with Music.The Game Rapper

Edited by Twiddler on Jun 2nd 2022 at 2:31:52 AM

Azorius24 Accumulating Filibuster Counters from the Office of Naval Intelligence Sword Base (Troper Journeyman) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Accumulating Filibuster Counters
#502: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:09:25 PM

How would I go about creating the page "Black Comedy (Theatre)" to replace my page Black Comedy? I'm just stuck on how to get the brackets in the page name. Is it just a Wiki Words edit of Black Comedy Theatre?

Edited by Azorius24 on Jun 2nd 2022 at 12:10:11 PM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#503: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:12:16 PM

How to Make a Custom Title

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#505: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:38:46 PM

I thoguht we don't prefer to disambiguate via medium (I assume this is to get out of Main.Black Comedy). I would do Theatre.Black Comedy Peter Shaffer or Theatre.Black Comedy 1965

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#506: Jun 3rd 2022 at 5:46:01 AM

[up] That's correct. Don't duplicate the namespace as disambiguation unless you have no other option.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#507: Jun 3rd 2022 at 6:10:32 PM

I recently created a page for the video game Thor: God of Thunder and preemptively added a "2011" to it to separate it from the Jason Aaron comic of the same name.

However, since the comic came out one year after the game and is therefore not the first work to have that title, should it be changed to Thor: God of Thunder (2012) to better disambiguate it?

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jun 3rd 2022 at 9:10:51 AM

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#508: Jun 4th 2022 at 5:52:51 AM

[up] Might as well. Neither is an adaptation of the other (both are separate versions of Marvel's Thor as a whole), so both should be disambiguated.

Edited by bwburke94 on Jun 4th 2022 at 8:53:18 AM

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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#509: Jun 6th 2022 at 11:29:48 AM

A few years ago, I created the page for the comic Aria that has nothing to do with the more famous manga. Should I move it to Aria (1979) (year of the first publication in magazine) or Aria 1982 (release of the first volume)?

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#510: Jun 6th 2022 at 11:32:04 AM

I'd go with Aria (1979) because that was when the comic was first published.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#511: Jun 6th 2022 at 11:34:08 AM

I much prefer 1979 for its debut year.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#512: Jun 7th 2022 at 7:27:21 PM

VideoGame.Overlord is the only thing using the base name. Do we go by Year like most things, or Overlord Series or something else?

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Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
#513: Jun 7th 2022 at 9:10:39 PM

I remember we decided to not disambiguate that since it's for an entire series while the rest are individual works.

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bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#514: Jun 8th 2022 at 3:50:01 AM

With Overlord 2012 getting a video game adaptation, that reasoning doesn't apply anymore.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#515: Jun 8th 2022 at 10:07:57 AM

Those adaptations don't seem to share the name "Overlord", though, at least not by itself.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#516: Jun 9th 2022 at 8:16:10 PM

I moved Thor: God of Thunder to its new namespace and updated all the wicks, so hopefully I did everything right.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#517: Jun 9th 2022 at 8:30:42 PM

Looks great. Just one thing, it's the page title that was changed, not the namespace. The namespace in this case is ComicBook

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#518: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:30:49 AM

I learned a series I follow, Beast Tamer And The Cat Girl is getting an Anime adaptation advertised in English under the title Beast Tamer.

Given the sheer genericness of this title would it be better to get ahead of the disambig race by moving content to LightNovel.Beast Tamer 2022 (or whatever year the LN actually started, I'd have to check)?

Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 10th 2022 at 8:31:26 AM

Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
#519: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:32:28 AM

I haven't been able to find any other work named Beast Tamer.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#520: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:36:24 AM

Hence "get ahead of the race". I was honestly surprised we didn't have something called Beast Tamer already, given it seems a common enough phrase, so I wanted to get an additional opinion or two before making any big moves on whether it would be better to disambig now so it isn't a potential issue later.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 10th 2022 at 8:37:04 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#521: Jun 10th 2022 at 8:37:41 AM

I guess it's more common as episode titles, than work titles, its vagueness seems to work against it as a common title?

Episode: https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_Tamer

But some English? works use it:

https://www.amazon.com/Beast-Tamer-Calliope-Hale-ebook/dp/B097Q9WC3X


Gods And Generals... Are the film and book similar enough that we don't need to disambig??

Edited by Malady on Jun 10th 2022 at 8:51:20 AM

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#522: Jun 10th 2022 at 10:18:29 AM

To answer the Beast Tamer question, we don't disambiguate unless there's an actual or inevitable collision, whether it be with a trope or another work.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#523: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:09:25 PM

~RallyBot2

And my concern is that there seems like there is an inevitable collision.

Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
#524: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:10:53 PM

Again though I have been completely unable to find any other work named just Beast Tamer. Except for a really obscure book that might not even be called that in english.

Edited by Ordeaux26 on Jun 10th 2022 at 12:13:33 PM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#525: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:40:29 PM

If it's just the anime that's titled Beast Tamer, then I would just make an Anime.Beast Tamer redirect to the light novel page. Wait until the light novels get a localization — if they do — to figure out what to do with the light novel page. It's possible for the anime adaption and the light novels to have different localized titles, as in the case of My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong As I Expected (the anime was localized first, with the title My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU).


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