During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.
Specific issues include:
- Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
- A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
- Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
- Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
- Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.
It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk
to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.
Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:
for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.
- Why do a cleanup?: This trope definitely exists and has a well documented history of use. That being said, it frequently gets misused to a character who meets one of the components, namely that they are smart, charming while not necessarily even being a villain, or create good plans. While these are components, there is also a certain personality required, not to mention that all of the above are required to be present for a character to be a true Magnificent Bastard. As the trope attracts interest, it unfortunately brings in a lot of misuse and I thought the best way to rectify this would be a Perpetual Cleanup Thread, as is being done and has seen success with Complete Monster.
- What makes a Magnificent Bastard: Below is a list of the individual components to make this character. Note that they must all be present, not just some, which has lead to frequent misuse:
- Must be intelligent: Goes without saying, to be a Magnificent Bastard, the character has to be smart in the first place and use their brain to work towards whatever their end goal may be;
- Must be a Bastard: While going overboard in how vile the character is can be detrimental, a key aspect is the Bastard part of the trope, whether the character is an out-and-out antagonist in the work, some manner of Villain Protagonist, or something in between, they at least have some unscrupulous qualities to qualify for this trope;
- Must not be too detestable: Again, there is a ceiling on how bad the character can be before they just become too nefarious, blocking out the Magnificent part of the trope. A genocidal racist or child-raping Sadist aren't going to make the cut;
- Think on their feet: In addition to being a Chessmaster, a Magnificent Bastard, if the character deals with situations in which their initial plan is ruined, has to be able to pull a Xanatos Speed Chess and at least come up with a competent strategy to make up for lost time, otherwise they fail for being unable to think in tough spots;
- Have charm: Even if they don't necessarily make every character they meet fall in love with them and can even be detested by others, the audience has to find an amicable social relation to the character, or they are failing to make the impact required for this trope.
- What to do if a character is listed on a page but has not been approved?: They need to be removed, all candidates need to come through the cleanup thread first. The character could well count but they need to be analyzed properly and voted on first.
- Do we list Playing With this trope?: No; as a YMMV trope, this cannot be Played With, so we only want examples that are Played Straight.
- What do I do if I want a character to be listed as a Magnificent Bastard?: The greatest success Complete Monster saw for its cleanup effort was from the invention of the effort post format, so, borrowing from that, a troper wishing to propose a Magnificent Bastard will create such a post in the following format:
- Begin by describing The work, this will help establish the setting the character is in and for the reader to understand what kind of a scenario they are in;
- Summarize The character's actions, this will provide a listing for readers to understand what they do and how it applies to this trope because charm and lack of smugness are so crucial, this is a good time to be incorporating exactly the flavor of how they operate to explain this;
- List circumstances in which the character must Think on their feet, these are times where a wrench might be thrown in their initial plan and they have to adapt on the spot or even come up with a new scheme all together, this is also a good time to explain how the villain reacts to defeat when they have to face it, a true Magnificent Bastard won't break down into tears at the thought of death, they should have known such a possibility could occur and be able to handle it with more dignity;
- The competition, similar to the Heinous Standard dealt with for a Complete Monster, this section is to deal with how successful the character is in carrying out their plans compared to other characters. While, as a villain, they probably are going to lose in the end, it is good to explain how other characters handle the same situation. There is no exceptionalism case to be made for this trope but explaining the variety helps the reader have a better understanding of the proposal.
- How do you know when the character's arc is done so they can be proposed? When their tenure as a villain or antagonist finishes. This could happen in a single Story Arc in an entire work, a single work of a franchise, or the whole series in general. We'll show lenience to Long-Runners with constantly recurring candidates or series with outstanding continuities (ex. comic books), and it's entirely possible to count in a work or two but not in general for a reason like Depending on the Writer.
- What about candidates evil because of external sources? Those Made of Evil can qualify if they show enough individuality and tactical acumen — in other words, they have the personality to fulfill the magnificence requirement. Conversely, those brainwashed, especially if they're a better person without it, may fail the individuality aspect and cannot count.
- What if they are under orders from a higher-up? Depends. If the boss created the plans down to the letter and the candidate is just following them, sounds like we should discuss the boss instead. However, if the candidate takes creative liberties with the orders, adds their own charm and flair to them, fills in holes in the orders, and/or actively deals with obstacles their boss did not talk about, the candidate shows enough individual thinking to qualify.
- What about Character Development? An MB is something a character can develop into... a nice person who plots well might become more morally gray as the work goes on and hits the "Bastard" criteria, thus making them viable. Likewise, a Smug Snake might shed their ego, become more understanding of the threat others pose and gain the personality or "Magnificent" criteria, likewise making them viable. Conversely, a character who looks like this trope might suffer from a Sanity Slippage or just get outed as not being as smart as they thought they were and become incompatible with MB.
- Can an MB be a good guy? Not in the conventional sense... it is required they have at least some dubious traits lest they fail the "Bastard" criteria. That being said, a character who pulls a Heel–Face Turn or eventually stops taking villainous actions is still fair game: as there was a point in time where they were both "Magnificent" and a "Bastard" at the same time and they've merely adapted as time goes on. Now... if such a character begins showing other issues (i.e.: becomes prone to freak outs or starts getting outwitted) then they're compromising their Magnificence and will probably be deemed a cut. What's important is stylishly operating while at least for some time being willing to take at best underhanded methods to see a job done. A Heel–Face Turn in itself isn't a disqualifier but they do have to have been "Magnificent" and a "Bastard" at the same time and afterwards can't start slipping on the former front.
- What about characters whose stories can take different routes?: When proposing a character in a form of media that has them in multiple story routes. Said character must be consistent with their characteristics in all routes. (ex.: Can't have an example who shows promise on one route yet fails in another.) The only exception is if a later installment of the series confirms the character's actions which made them worth proposing are the canon route.
- Is there a timeframe rule like with Complete Monster?: Yes, please wait two weeks until after the work has concluded before proposing a character (again, usually using the North American air date). As is the case with CM, we want to give a reasonable time frame so that everyone interested in seeing the work has done so and can participate in the discussion without having anything spoiled.
- What about groups like with Complete Monster?: This is a point of divergence between the two tropes. While CM does not allow for a single entry encompassing more than three characters lest their heinousness for crimes becomes too watered down, with MB as long as they are treated as one "unit" it is acceptable to lump all characters provided they share acts of charm and intelligence.
- Can I propose my own work's character as a Magnificent Bastard?: No, this is a YMMV subject and the creator of a content is way too biased to be able to evaluate the criteria we're looking for without a second opinion taking over. That being said, you are more than welcome to encourage someone to consume your creation and if they feel a character counts, are more than welcome to suggest them.
- My example/edit has been approved, but the example subpage is locked! How do I get it added?: The moderators do not add examples to locked example subpages in the MagnificentBastard/ namespace directly. Rather, you need to do the edit to a sandbox page that follows the format Sandbox.MagnificentBastard<Name of the example subpage> (e.g for MagnificentBastard.Fullmetal Alchemist it's Sandbox.Magnificent Bastard Fullmetal Alchemist) and on a Friday, ask in the locked pages edit requests thread for the content to be swapped in.
Thread rules
When voting a troper must specify the effort post they're voting on and cannot merely vote on "Everything I missed" as in the past it has indicated the poster didn't read the effort post and is guessing instead of analyzing.
Resolved items
In general, a character listed on this trope is considered "settled". This means they should not be challenged unless information used to list them was incorrect or information was missed in the initial discussion.
However, when re-litigating a candidate, the same rules apply for when they were originally proposed. If they do not have five or more upvotes than downvotes for approval upon a re-litigation, including votes from the initial discussion if they do not change, then they are a cut.
This especially applies to the characters listed below, who have been discussed excessively and repeated attempts to get them listed/cut may result in punitive action for bogging down the thread.
Definitely an MB
- Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers: Any sadism Darkrai displays is limited in effect thanks to the game's nature and any cowardice which can be inferred about him is Alternative Character Interpretation about his tactical retreats.
- Avatar: The Last Airbender: Azula's Villainous Breakdown is undone in the sequel comic Smoke & Shadow where she regains her composure and ends up stable and in control enough to count.
Definitely not an MB
- South Park: The show's frequent use of vulgar comedy and mean-spirited humor leaves any potential candidates devoid of the dignity or charm to qualify.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:15:22 AM
I have a new EP
The Work
What We Do in the Shadows is a 2019 TV Series based on the 2019 film of the same name. It centers around 4 vampire roommates as they go about life in New York City. Our candidate is a one shot character from the third episode of the first season - Werewolf Feud. Ironically, the candidate isn't a werewolf, but rather an psychic vampire.
The Candidate
Evie Russell is an Emotional Vampire who works at Colin Robinson's workplace during the episode. When Colin first meets her, he tries to feed off of her (as he is an energy vampire, who sustains himself through being boring and annoying). However, this backfires - not only does he fail to get anything off her, but he also seems rather exhausted from the encounter.
After failing to get any sustenance from his coworkers, he comes to the conclusion that Evie is an Emotion Vampire, an advanced form of vampire that feeds off pity rather than frustration. When Colin approached Evie earlier, she gave him a Tragic Backstory.
Desperate for sustenance, he approaches a coworker named Biff, who Evie also makes a beeline for. The combined effects of both vampires causes him to fall into a coma. That night, he confronts Evie and they both engage in a psychic pity/obnoxiousness vampire duel. After spending the duel on equal footing, they both collapse in exhaustion, and agree to work together.
They go on like this for a few weeks, till one day, Colin catches Evie telling her co-workers a sob story that paints him as a Bastard Boyfriend (she is homeless and Colin wont let her stay with him). Offended, he confronts her later tells her that they should break up as their relationship isn't healthy. Evie seems to agree and lets Colin go, though not before feeding of his pity one last time.
Magnificence
She's just as powerful as Colin Robinson, if not more - she can feed off him, but not vice versa. She is also able to spin effective sob stories to garner the pity of others.
Bastardry
Being a psychic vampire, she drains energy for sustenance, but sticks with leaving them tired (the only reason Biff becomes comatose is because both Colin and Evie are going after him. There is a later episode where Colin becomes powerful enough to cause people to faint when he talks to them).
While she does make Colin look bad in the office, she seems to understand when Colin wants to break up with her and lets him go. That being said, she still tries to get energy from him one last time - after that, it is just trolling.
Undignified Moments
None.
Competition
Can't think of anyone at the moment. As far as the main characters go, Nandor and Lazlo make some poor decisions, and Guillermo is too nice. I'm not sure about Colin and Nadja
No to Evie. I’ve actually watched some episodes, and judging by the EP, she doesn’t do anything worse than make people tired.
I'm leaning yes. She does drain people's energy, after all. Yeah, Evie is a good choice.
The energy-draining doesn’t actually cause harm though.
If she gangs up on someone to the point she leaves someone comatose so she can feed, even if that's not her on her regular, I'm inclined to say yeah, at that point it's like any old vampire putting someone's life in danger so they can have a snack unless I'm missing something.
Happy New Year's but ![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_down_emoticon_3571.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
to Evie. The way she makes people so miserable for draining makes her (and Colin) a bit too messed up in my opinion, although maybe I need to re watch that episode.
It's a show I really need to start but given I know it's written with the campy tone of its film original, I seriously doubt their draining is played as being too awful for this trope.
Evie's whole power is based around making them unhappy or making them feel bad for her.
It's not crushing them emotionally, it's faking sob stories to get them to feel pity and she plays on them. It's hilarious, not sadistic.
Yeah, it’s all played for comedy. I guess if she’s at least indifferent to putting Biff in a coma, she just barely makes the mark, though I still don’t think draining energy on its own is bad enough.
Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Dec 31st 2021 at 10:39:23 AM
Guillermo i a maybe...I've had my eye on him, but he's often a victim of circumstance.
...but he lures people over for the vamps to kill, bastard is not an issue.
Yes to Evie. That people can't decide whether or not the draining isn't evil enough or is too "messed up" is a sufficient demonstration for me to say she's balanced.
Wishing the best for your parents, Star.
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Esmerelda, Mr. Gold, Nicky, the Imposter, and Evie.
Last entry for 2021 for me; I may get to other Alpha Protocol candidates next year.
- Alpha Protocol: The agent called "Mike Thorton", no matter how he's played, is a quick thinking and skilled recruit in Alpha Protocol, picked for his skills at manipulating situations and people to his advantage. Sent against the terrorist, Ali Shaheed, Mike learns of a conspiracy between Alpha Protocol and the weapons manufacture, Halbech. Betrayed and left for dead, Mike goes rogue with Mina Tang, using the resources at their disposal to uncover the conspiracy. Mike gets involved in gang wars, other agencies, conducts a raid on a CIA outpost, commits data theft in another raid, fighting security and police forces; he can even execute or spare enemies and potential allies to get an advantage. In the endgame, Mike can near single handedly bring down Halbech, or join it, and usurp Leland, or can bring down both Halbech and Alpha Protocol to dismantle the entire conspiracy.
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Oh right, he's a vampires familiar. Can't believe I forgot that.
Edited by magnumtropus on Dec 31st 2021 at 7:45:26 PM
Yes to Evie and the Imposter.
I'll get Molester Crest written up when I get off work.
Think you're tough because you made it through Lord of the Rings? Real men survive The Silmarillion.
Lies and Violence!
Evie.
Happy New Years!
Evie and Nicky.
Happy New Year everyone!
Edited by jjjj2 on Dec 31st 2021 at 12:30:53 PM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Yes to Mike, Nick, Rumplestiltskin, Evie the Imposter, and Esmerelda. Did a Dirty Old Man Priest make her taste the fires of Hell?
RIP Betty White. As for the "nicest MB" this character I am proposing might be a contender...
Here goes nothing, I'm going to try to propose The Masked Apprentice/ Kazuma Asogi.
What's the work?
The Great Ace Attorney is a solid One Game for the Price of Two that at first doesn't seem that special, if you merely end on the first game. The second game however, holy shit! The fact this wasn't nominated for GOTY is literally appalling. It's up there with Metroid Dread as one of the highlights. This adventure sets primarily in the 19th century featuring Ryunosuke Naruhodo the ancestor of Phoenix Wright. In the beginning of the game, just like true Wright tradition, he is accused of murder by a visiting student known as Jezaille Brett, though later her real name is Asa Shinn. After helping Naruhodo prove his innocence in the High Imperial Court of Japan for the murder of John A. Watson (I'm going by the original names for Sherlock and Watson) Shinn is sent away to a private corner of Japan to be returned to Britain, thanks to the corruption within the British and Japanese governments.
The next case has Kazuma Asogi take his friend Ryunosuke on a Russian ship, where he places his best friend in a cabinet to stow-away on board the SS Burya, heading to Britain.
During the night time, Kazuma begins documenting the best friends' journey, giving the chicken to Ryunosuke as Kazuma himself has a distaste for chicken. A cat ends up in his room, and its owner, a young 15 year old Russian Ballet dancer known as Nikolina Pavlova, disguising herself as a older bearded man named Grimsby Roylott to escape Russia with a priceless tiara to sell for cash later on. After visiting Kazuma in his room, Kazuma said he needed a second opinion, and at first, the ballerina panicked thinking he was going to ring the call bell to summon a crew member (all of whom were Russian aside from the Japanese Inspector Satoru Hosonaga posing as a crew member, and unbeknownst to him, all but Hosonaga aiding in the young ballerina's escape) rather than talk to Ryunosuke in the cabinet, so Nikolina knocked him into the bedside pole, knocking him out and seemingly killing him. At the heat of the moment, she framed the man in the cabinet (Ryunosuke) with the help of the crew namely Bif Strogenov. Then Sherlock Holmes (or this universe's version of Holmes, we'll get to him later) shows up and decides to solve the case, deducing that (without outright saying so) that Kazuma was dead, and Ryunosuke was seemingly the only one who could have done it. After a few deductive dances of sorts, where the truth is laid bare, Kazuma's body is taken away and that appears to be the end of his story, and his sword Karuma (which holds the key to defeating Mael Stronghart hidden within) is passed on to Ryunosuke. ..Or so we're lead to believe.
Who is the Masked Apprentice/Kazuma Asogi? And what has he done?
Sherlock in reality had realized Kazuma was still alive, deduced he was actually on an assassination mission from the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Seishiro Jigoku and ultimately decided to drop him off in Hong Kong where he was discovered by Mael Stronghart, and raised to be the best assistant prosecutor despite his memory loss from the top of the English Judical system, Manfred Von Karma style. Unfortunately for Stronghart, this lasted until the 24th of October where Kazuma, as Barok Van Zieks enigmatic and hypercompetent aide known as the Masked Apprentice, finds out that the mysterious serial killer who had terrorized Britain known as The Professor (named after Moriarty) was, in fact, Kazuma's father. Kazuma naturally remembered everything, and decided to go on his assassination mission to kill Tobias Gregson on board the SS Grouse as revenge for his father's cold blooded execution as the Fall Guy for The Professor murders by Jigoku and Stronghart, as Gregson was one of the key figures in The Professor case that helped cover it up, and to make matters worse was on the ship attempting to flee to Paris, to save his young ward Gina Lestrade, Defiant to the End Gregson refused to divulge the information of the mastermind behind The Professor killings, Kazuma decided not to kill Gregson, and instead left him to live... That is, until Seishiro Jigoku, the Japanese judge and Minister of Foreign Affairs to take up the mantle and shoot Gregson dead. During the trial for Gregson's murder with the Fall Guy this time being none other than Barok Van Zieks, it is revealed that both Asa Shinn and Kazuma Asogi were part of an visiting student asssain exchange. Shinn was to take the life of John A. Watson, who ten years prior, forged the autopsy report of Barok's brother Klint Van Zieks with the help of then apprentice Coroner, Dr. Courtney Sithe then called Stevens, while Kazuma was intended to take the life of Tobias Gregson, as a sort of loose end for Mael Stronghart, as Tobias knew too much about the Reaper of the Bailey AND The Professor killings, having taken part in both, namely: the cover-ups of said killings. It is also revealed that Klint Van Zieks was the infamous Professor rather than Genshin Asogi, and Stronghart confessed to (almost) everything, but decided to try to prematurely end the trial, while Kazuma argued against it and through his strong will, got Ryunosuke to open the hilt of the katana revealing none other than Klint's confession and will. Stronghart goes insane and attempts to hide the truth, but is unable to stop Prosecutor Asogi and Defence Attorney Ryunosuke Naruhodo from making the will public, which allows the trial to continue and the two working together to arrest Stronghart with the help of Sherlock Holmes broadcasting the entire trial to Queen Victoria.
Is he intelligent?
Easily one of the smartest prosecutors thus far, and that's including Miles Edgeworth, incredibly studious, with one of his flaws being a sense of self righteous justice, and desire to see the innocent protected, and criminals punished. He easily predicts what Van Zieks is going to need as his "sidekick", aced the exam, and was able to trick Ryunosuke (albeit the last bit was due to amnesia) into thinking he was dead, and able to quickly produce valid counterarguments when under Stronghart's orders to prosecute Barok, and despite being Japanese, earns the respect of his mentor for his cunning and brilliance, and given the fact he was able to sneak aboard the SS Grouse without being detected right to Gregson's cabin shows how sneaky he is.
Bastard? Too Much of one?
Kazuma isn't really a bastard, but he does hold a strong resentment to the English for unfairly convicting and executing his father, though this is mainly reserved to Barok, Asa Shinn, Stronghart, and to a lesser extent, Gregson. He does hold many English people in high regard such as Sherlock Holmes, Iris, Gina Lestrade, and Stronghart (formerly). He gets over his prejudice, and ultimately ends as a Face. So in other words, while he may be a bit prejudiced, could you really blame him for what the British did to his father, scapegoating him, and executing him as a remorseless Serial Killer in place of one of their own, who lost a duel to the death with Genshin Asogi? He also attempts to assassinate Tobias Gregson, who while admittedly was not an angel himself, was willing to change for the better and escape with Gina to Paris.
He also serves as a Broken Pedestal for Naruhodo being a flawed individual who Ryunosuke admired, and was the primary source of inspiration for Naruhodo, only to be told "I'm not doing this for your sake, Kazuma. I'm doing this for the truth." He's also something of a big brother to both Ryunosuke and Susato Mikotoba.
Conclusion?
I'd say he makes it.
Edited by Klavice on Dec 31st 2021 at 9:36:06 AM
Yes to Richard Fisk, Foreinger, Rumpelstiltskin, Mike, Nick, Esmerelda, Mr. Gold, Nicky, the Imposter, and Evie.
Happy new year.
Here are my write-ups:
- Marvel's Wastelanders Hawkeye: Hawkeye is one of the few Avengers who survived an uprising by the world's supervillains. The villainous Baron Helmut Zemo had the Thunderbolts betray the Avengers, so he could slay them. Zemo spared Hawkeye as a cruel joke, believing Hawkeye posed no threat to him and took control of part of the US. Hawkeye joined a circus and pretended to be a drunken fool and a clown, but secretly plotted his revenge. Throughout the years, Hawkeye used his cunning to track down and murder the Thunderbolts, succeeding in killing almost all of them. Hawkeye plans to complete his revenge by killing Zemo himself when Zemo sees his show, not caring if he lives or dies afterward.
- Spider-Man (1967): The Human Fly Twins are a pair of circus arcobats who turned to crime. One of the twins makes Spidey follow him on a wild goose chase, while the other one is free to commit robberies. Spider-Man captures the twins, but they are later patrolled. The twins go back to crime and commit robberies dressed up as Spider-Man and frame him for their crimes. The twins later place a fly tracer on Spider-Man, in order to track his movements, so they could frame him more crimes and make Spider-Man look like a fool.
I am not sure if the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon has any more keepers, most of the other villains are incompetent, surprisingly too evil, or in rare cases just offensive. Dr. Octopus tried to blow up a section of NYC for kicks and Kingpin sold fake medicine to old people that actually made them sicker and Green Goblin is a generic theif.
Edited by Overlord on Dec 31st 2021 at 10:07:31 AM
Let me get this done before the night's over. I also created a Grand Theft Auto tree over on the sandbox and potholed Toreno.
Grand Theft Auto 5: Lester Crest is the crippled yet brilliant criminal mastermind that planned every complex heist that Michael and his crew ever successfully pulled off. A computer genius and skilled hacker, Lester always plans ahead and gives his associates multiple ways to complete the heists and always delivers a diverse array of crew members to provide for every vital role. A defender of the downtrodden, he has Franklin perform assassinations on corrupt officials that abuse their power, all the while using the deaths to manipulate the stock market for his own gain. During the Doomsday Heist, Lester outplays the omnicidal Avon Hertz and even outwits the Artificial Intelligence Cliffford to bring their apocalyptic plans to ruin. Ultimately, Lester comes out of retirement to rob the Diamond Casino to impress Georgina Cheng and improves his style and and social skills to have her fall in love with him.
Edited by LoreDeluxe on Dec 31st 2021 at 10:28:18 AM
Think you're tough because you made it through Lord of the Rings? Real men survive The Silmarillion.
This will likely by double posting, but I didn't want it to get mixed in with the write up. How does everyone feel about this potential quote from Mike Toreno?
"It's not all white knights and heroes. We have to make decisions, kid. You know, I try to set bad people on other bad people and sometimes I let good guys die."
—Mike Toreno, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Think you're tough because you made it through Lord of the Rings? Real men survive The Silmarillion.
Almost 3 AM where I am. Happy New Year everyone!
Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button
Happy new year. Hope you don’t mind, 43, but I noticed that the two Spirit Hunter keepers in MagnificentBastard.Visual Novels were not grouped together for some reason, so I went ahead and put them in a tree in Sandbox.Magnificent Bastard Visual Novels. Just letting you know.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
I'll put the draft for Evie in the next post so that it doesn't become a page bottomer
Probably going to do the batch tomorrow... New Years Eve (a happy one to all) and whatnot.