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#526: May 14th 2019 at 12:35:45 PM

Hypothetically, if the censors do not permit flashing lights, but they get through anyway, is that not Radar?

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#527: May 14th 2019 at 12:36:46 PM

Again, that's not censorship. That's health and safety standards. You don't see something get rated TV-MA because it has flashing lights; the maturity of the content has nothing to do with whether it may trigger seizures.

[down] No. The FCC says you can't have flashing lights, not the TV ratings boards. Completely different issue.

Edited by Fighteer on May 14th 2019 at 3:38:43 PM

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#528: May 14th 2019 at 12:37:16 PM

I'd say so. I don't see a reason why this trope needs to be restricted to "naughty" material, especially since the overload of "naughty" material is currently the trope's biggest problem.

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#529: May 15th 2019 at 6:37:02 AM

I'm copying Radar.Harvest Moon over to Radar.Story Of Seasons, but first I need to see which examples count there or under Parental Bonus. All of the games are either E or E+.

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Harvest Moon

  • When you go to bed with most wives their affection goes up. To drive the point, Eve has abandonment issues and her affection goes down each night.
  • Ann is implied to be naked in her Star Night scenes at the hot springs, though you only see her from the shoulders up. In three out of four of them, she also doesn't seem to mind Pete hopping in to join her, though she'll sometimes get annoyed at him being Distracted by the Sexy.
  • In the English version Frothy Mugs of Water is in effect here despite the characters blatantly getting drunk and the town having a bar.

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Back To Nature/Back To Nature: For Girl/Friends Of Mineral Town/More Friends Of Mineral Town

  • When Zack delivers the large bed to you, he wonders out loud what you're going to do with a bed that big. He does so with a large toothy grin.
  • It's implied Cliff is suicidal.
  • One of Anna's lines about her husband:
    Anna: Basil won't play with me... Hmph!

Save The Homeland/Hero Of Leaf Valley

  • If you win an expert festival while married to Katie, this dialogue occurs:
    Congratulations on coming out victorious.
    What? You want a tangible reward for your behavior?
    Hm, that's true. I've observed how hard you've worked, after all.
    Fine. What would you like?
    ...WHAT?! Th-That's... No, uh... Well, I...
    Yeah, I got it. No need to elaborate. I'll take it under advisement.

A Wonderful Life/Another Wonderful Life/A Wonderful Life: Special Edition

  • If you try to milk a bull in A Wonderful Life, instead of being annoyed (or nothing happening), it responds with a green heart. To make it more obvious, if he is too young to breed he will be confused.
  • The "Miracle Portion" in Japan isn't a potion. This game makes it obvious. When you decide to use a "Miracle Potion" a cutscene occurs wherein you are advised to leave the barn (despite being an adult), followed by a sound of loud mooing. The next scene shows both the cow and the bull looking very happy.
  • One of the first lines Muffy tells the male protagonist is that she thinks he is sexy.
  • When showing your infant son to Muffy she sometimes says this:
    Muffy: Daddy's always giving you hugs. He's got no time to play with Mommy now...
  • As an adult, Lumina will say "Sometimes you can see animals running around being "lovey-dovey"."

Magical Melody

  • The English translation is this due to Frothy Mugs of Water returning. Despite the censorship, it's pretty obvious that it's alcohol.

DS/DS Cute

  • One event in Cute has your friend, Mimi, telling you how she envies you. She married for convenience, whereas you married for love. She wishes she had as nice and romantic a man as your husband. What's so odd about that? She decides to rectify this by announcing that she's going to have an affair with your husband. Your character performs the Heroic Mime equivalent of giving her three "Oh-no-you-di'—n't!" snaps, and she tries to cover herself by claiming she was joking. And this isn't the only adultery joke in the game, oddly...
  • In the Japanese version of Cute, there was a Gay Option however they hid it as the "Best Friends System". They kept the romantic lines intact and you can still have a kid.
  • In Cute Rock asking you if you would like to hang out with him at the beach. You are married and he is not. When he realizes that you and him are the only two on the beach, he begins to get a few ideas...but quickly decides against it since he doesn't want your husband angry at him for the rumors about you having an affair that could get around.
  • The idea that you can impregnate Leia is just so ridiculous that the developers couldn't resist making Dr. Hardy lampshade it.
    Dr. Hardy: (to Leia) So you're a mermaid, huh?...Well, never mind.
  • A conversation between Witch Princess and Keira shows that the latter tried to get WP killed for being evil. In revenge, Witch Princess put her into a magical coma and locked her away in a mine.

Island Of Happiness/Sunshine Islands

  • Lily has a line of dialogue where she mentions that she can't wait to bear your children.

Tree of Tranquility/Animal Parade

  • Rather than just making you or your spouse pregnant like in most games, you actually plan to have children in Animal Parade. But when you do so, your spouse makes comments along the lines of, "Well, if we're going to try to have kids, we've got our work cut out for us! <3"
  • In Animal Parade, several of the rival children will talk about the stork as you befriend them, but Heath's (Phoebe's and Calvin's son) comment is a bit risky.
    Heath: Dad says the stork doesn't bring babies. Then who brings them?
  • Gill has an infamous quote in the Japanese version of Animal Parade, which was removed for the English translation:
    "I want to lock you up in my basement and keep you all to myself."

The Tale of Two Towns

  • One of the date options for Hiro is "Hiro's Room".
    • Likewise, one of Oracle's date options is her house.
  • A post-marriage line for Mikhail is "At night, your voice is like a serenade to my heart." He adds that it's his favorite time of the day.
  • This game zigzags the animal breeding issue. On one hand, there are no more Miracle Potions, the livestock trader simply takes the animal off your hands for a couple weeks before returning them along with a baby. On the other, this makes complete sense: it's quite clear what goes on at a stud farm.
  • You can marry the nun Alisa but she has given herself to the Harvest Goddess. You can't have kids with her. It's all but said that you two don't have sex.

A New Beginning

  • The Harmony Day events. You can still give treats to the bachelors/bachelorettes even after you get married. And on their corresponding holiday, they'll still come into your house to give you treats. A few of the bachelors even specifically say what a shame it is you're married and then proceed to hit on you anyway.
  • If you marry Soseki, he will sometimes say that the pleasant weather makes him want to take a nap... and that he's hoping you'll join him.
  • If you wear a maid outfit, Allen tells you that you should wear it around the house.

Story Of Seasons

  • Raising Klaus' affection may have him mention that, if the player continues to be nice to so many men, she might end up getting devoured by a big bad wolf.
    • His second Heart Event involves Klaus talking about 'other activities' that can be done at home and asks the player if she wants to come over for a visit some time and try them out.
  • If the player is married to Mistel, some mornings he'll say he heard you saying his name in your sleep last night and wondered what you were dreaming.
    • A little piece caused by Gameplay and Story Segregation. Mistel's festival victory dialog if you're in a relationship or married with him has him talk about celebrating your victory later in the evening. Outside of your respective birthdays, the two of you can not dine together while you are in relationship but not married yet. Maybe he was thinking of another way to celebrate...
  • Proposing to Iris has her mention that she's an 'adult' woman and has a 'lot of experience'.
  • Klaus' "How were your dreams, and did they include me?" line can be interpreted as less than innocent.

Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns

  • Ford has a rather suggestive line:
    Though, if you do carry things too far, I may just have to think up some "punishment" for you. That promises to be amusing.
  • In Wayne's final Love Event, he gets offended when you imply that he has a lot of experience having women eating at his house. He has a lot of female admirers but he's never invited any of them over.

Edited by Pichu-kun on May 15th 2019 at 6:40:28 AM

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#530: May 16th 2019 at 7:35:45 PM

Is this on D a valid example of GCPTR (see the pothole)?

  • Loophole Abuse: A Real Life example: In order to ensure that D was published in the form he wished, Eno actually tricked the censors. First, he developed the game with no storyline, concealing the cutscenes from his own staff, then submitted a 'clean' version to the board for approval. He then deliberately submitted the master late, knowing that he would then have to deliver it by hand to the U.S. manufacturers. That gave him time to 'switch' the clean disc with the version he intended, bypassing the censors completely!note 

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#532: May 16th 2019 at 8:32:24 PM

That's definitely Radar. And the actions of a Magnificent Bastard.

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#533: May 16th 2019 at 8:33:59 PM

Quick question: does the Radar page for The Cat in the Hat contain valid examples?

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#534: May 17th 2019 at 8:49:10 AM

Most of those are Parental Bonus. They're not outright swearing or showing viewers material kids shouldn't see.

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#535: May 17th 2019 at 8:59:27 AM

[up] "S.H.I.T." and "Dirty hoe" are "outright swearing".

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#536: May 17th 2019 at 10:52:02 AM

"Dirty hoe" is said to a garden hoe and "S.H.I.T." is only implied as the titular character prevents Conrad from saying the initials of the Super Hydraulic Instantaneous Transporter.

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#538: May 19th 2019 at 6:41:05 PM

While more obvious than most Parental Bonuses, those jokes might not quite be true Radar. It's not like Mike-Myers-in-an-unconvincing-costume had a giant penis or anything, or explicitly swore.

Edited by Lymantria on May 19th 2019 at 9:41:25 AM

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#539: May 19th 2019 at 6:46:18 PM

Right, so should we cut that page?

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#540: May 20th 2019 at 9:39:19 AM

Or move it to Parental Bonus like we did with Radar.Calvin And Hobbes (now ParentalBonus.Calvin And Hobbes). One example that didn't have Word of God but otherwise probably fit was listed as GCPTR on the main page. The Calvin and Hobbes page uses the two tropes as they should be used, which they usually aren't (especially GCPTR).

The current definition seems like Chairs Sit on People to some people, especially if it requires Word of God (which is only to prevent arguing). But I think it has plenty of valid examples.

Edited by Lymantria on May 20th 2019 at 1:17:07 PM

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#541: May 20th 2019 at 2:09:41 PM

Getting Crap Past the Radar has been one of the most popular and widespread tropes for over a decade, but this clean-up suggests that it's actually a rare trope full of misuse. Most examples are either Parental Bonus or non-examples. Most pages are better off moved to Parental Bonus.

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#542: May 22nd 2019 at 6:47:27 PM

From Team Sonic Racing.

  • Getting Crap Past the Radar: One of Shadow's lines says something along the lines of "Let's slag these Egg Pawns!" While it might not seem bad in countries like the United States, but in the United Kingdom, "slag" is another word for "slut". Given that Sumo Digital is a British company, this was most likely intentional.

This sounds like Accidental Innuendo. "Let's slut these Egg Pawns!" doesn't make any sense.

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#544: May 23rd 2019 at 6:01:39 AM

[up]The example was readded due to there being no edit reason for its removal.

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#545: May 23rd 2019 at 7:54:41 AM

[up] Removed it and left a link to this thread in the edit reason.

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#546: May 23rd 2019 at 8:27:44 AM

Is that not Did Not Do the Bloody Research?

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#547: May 23rd 2019 at 9:01:52 AM

The company that developed the game is based in England, so no. Might be a Parental Bonus.

Edited by Tabs on May 23rd 2019 at 9:02:29 AM

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#548: May 23rd 2019 at 10:03:16 AM

  • Getting Crap Past the Radar:
    • In a misguided attempt to sound suave, Tim tells Lucy that he's "actually pretty good at being alone at night". Lucy is not impressed.
    • He tries to explain to a couple of passersby that the reason why he can hear Pikachu is because of "some strange gas" he sniffed. This gets him worried looks from several people.
    • When Pikachu brings Tim back to the apartment, Pikachu remarks about how he can't believe he's inviting someone back to the apartment on the first night, and he isn't normally that kind of Pokémon.
    • Pikachu complains about being cute, how people will pet him or put their hands on him or in him... It's gross.
    • While interrogating Mr Mime, Pikachu tells Tim to 'grow some berries'.

I think some of these are legit examples, but some of these sound more like Parental Bonus like the cocaine joke. It's on Pokémon Detective Pikachu BTW.

Any thoughts?

Edited by ReynTime250 on May 23rd 2019 at 6:03:58 PM

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#549: May 23rd 2019 at 10:40:11 AM

The Getting Crap Past the Radar pages for Pokemon need a clean-up in general. Most should probably be moved to Parental Bonus.

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#550: May 24th 2019 at 10:56:36 PM

[up][up][up] It's not a Parental Bonus either, since "Let's slut these Egg Pawns!" doesn't make any sense.

This example on The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds seems more likely accidental:

Edited by rjd1922 on Jun 15th 2019 at 10:34:46 AM

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