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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#7526: Oct 13th 2019 at 7:32:23 AM

Right, right. Sorry about that.

On a less risque note... I'm amazed at how simply working out the necessary supporting elements for my Evangelion supertank crew note  quickly led to the whole thing growing beyond being simply about said crew. Funny how it started as just "Evangelion cast in a world of real tank warfare".

Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 13th 2019 at 5:41:42 PM

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#7527: Oct 17th 2019 at 4:45:36 PM

Say, you know how many Evangelion fanfics, either in the narration or character dialogue, describe Adam and Lilith as godlike or even refer to them as "deities" due to their vast powernote ? Would that make Rei and Kaworu examples of Divine Parentage in those fanfics' contexts?

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#7528: Oct 17th 2019 at 6:13:23 PM

^ I think it might apply, but only in the loosest sense of "parentage".

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#7529: Oct 17th 2019 at 7:43:01 PM

Well, the common interpretation in the fandom is that Rei and Kaworu's bodies are at least partly derived from the flesh of Lilith and Adam, respectively. That doesn't sound like a loose sense of "parentage" to me.

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#7530: Oct 18th 2019 at 5:58:49 AM

"Parentage" specifically makes me think of a product of intercourse and childbirth, but that's me taking the trope as it's titled...others may disagree. In the case of Rei and Kaworu, I can't help but think of them as lab experiments and that kills any kind of parental context to their association with Lilith and Adam.

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#7531: Oct 18th 2019 at 6:08:40 AM

That misses the point of the trope, though: It's about divinity being a hereditary trait, be it in the biological sense or an analogous one in cases where the child is born through non-biological means, e.g. if they're born from an Energy Being parent by imbuing a portion of their Life Energy into an Empty Shell or into a physical host's body.

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#7532: Oct 18th 2019 at 7:16:13 AM

I'm not completely disagreeing with you. The trope's definition (and the majority of the examples, just from a cursory skim) are pretty definite about the child(ren) actually being conceived and birthed, and that's how I interpret the title just from reading it, but if there's some transmission of genetic material that produces the child, I think the trope can still apply, just in a Playing with a Trope sense and not a straight usage.

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#7533: Oct 18th 2019 at 2:40:53 PM

I can agree with it being a not-quite-played-straight usage.

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#7534: Dec 3rd 2019 at 9:35:35 PM

Man, this thread used to be quite active even when I wasn't.

Have any of you guys encountered fanfics where the Magi AIs become sapient, and possibly even get shipped with someone? The only one I know of is Digital Love, and... well, as usual for stories written by this particular author, the execution and writing quality leave a lot to be desired despite the innovative nature of the premise.

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#7535: Dec 8th 2019 at 4:38:08 PM

I didn't find any that I can remember, other than a brief snippet over at Spacebattles where the MAGI were playing Starcraft.

Even in SCE I'm not quite touching the topic, as the MAGI will get stealthily overwritten by the Geofront's 250 million year old AI whose own mainframe was failing and she needed a quick backup server, so she hacked and co-opted the MAGI's hardware without the humans noticing for the most part.

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#7536: Dec 13th 2019 at 7:50:56 AM

You know, I've always wanted to come up with an efficient way to refer to the following Cast Herds within the greater Evangelion cast and various combinations thereof. It would get pretty long-winded to rattle off all of their names in a summary of a given story's premise if I'm using them as a single Cast Herd.

  1. The Eva pilotsnote . These comprise two partially overlapping groups:
    1. TV series: Shinji, Rei, Asuka, Touji, and Kaworu.
    2. Rebuild movies: Shinji, Rei, Asuka, Mari, and Kaworu.
    3. Anima: three surviving clones of Rei, Hikari.
    4. Extracanonical: Kensuke (Battle Orchestra game and one TV series official art piece), Hikari (one TV series official art piece).
  2. Classmates of Shinji, Rei and Asuka that are named and either recurring or have great plot importance:
    1. Canonical: Touji, Kensuke, Hikari.
    2. Extracanonical: Mayumi, Mana.
  3. Relatives of the aforementioned classmates: Kodama, Nozomi, Sakura.
  4. T-RIDEN-T pilots: Mana, Musashi Lee Strasberg, Keita Asari.

Thoughts?

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#7537: Feb 7th 2020 at 1:50:54 AM

That peculiar moment when you realize you've left the second part of your first Eva fic on the shelf for four damn years.

And, oh by the way, actually only the second time I've ever gotten an Eva fic to the point that Rei got to become a cast member.

I'm sure that speaks quite well of me.

In any event, since this Shinji has soul-related powers included among with other things, I thought I'd try something a little different from what I normally see in Eva fic — and use it to kick off some actual character development, no less!

WAFF... actually is included, somewhat surprisingly.

Edited by EvaUnit01 on Feb 7th 2020 at 4:55:39 AM

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#7538: Mar 9th 2020 at 6:43:20 PM

What do you guys think, could an Evangelion / Eureka Seven fusion work?

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#7539: Mar 10th 2020 at 4:10:08 PM

Only someone sufficiently familiar with Eureka Seven would be able to answer that, but I doubt it would be "No".

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#7540: Mar 10th 2020 at 5:09:22 PM

[up] And that wouldn't be me, as I have yet to watch it.

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#7541: Mar 10th 2020 at 6:38:30 PM

You really should.

For reference, that girl is basically the local equivalent of Asuka. If Asuka had been raised by SEELE and hooked on painfully addictive Psycho Serum from a young age, that is.

Edited by amitakartok on Mar 10th 2020 at 2:48:04 PM

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#7542: Mar 12th 2020 at 8:43:32 AM

With hard work, guts, and sufficient creativity, I don't really think there's a fusion that can't be done in absolute terms.

So, yeah, fusing EVA with Eureka should be possible. Heck, thematically they really aren't even all that different. It would mostly be settling on the tone and degree of darkness/vs/lightness you want, I think.

For myself, I recently find myself musing about NGE being crossed over with Undertale. .....but, if Shinji were the main character who climbed up Mt. Ebott and then fell to the Underground, I legitimately don't think he would ever have the Determination to leave "Goatmom" Toriel and venture beyond the Ruins, outside of a very specific handful of circumstances, or if he's at an awkward point in the show where he's got enough functional relationships back home that, after some warm soup and a blanket to help him get a hold of himself, he decides he wants to go back.

Edited by EvaUnit01 on Mar 12th 2020 at 4:23:10 AM

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#7543: Mar 13th 2020 at 6:56:47 PM

Heck, thematically they really aren't even all that different.

They pretty much compliment each other.

Eva shows how much people suffer if they can't connect to each other.

E7 shows what people are capable of if they do connect.

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#7544: Mar 22nd 2020 at 7:55:21 PM

Say, do any of you know any fanfics where Mana Kirishima and Mayumi Yamagishi debut in-story as Evangelion pilots rather than the roles they had in their respective source games (T-RIDEN-T pilot/spy and unwitting Angel-host, respectively)?

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#7545: Mar 23rd 2020 at 8:07:48 AM

None that I'm aware of. I had an old concept back in the day about the two of them plus Mari being a "beta team" of pilots stationed elsewhere in Japan using pre-Unit 00 prototypes shoddily refitted for combat, but nothing came of it.


And of course Mana is going to be a Badass Normal Eva pilot in SCE, but that's years off and I can't decide how "normal" she's going to be (original plan was for her to have a stock MP model later refitted into a Drone Deployer, but I'm recently considering giving her a second unit of the Super Prototype her love interest would be using and refitting that, even though that feels like it cheapens her being a Badass Normal).

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#7546: Apr 9th 2020 at 2:28:47 PM

Badass Normal can still apply as far as her piloting skills, though, if she's being compared to superhumans like Kaworu and Rei.

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#7547: Apr 11th 2020 at 8:21:30 AM

Can anyone recommend Evangelion fics where Asuka or Misato are the main character? Preferably ones where Shinji doesn't play a big role, if he's there at all. All I have is a fic called Angels We Have Heard On High, which features an Asuka who arrives in Tokyo-3 at the same time Shinji does. It's an AU, where there are actually quite a few more divergences than just Asuka arriving early (ex.Misato and Ritsuko start out as a couple and Rei is already Rei-03. , but it's super good. The only problem is that it's really slow to update.

Edited by Bornstellar on Apr 11th 2020 at 8:24:46 AM

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#7548: Apr 11th 2020 at 10:47:59 AM

I remember this one fic where Shinji got tanged into Unit 01 against Sachiel and Asuka was called in to replace him because the Eva wasn't activating for anyone else.

Funnily enough, when Asuka started dating Toji, Shinji got so jealous that he dropped the LCL temperature in the entry plug whenever Asuka brought up the topic. grin


Also, Evageeks' intel guru Reichu recently started a Misato/Kaworu fanfic that explores the Freudian implications of a what-if scenario where Misato's dad was Kaworu's human genetic donor. You may want to consider checking that out.

Edited by amitakartok on Apr 11th 2020 at 7:48:51 PM

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#7549: Apr 13th 2020 at 5:33:14 PM

Say, imagine if the Evangelion characters where in the world of My Hero Academia, and each one was born with a Quirknote . What do you imagine the characters' Quirks would be? I'm thinking Asuka would be basically a living sun, using nuclear fusion within her cells to generate superheated plasma (and have gorgeous Flaming Hair as a side-effect).

[up] You forgot to mention when he stared Touji dead in the eyes while the teen was in the Eva hangar, then mimed "I'm watching you" with his hands before returning to physical dormancy.

Edited by MarqFJA on Apr 13th 2020 at 3:33:32 PM

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#7550: Apr 16th 2020 at 10:23:55 AM

I'm going to assume that you for the most part want them to still be treated as "main characters" - that is to say, have Quirks that are powerful/useful enough that the cast could plausibly make it in UA.

My go-to powers for Rei, invisibility and/or intangibility, are already taken by existing characters Tohru Hagakure and Mirio Togata respectively (oh shit I just realized that Togata's power is because he doesn't let anything phase him, he phases through it instead [lol][lol][lol]), so instead of mooching off of their limelight....

Let's see, symbolic moon connection, barely-understood immense destructive potential... aha, Rei stores up power when under the moonlight and can blast it out as a Wave-Motion Gun/Kamehamehadoken, just like the Satellite Cannon in After War Gundam X.

Shinji's Quirk should be that he's a hedgehog man, because almost nobody can get close to him without being hurt by his needles, whether he intends it or not. ...and then Shinji starts stalking and pining after either Kirishima or Tetsutetsu, because their Quirks of Hardening and Steel respectively mean they can touch him without constantly being pricked or stabbed.

The alternative and my actual favorite option, because Shinji being as he is frankly needs a power suited for keeping people away from him even despite his own best interests, would probably be throwing up invisible walls, mime-style. It even fits with his stubborn passive-aggressiveness, when he gets upset he won't say anything and you have to guess what the problem and solution are yourself.

The other alternative option that probably leads to society pushing him towards villainy and giving someone like All For One or Overhaul the chance to exploit him, is having an "powerful armored devil" (Unit-01) that he transforms into, but that probably comes too close to ripping off The Hulk.

Asuka.... hrm... "living sun" theory you went with could be okay, but with a Quirk that powerful she probably killed or roasted at least a few people from childhood Power Incontinence before she figured out how to get a handle on it, including her mother if not both parents. Consequently, even despite being what most people would call a Superpower Lottery winner, she still hates herself. Her goal of becoming a Pro Hero is supposedly just to soak in all the fame and glory someone as amazing as her so rightly deserves, but actually she's fishing for a sense of love and validation from society because she can't find any in herself.

Misato is a Quirkless police officer who takes care of any combination of two or more of the above as their legal guardian. She tries her best to be a good mom, but her PTSD and tendency toward seeking revenge against Villains for childhood/teenage traumas makes it hard sometimes.

Mana is the Girlfriend of Steel, but instead of turning super hard like Tetsutetsu, she instead gets super soft. As in, "T2-Terminator that's made of liquid metal and has Voluntary Shapeshifting "soft". The contrast between her and Tetsutetsu comes down to Mana being Weak, but Skilled in comparison to his Quirk being infinitely less versatile but significantly more focused.

Kensuke is a nerd and at most a sidekick character, so he probably has telescopic vision... or maybe even go up an extra level and give him "accelerated vision" like Spider-Man 2099, which could actually make him Hero material like Nighteye and Eraserhead if he puts in the physical training to go with it. And yes, he does use both the "see far off things at incredible detail" and "process everything he sees quickly enough that it could be in slow-motion" to perv on girls now and then. He'd be friends with Mineta and Kaminari. Just be thankful he doesn't have X-ray vision on top of that!

Toji..... eh. I got nuthin'.

Edited by EvaUnit01 on Apr 16th 2020 at 1:32:26 PM


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