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YMMV tropes about the band itself:

  • Award Snub: The 2003 Grammy awards nominated both Slipknot and Stone Sour in the Best Metal Performance category for "My Plague" and "Get Inside" respectively, giving Taylor and Root a 2/5 chance of taking home an award. Korn won that night (Slipknot won three years later for "Before I Forget" while Stone Sour is one of the most nominated bands without a win in the category's history).
  • Broken Base: ...over the shift away from their nu-metal beginnings.
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    • On that topic, is .5: The Gray Chapter Nu Metal, or no?
    • Jordison's departure from the band and Grey's death also broke the fanbase quite a bit. Jordison and Grey wrote a good chunk of the band's best material and some are worried that the rest of the band won't be able to match up to their song writing.
    • Every time they change to new masks. Many fans have been rather disappointed with the new masks following Jordison's departure, especially with Corey and Sid's masks.
      • While most of the band's masks for WANYK were praised, Corey's translucent mask was mocked to high heaven by fans for its rather large cheeks, making Corey look goofy, fat, or both.
    • Jay. Weinberg. He's either the kick in the ass that the band needed after years of increasingly poor performances from Joey, or he's a hack playing way above his ability level who got in solely because of his connections and whose energy and theatricality can't make up for his grossly inconsistent playing. People have warmed up to him over time, however, between the revelations about why Joey left (which also explained his steadily declining performances) and Jay's own massive improvements as a drummer and development of a style that is faithful to Joey's, but has his own touch, rather than just trying to copy Joey in every way.
      • Especially from Against Me! fans, as Laura Jane Grace responded to rumors about him joining by sarcastically wishing the band good luck, and indicating he was hard to work with.
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    • The album Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. The band themselves basically ignores its existence, now considering it a demo album while at the time they considered it a full debut album, and have re-recorded or reworked most of the songs, but it, along with early Slipknot in general, has a small but dedicated fanbase, some of whom actually consider it better than what came after.
    • The band's reputation suffered this again following Chris Fehn was fired from the band and began to sue them over royalty disputes (alongside Donnie Steele, who was a touring member for the band following Paul Gray's passing), making fans wonder if the band has been falling apart due to the aforementioned passing of Paul.
  • Contested Sequel: .5: The Gray Chapter has grown to be liked less and less by the fanbase with each year. While people were happy just to have a new Slipknot release when it came out, there were issues taken with the album on release (namely the bloated runtime, abundance of similar-sounding tracks, and Jay Weinberg's drum performance), and in the months leading up to We Are Not Your Kind, the fanbase came to see The Gray Chapter as a boring, one-dimensional, haphazardly written album that tried far too hard to be Iowa and wound up sounding like a cover band. While the band has not said anything on the matter, the fact that the album is completely absent from the current setlists save for "The Devil in I" and "Custer" is fairly telling.
  • Face of the Band: Jordison, Wilson, and Taylor mostly...which is sort of ironic given their schtick.
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    • With Jordison out, Taylor, Wilson, Root, and Crahan fit this role now.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Mostly with Mushroomhead fans. Juggalos and Maggots are also rivals somewhat, even though Slipknot's members are Juggalos. Insane Clown Posse and Slipknot are actually mutual admirers, although ICP is not fond of Slipknot's decision to call their fans "maggots". After Corey Taylor insulted Imagine Dragons, Firebreathers became opposed to Slipknot too.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Clown admitted that one of the reasons he dislikes the name All Hope Is Gone was because it was unintentional foreshadowing of bassist Paul Gray's drug and depression-induced suicide two years after it was released.
  • Heartwarming Moments: Jordison's Facebook post on the anniversary of Paul Gray's death.
    "Hey Paul, it was so great hanging out with you yesterday and today. Talking and reminiscing about old times and seeing you respond with some of the strongest gusts of wind I've ever felt."
    • After the tattoo story below, Taylor talks about how incredibly cathartic the experience was and how his wife is such a huge source of inspiration and strength for him.
    • Heartwarming in Hindsight: The grief the band received from fans after "firing" Joey. Once the news of Joey's illness came out, you realize that the band allowed themselves to be misblamed rather than betray Joey's secret.
  • Hidden Depths: Corey Taylor recently made a credible appearance as a guest on QI, proving to be both knowledgable and possessed of an excellent, dry wit.
  • Memetic Mutation: Corey's reputation for weighing in on a lot of issues gave birth to "But what does Corey Taylor think?", which gained enough ground to replace the Slipknot and Stone Sour news tags on Metal Sucks.
  • My Friends... and Zoidberg: The treatment Alessandro and Jay are getting from the band. The band aren't too happy with the two being replacements of Paul or Joey, Crahan in particular saying bluntly in an interview "This is Slipknot, fuck both of those guys. ... They'll never be in the band. Never." Ouch. It has however been pointed out that the reason the band (Corey and Crahan especially) are hard on the two is because it's part of a quote/unquote "hazing" to see how they can handle being in the band before actually confirming them as true members. Considering who Jay and Alessandro are replacing, it's understandable the band doesn't want to immediately give them Joey and Paul's numbers, being #1 and #2. In the end, They were given letters instead of numbers to solve this problem.
  • It's Popular, Now It Sucks!: Being one of the most popular metal bands ever, this is a given.
  • Squick:
    • The hidden track "Porn and Weed" on Slipknot, in which the band is recording themselves watching a scat porn video, including at least one member throwing up. This may also Cross the Line Twice for some, especially due to some of the comments the guys make.
    • The band released a box set that included a DVD in honor of the 10th anniversary of the release of their first album on September 9, 2009, or 9/9/09 (a reference to the collective name "the nine"). The very first scene on the DVD, following a foreword by Crahan, is of Wilson vomiting for about a minute and a half.
  • Tear Jerker: The live press conference held by the remaining eight members of the band the day after Gray's death. Listening to Jordison, Taylor, Crahan, and Wilson hold back tears as they spoke of how much they loved their fallen brother was insanely hard. Worse yet was when Thomson, upon being passed the mic, stared at the table in utter silence for a few moments before passing the microphone on down.
    • An episode of NY Ink had Taylor getting a tattoo in memory of Gray and he spends the entire time bawling his eyes out to his wife about how much he missed his friend and wishes he was still here, all while his wife tells him Paul's always been with him.
    • Joey's removal from the band. Many felt it was a Kick the Dog moment for the band kicking out their drummer and mixed with the fact Joey was turning Music Is Politics, but becomes more depressing, if it a heartwarming that Joey's true reasoning behind his removal was due to the fact he suffers from transverse myelitis, which is causing him to lose usage of his legs and the band taking the heat of his removal to protect his secret.
  • The Scrappy: Corey Taylor, thanks to overexposure on metal/hard rock sites like Blabbermouth.net and him generally saying and doing a lot of things that rub both fans and non-fans of Slipknot the wrong way, from polarizing the fanbase with his political views to slapping the cell phones out of fans' hands at concerts. And at this point, given how much Blabbermouth has featured him in their articles usually saying something inflammatory to rile people up(almost all the time), it doesn't come as much of a surprise that even fans of Slipknot's music are getting sick and tired of Corey Taylor himself.
    • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: In spite of the controversy he generates, Corey can also be recipient of this from both fans and haters of Slipknot whenever he stands up to other artists who also have the reputation of being primadonnas. He did get some appreciation by hardcore detractors when he himself bluntly told Chester Bennington off for his behavior in regards to fan's reaction to One More Light. Also, when Kanye West made the delusional claim that he was the "greatest living rock star on the planet," just about everybody was on Corey Taylor's side when he told Kanye off.
    • Jay and Alex were this at first considering they were replacing Joey and Paul, but both quickly won fans over with skill and clear indication of enjoying being in the band. They also had arguably the coolest masks for the We Are Not Your Kind cycle, showing that they've won the rest of the band over too.
  • True Art Is Angsty: Outside the band, Crahan is a prolific artist; his work pretty much lives and breathes the trope.

YMMV tropes about the music:

  • Catharsis Factor: Like many metal bands, their angry, violent, screaming music is perfect to put on when you're pissed off.
  • Ear Worm: "Before I Forget," Wait and Bleed," and "Duality" have extremely catchy choruses. Cory Taylor is famously insistent that, no matter how dissonant the song gets, it has to have a hook.
  • Epic Riff: "Psychosocial", "People = Shit", "Before I Forget", etc.
  • Gateway Series: To metal for some.
  • Fridge Brilliance: In the "Dead Memories" video, Paul stops mirroring Corey when Corey raises his hand. Paul was left handed.
  • Funny Moments: "Dogfish Rising". Clearly the result of boredom while recording Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. Half the band switches instruments, and clearly whoever is playing bass isn't as good at it as Paul was.
  • Growing the Beard: Depending on how much you hate nu-metal, the group's move to a more traditional metal sound with more guitar solos and less intrusive use of samples and turntablism could qualify.
  • Misattributed Song:
    • KMFDM's song "Sucks" has been spotted labeled as a Slipknot song. The song even states KMFDM's name!
    • "Look at Me" was also a commonly misnamed track on P 2 P networks, it was actually "Lookaway" by Sepultura.
  • Most Wonderful Sound: "8. 7. 6. 6. 6. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. Null." from the start of "The Heretic Anthem".
  • Nightmare Fuel: Now has its own page.
  • Signature Song: A four-way split between "Wait and Bleed", "Psychosocial", "Duality", and "Before I Forget" that really depends on who you ask.
  • Tear Jerker: "Snuff", "Vermilion Pt. 2", "Goodbye".
  • True Art Is Angsty: One review of their first album concluded that "these boys are clearly upset about something." They weren't kidding.
  • What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs?: "Dogfish Rising" from MFKR. So very much.


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