The Losers Club really did win... on their level of the Tower.
They killed IT for real. They smashed every last egg. Derry was destroyed, and was never rebuilt because there had never been any sane human reason to build a town there in the first place.Any appearance of a thriving Derry and/or Pennywise after 1985 (or the appropriate dates for the TV movie and the 2017 movie) take place on worlds where the Losers lost, or the kids never met, or were never born, et cetera.
It will cause the 2012 apocalypse
It's hibernation lasts roughly 27 years. The last time it woke up was in 1985 and It completely destroyed Derry. Now that King has revealed It's existence to the world, It will be forced to destroy the entire planet when It awakens in 2012 forcing humanity to start over so It can continue to exist in relative peace. At least until someone decides to write another book about It.
- This is either Jossed (if it ever needed to be in the first place), or after getting his face pushed in two awakenings in a row, Pennywise is sleeping in.
Pennywise certainly would qualify as a malign Youkai but he was just an avatar of a greater being, one far more powerful than a simple Youkai.
It being a woman wasn't omitted in the movie.
The "Kiss me fatboy" scene was just sexual tension.
The true form of the Deadlights is...
An innumerable number of "balloons" glowing with an orange light, floating endlessly. Within each balloon is the soul of one of the children that IT killed, causing them to float.
- That would actually make some sense.
- It would also strongly resemble some depictions of Yog-Sothoth.
- Adding one more thing, if these "balloons" have "strings" attached to them hanging down, would they not resemble a spider's legs?
She just uses a different tactic to get her food.
- There is a lot to suggest this. It's explicitly stated that IT is female. The final form is a spider. It shape shifts for the purpose of Mind Rape. The other world could be near to the deadlights. Even the setting could be a cryptic clue to the Beldam's true nature. Oregon has doubled for Maine before, this is just Neil Gaiman (a Stephen King fan) doing the same with Derry as he did for Castle Rock. He only gave the setting as Ashland to keep the clue cryptic.
- And the cat could be a reference to the turtle, the intelligent, perhaps omniscient, animal who lives in ITs world and counteracts her will. Man, this is getting clearer and clearer.
- Neil Gaiman wrote a story set in England. The film adaptation, which is in Oregon, was penned by Henry Selick.
The Turtle and IT are tied into the Dark Tower universe.
Roland explains that each beam has two guardians on the ends, and one greater demon elemental in the middle. The Turtle is Maturin, and IT is the demon elemental of fear. For that matter, Maturin's death was the result of the ongoing attempts at "breaking" the beam, and Bill and company inadvertently led to further weakening the structure by killing IT.
Stan Uris + Beverly Marsh = Stan Marsh
The creators of South Park got the name for one of the show's main characters from IT. Makes you wonder if a character named Beverly Uris will be introduced on the show.
- Pennywise appears in "Imaginationland" as one of the many evil fictional characters to appear.
Patrick Hocksetter is It's Baby-Daddy
Patrick has a great deal in common with It — preying on children, having everyone ignore or downplay his true nature, manipulating Henry to his own end, and reveling in the Losers' fear. When It initially meets him, Patrick is essentially immune to It's shapeshifting illusion. When It kills him, It drains him of his blood and vitreous humor, but It took the form of a leech originally because one once attacked Patrick's cock. It also drags him back to It's lair, where he briefly revives as It devours him, continuing the spider parallels by having It devour It's mate.
In the IT universe, there's no God or Devil.
At some point in the past, someone must have learned about the Turtle and It, and (barely) lived to tell about them. Over time, these stories were retold until they eventually became the God and Lucifer/Satan figures in religion. There's also no Heaven or Hell, and no one goes
anywhere after death.
- The book does state the victims of It, or at least some of them, go somewhere when they die. They remain in the dead lights. Which is arguably an approximation of Hell as it says that their minds are destroyed there.
IT is
Ungoliant. (Or at least related to her)
Both are
Eldritch Abominations in the shape of spiders with insatiable hungers.
Apples and oranges. IT of Camazotz was more a "viceroy" - a malign being put in charge of a planet that had given itself completely over to darkness. It was far smaller a scale, in charge of only one locale - Derry. However, comparing the Deadlights and the Black Thing actually nets you some similarity: Both are pure evil, both are straight-up Eldritch Abominations and both require cosmic power to fight against. Mere humans are killed just from being in their presence (as nearly happened to Meg when she tried to tesser though the Black Thing).
The Mrs. Ws and Maturin probably could have a long conversation, though...
Jossed. IT is one of the Associates of the Crimson King.
The man Beverly sat near on the plane was that world's version of
Eddie DeanHe's described as tying his ponytail back with a strip of rawhide, which became Eddie's distinctive look in the series. He might even be the same Eddie, since IT happens in '85, before Eddie was drawn to All-World.
Making It's offspring Flagg's own analogue to
Mordred.
IT will take on the form of slasher icons in the 2017 film.
Such as
Freddy Krueger,
Jason Voorhees,
Michael Myers and so forth.
It impregnated Itself through the Losers.
The question of how It got pregnant is never answered, but we know of one other funky fertility issue. Seven, actually. Sexless and unable to procreate as It is one of a kind, It sapped the Losers' virility (the male Losers) and fertility (Beverly) to impregnate Itself, effectively stealing their potential children to give to Itself as one more fuck-you. This drain may have also caused Bill and Eddie to start balding early.
- That's an intriguing idea and actually holds up under scrutiny; fighting It definitely did something to the Losers. 11 year old kids don't just decide to have sex - and orgasm - under any normal circumstance. Fighting It prematurely aged them in many ways, and the idea that It used Its connection to sap their virility and life force to spread more of Itself makes a lot of sense.
It impregnated Itself on a male victim.
It took the form of a female humanoid to rape a male victim before killing him, and the pregnancy stuck through all Its shapeshifting, with the potential children also changing shape in utero and becoming little Its.
It survived because Derry survived.
Its connection to Derry is noted, with the entire town under Its control and the town almost being destroyed when It supposedly dies. Key word:
almost. Derry is a reflection of Its soul and serves to help ground Its physical form, so while Its body was seemingly killed, Its true self beyond reality escaped death and remained intact. Derry
took heavy damage at the same time Its body died, but parts of it survived and remained habitable, with people electing to remain there and rebuild. By doing that,
they essentially restored Its body through Its connection to Derry and It is free to regain Its strength by sleeping and eating more children; if Derry had been fully destroyed and abandoned, It would've been unable to return there and perhaps would've been unable to the physical plane,
ever. Instead, It'll keep getting stronger and more entrenched in our world with Its power and influence growing, the surviving Losers none the wiser...
With Maturin being one of the few benevolent inhabitants.
It survived, but The Losers' Club put an end to It's killing sprees
While it's true that Derry was rebuilt after the storm of 1985, and while it's true that It/Pennywise survived, as referenced by the cameos and references made towards It in future Stephen King novels, The Losers have grievously wounded It, possibly crippled It, and killed a sizable proportion of Its unborn children.
The surviving It now knows two things: That not only is It not invulnerable, but that there is a force on Earth that is opposing It, whether it was the Turtle or The Other.
As such, It is in hiding indefinitely. And if not, then the other will assemble other groups of children to fight It if it becomes necessary.
The Turtle never died.
Yes, seeing Maturin's empty shell certainly convinced Ben, but they really only had Its word (and the absence of direct communication) that the Turtle had died. Maturin was an infinite cosmic being, as much an Eldritch Abomination as Itself was - but a rare example of a benevolent Eldritch Abomination. Such beings don't just up and die because they hork up a few galaxies. The Turtle may have been an absent player later on (forcing the Other to take the reins) but it wasn't dead. Perhaps merely sleeping?
They both tarn into monsters to scary kids and adults and they both like to appear as creepy pale faced men. the biggest difference is the perspective. in the book IT the monster is seen thought the view of the children who see Beetlejuice as a scary clown that torments them and calls himself Penny Wise because he can't say (or want others to to say) his real name. In the film Beetlejuice he is seen thought the view of the ghosts who see him as a disgusting man who doesn't work well with others.
Why IT had eggs.
IT doesn't age and asides from something killing it(or possibly starving, it might just eat
out of enjoyment), so there's no biological need for IT to eat. After being beaten by the Losers, IT realized that it's existence was at threat and thus needs to carry on its' genes. It's also possible that IT wanted to spread its influence beyond Derry so sired numerous spiders. Given the true nature of IT, the eggs may not even be real offspring and more
a way to outlast physical destruction and/or
be in multiple places at once.
Despite being an
Eldritch Abomination IT is malevolent on a human level and seems more interested in messing with them than its contemporary Maturin. IT can shapeshift, has a nebulous form and is a
Faux Affably Evil Satanic Archetype. Sounds like Nyarlathotep, although much less impressive. Nyarlathotep thought it'd be amusing to sire IT to one day terrorize the human world. Maturin could also be one his spawn, but good-hearted either out of free will or because Nyarlathotep found the idea of two of its scion not getting along and fighting
amusing.
One of IT's eggs survived.
They managed to kill IT, however even in the narrative they aren't certain they stamped out every one. One of these eggs survived and is taunting the Losers
about what happened to their parent. The Deadlights remaining could be something inherent to whatever IT's species is. Given that it's young, this spawn of IT isn't ready to emerge yet, perhaps not until the Losers have passed away, but its' lurking. It's possible that it isn't even an offspring but a reborn IT; after all, what would a nearly immortal
Eldritch Abomination from beyond the stars need with reproduction, other than a way
to preserve its consciousness in case of death.
