Re. Yuki in class.
I also got the impression Yuki really do attend to class, but it's likely a low priority at best for her. Considering her capabilities, all the school-related work must not be that much difficult for her than lighting a match.
I can't remember where (kbdh? canon? fanon?), but I believe I remember Taniguchi mentioning once that Yuki almost never speak in class, something along the lines of that it's such a rare occurrence that her classmates thought that something big was going to happen every time she does.
Re. Classes' reassignments.
IINM, at some point Kyon mentioned students must choose a course more focused in either sciences or humanities after their first year. I looked up at it and I found the following in the first chapter of the ninth novel:
Although I wanted to ask [Haruhi] whether this sentence meant she was happy or unhappy about the outcome, at this moment I have the same sentiments as well. In 2-5, other than Haruhi and me, Taniguchi and Kunikida are still around too. Even our homeroom teacher is still Okabe-sensei, known for his care towards students. Although there are some classmates whose names I don't know despite remembering having seeing them before, the most important thing is that they had all came from 1-5. I also heard that all the students who decided to study in the science stream were just enough for a class, and thus 2-8 had been allocated solely for this purpose. Students from 1-8 were then disbanded and split into the other seven classes. Of course there are some who are being needlessly shuffled from one class to another. Okabe-sensei's purpose in making us introduce ourselves again is probably to accommodate these people who have been forced to evacuate and join us.
Obviously, I doubted the authenticity of this sorting exercise, and approached those who seemed suspicious no matter how you look at it, and who had the ability to manipulate such events at will.
"Did you arrange this?"
Their replies were: "No." Nagato replied monotonously. Miraculously, she added, "It is just a coincidence."
"We did not do anything. I guess it is the decision of the school. The 'Organization' has decided not to question this event any further." Koizumi concluded with a bitter smile.
"I suppose it is coincidental."
It seems they are serious about it.
Although in my heart I know of a lady who has the ability to change a coincidence into a necessity, I guess I shall not elaborate on that further.
Does this mean that Asahina-san and Tsuruya-san were sorted into the same class as well? If it is indeed this way, there is a possibility that the Tsuruya family could be behind this, but even if this is true, I have no idea how I could ask them appropriately. Also, even if there are differences in level and classes, everyone would still gather in the same place after school anyway.
In short, in Canon the class 2-5 has all the students of the former class 1-5, sans Asakura, plus a few new faces since the beginning of the school year and apparently all this was really just a big coincidence.
@Filraen:
I think we are missing the context of that quote.
I didn't consider that factor, but I don't think Emiri or IDSE in general will bother with that, after all Haruhi and Sasaki are already pretty close to each other.
Now I wonder how the Brigade is going to handle the reunions in the clubroom if they don't bring Sasaki into the loop first. If Kyon to supposed to escort her home after classes, I think is kind of mean to make her wait until after club activities.
Because of this, I think it's a safe bet to assume the Internal Reveal of the supernatural is meant to happen during this weekend in-story.
Random thought.
Does Achakura know about the unintended brainwashing to Yamane?
Random picture from nowhere.
Stupid Sexy [Subject Name Here] 
edited 12th Nov '12 6:02:39 AM by Specular
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Sorry, this is as answer of a PM I sent through FF, but the site didn't let me login to check my outbox history until now and then...
... it was in the old-styled outbox which was purged from FF so I don't think I have it anymore.
Anyway, I was asking about Yuki failing to mention the an extended error correction session the day Kyon was shot, considering his sleeping arrangements (sleeping with Haruhi and Yuki in the same hospital bed) were against beintg teleported for training. That because it was my impression Haruhi got more stressed with Kyon being shot (he got an actual potentially lethal injury, long wait in the hospital, etc.) than in the slider robot fight.
The quote I posted earlier is the whole answer to that question.
The Brigade will go to Hinamizawa the weekend, yet Sasaki needs to believe in the supernatural for going with them. They only have "today" (in-story: Fri, Jun 17).
edited 12th Nov '12 6:53:33 AM by Filraen
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I always assumed future!Kyon helped present!Yuki with that. It's not the only alternative though.
Filraen! You're not thinking fourth-dimensionally!
edited 12th Nov '12 7:28:08 AM by Specular
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I'm torn to take this as a serious or joking answer.
Well, as far as the story goes there's no reason for the brigade to go back in time to that weekend yet. (I forgot what I was going to say if you were joking)
Also, it isn't like I'd store the old fanfiction.net outbox just in case I'd need to check the messages I sent, right?
Yuki said after the fight against the spider robot thing that she needed an extended data purging session that night because of Haruhi using her power uncounciously on a more heavy rate due to (I guess) being under that stressful day. [now the main part of these paragraphs] What happened the night Kyon was shot? I find especially strange there's no mention of an increased "junk-data creation" that day when Haruhi even was Not Herself and only Koizumi's interference prevented her from killing. Or worse, how could Yuki skip that day as I believe it was the worst "junk data creation" since Haruhi's Memory Gambit?
was my "question" to...
While you're right that Kyon being shot and Kyon being attacked by the slider on the beach were both stressful to Haruhi, consider that Sasaki was only near one of those events....
Wait, I had forgotten about that first paragraph. (in the answer)
edited 12th Nov '12 7:24:06 PM by Filraen
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Saint of Asakuraism
Spec is that a new Puyo illustration of Sasaki, or one of the old ones? Puyo's twitter seems to have disappeared, and I'm wondering if he packed up and moved to a different account.
Dost Thou Desire the Power ... Glove? It's so bad.
@Filraen:
Actually, it's both. I admit perhaps I should have provided a more explicit answer, but I couldn't pass up the chance to quote "Doc" Brown. 
What I mean to say is Kyon could resort to Fantastic Time Management during the following days in-story. The reason is I don't think is such a good idea for Kyon to leave Nishinomiya without Sasaki in tow because he has standing orders from the kumichou to protect her, which I think he should follow through at least until the moment of meeting with the Sumiyoshi-rengo on Monday (he could still go if no one notices his absence though, it would be tricky but Teleportation is useful like that). If he manages to convince her before their trip to Hinamizawa, then there is no problem. But if he doesn't, then he could stay behind during the weekend with Sasaki (and probably Haruhi, I think she and Kyon would be the best emotional support for Sasaki during such a big paradigm shift) until the Internal Reveal takes place and then they will go back in time (most likely thanks to adult!Mikuru) to a point a little before the rest of the moment the Brigade arrives to Hinamizawa.
Or it could go the other way around and Kyon could first spend those days in Hinamizawa with the Brigade, where future!Sasaki is waiting for him, and then redo the weekend in Nishinomiya following whatever clues his future self left with her.
Idea: Kyon's Big Damn Kiss ⇒ Sufficiently distracted Sasaki ⇒ No Power Nullifier ⇒ Backward Time Travel becomes possible and explanations with overwhelming mundane evidence can take place.
Re. Correction session.
Thanks for taking the time to track down that info. I think now I get it.
@Grahf:
That avvie
◊ is based in one of the illustrations
◊ from the Puyo's old twitter account. Apparently, the new one is for confirmed followers only.
By the way, a while ago I wrote a little script to manage my handle's profile in TV Tropes (in that way my old handle always have the same avatar and sig than the current one). In said script I put a procedure that edits the target of link tiny.cc/tvt-avvie to avvie's source so I can easily track it down if I'm away from my home computer.
Long Story Short, you can find the source or a better resolution (if available) of my current avvie there.
Why do I need a title again?
Kitsu! I live again!!!
...anyways, sorry that I was gone for a bit, but Hurricane Sandy shot my internet down hard, and I have no clue when it'll come back up. I'm using my kaa-san's* internet line to talk to you guys, so for the moment, any and all internet interactions from me are extremely limited. 
Edit: Oh, I almost forgot about this, but...
Does the scene with Kuyou making "cookie planets" count as Oven Logic, by chance? I figured that I should ask at least that, while I'm here, kitsu.
edited 14th Nov '12 1:18:17 PM by MadKitsu
I have returned, and my vacation in the void was so boring...
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Oh yes, it would count as a creative variation of either Exaggerated or Parodied Oven Logic, no doubt.
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A thought that occurred to me:
If Taniguchi and Kunikida = Those Two Guys for Kyon and Yanagimoto and Sakanaka = Those Two Girls for Haruhi, would the fact that Taniguchi and Yanagimoto are dating and that Kunikida and Sakanaka are going to start dating count as Pair the Spares?
There was something else, but I can't quite recall it right now.
EDIT: Oh, yeah. Now I remember. Haruhi's flying ability. From Chapter 49:
Is this a case of New Powers as the Plot Demands or is it more How Do I Shot Web?
EDIT 2: Haha double question mark. Forgot it's part of the trope name.
edited 15th Nov '12 4:50:42 AM by JasonUlloa
Going by the trope as it's described ("spares" meaning people with a romantic interest in the Official Couple who are both heartbroken and end up with each other) I'd say no, but a looser definition might apply, and I see a lot of "looser definition" examples on that page.
edited 15th Nov '12 4:57:29 AM by Eamil
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To your edit, that's almost certainly New Powers as the Plot Demands. Haruhi even lampshades it immediately after the bit you quoted:
That's what I was trying to get at. I use the examples already in place as a metric of how flexible to be.
edited 15th Nov '12 5:04:25 AM by Eamil
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
That's not a completey accurate approach, but yeah, tropers tend to fall afoul of the pitfall of overly restrictive descriptions when writing trope articles/YKTTW drafts. It's something that even the mods recognize as an unfortunately frequent occurrence, though they also say that Tropes Are Flexible itself also gets misused to take an overly broad interpretation of other tropes.
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Tropes:
Quit Your Whining? Chekhov's Hobby?
Kuyou being A Form You Are Comfortable With/Humanoid Abomination? (not sure which one is the right one here)
Kunikida may count by the definition in PlayingWith.Pair The Spares: "Characters are paired together in order to make them unable to compete for the affections of the characters who are the main couple". After all, it looks like Haruhi is trying to get Sasaki with Kyon too.
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Tropes questions.
For the first one, how about:
- Oven Logic: Up To Eleven. Kuyou takes Mikuru's cooking advice about the importance of the proportions between ingredients at face value, a misconception that led her to think she can achieve good results if she simply works at a scale more comfortable for her perception and powers as long as the proportions are respected. Long story short, in Chapter 57 she tried to make a cookie six-point-five times as big as the planet Jupiter in this manner. Apparently, at this scale the gravitational field generated by cookie's own mass interferes with the baking process.
and
- Mundane Utility:
- Kuyou's "Grand Alchemy of Cookie Creation"
Also, do you think Kuyou qualifies for Mundane Object Amazement because of her interest in cookies? (It's more like "Mundane Process Amazement" though)
Regarding to A Form You Are Comfortable With/Humanoid Abomination, doesn't that counts a redundant trope from canon?
About New Powers as the Plot Demands, I actually think there could be a little of Truth in Television in there because of the mechanisms involved. Amnesiac patients (Laser-Guided Amnesia in this case) can instinctively access acquired skills when they need them even if they don't remember how they got them, things like riding a bike, driving a car or martial training (e.g. The Bourne Identity, Second Sight). I'm not really certain of this, so how about this for now?
- Die or Fly: See New Powers as the Plot Demands below.
- New Powers as the Plot Demands: Haruhi discovered that she can use her Mind over Matter powers to Flight out of pure necessity in order to put Nonoko out of the line of enemy fire in Chapter 47. Taking into account how Haruhi acquired her "daytime" powers, this is most likely an Invoked Trope courtesy of her Memory Gambit.
I'm tempted to add a Pot Hole to Lampshade Hanging in that quote.
I'm not sure if we have an instance of Pair the Spares in Kunikida and Sakanaka's case because the latter never showed interest in anybody else.
@Filraen:
That's an interesting observation. From the impression I got, it seems Haruhi in Genre Savvy enough to foresee said potential Relationship Upgrade, but the conversation with Yanagimoto and Sakanaka in LL-2* suggests she is uncomfortable with the idea. I'm not sure if Haruhi is currently trying to warm herself to the possibility or if she is just feeling guilty of hiding something like that from Sasaki.
What do you mean?
Before I forget, what do think of the following tropes for Kyon's entry in the Characters' page:
- Facial Dialogue: Noted as good on this by other characters.
- Guilty Pleasures: Roofhopping. Kyon surely seems to go out of his way to avoid mentioning (especially to Haruhi) how much he really enjoys the chance to emulate his old manga heroes.
Edit.
It seems definition lists don't work inside quoteblocks. I'm sorry about that.
edited 15th Nov '12 10:52:53 AM by Specular
My K:BDH Recursive FanfictionMundane Object Amazement: Didn't know about the trope, but it describes exactly Kuyou's amazement with cookies, one of her first focused observations. After all she's still fascinated of the universe now that her new memory module gave her "untold amounts of spin".
Yes, mentally Kuyou is essentially a child.
A Form You Are Comfortable With/Humanoid Abomination: depends on what is exactly is Kuyou in canon. Expanding more: Yuki was made after the unmentioned incident three four years ago, and it's pretty much sonsidered Yuki being the body, an Humanoid Interface between the IDSE and humans. KBDH!Kuyou, on the other hand, made her body as a copy of Sasaki's note but she existed before, probably since the beginning of the universe.
Now the big question is: what is canon!Kuyou and what are the differences with KBDH!Kuyou? Any differences are valid trope instances for the character trope page.
Haruhi shipping Sasaki/Kyon: my bet right now is Haruhi feeling guilty
Quit Your Whining/Chekhov's Hobby: I was just thinking in Taniguchi's speech to Kunikida in Re-1. Quit Your Whining being a non-physical Bright Slap, in this case empowered by the powers of ham and... voice acting.
edited 15th Nov '12 11:12:59 AM by Filraen
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As far as I can remember this question hasn't been sufficiently answered in canon. Pretty much any details about Kuyou in BDH aside from her appearance, the strange gaps when she talks (which I think went away in novels 10 and 11 for no reason), and the name of the Sky Canopy Domain are unique to BDH.
@New powers entry: I'd personally word it like this but I'm just quibbling.
Edit: Also, I don't know if it and Die or Fly should go on the character page, they're not really tropes that describe the characters. Those two you mentioned for Kyon, though, are perfect. (Incidentally I'm positive there has to be a trope for Iyouji recognizing Kyon purely because of his deadpan, annoyed expression, but I can't think of what it is.) Same for Kuyou and Oven Logic, that trope description works and I think it fits on the character page.
@Marq: It's a fine line to walk, it seems. I noticed a couple examples on that page that were less "pair the spares" and more "pairing side characters at all."
edited 15th Nov '12 1:39:11 PM by Eamil
I just commissioned this
◊ from a friend.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
... <raises placard with "7" written on it>
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Is that on a Four-Point Scale? ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
(Sorry, numeric scores always remind me of things like that. )
Lurking Puma
I wouldn't go past 6 on it myself.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
No, on a 10 point scale. And I'm being generous, if only because of the premise itself rather than the artstyle quality.
I think you misunderstood what I mean by Four-Point Scale if you think I was accusing you of giving it an off-the-scale score.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Huh. Didn't know we had that as a trope. I should've clicked on the link before posting.
edited 15th Nov '12 7:03:36 PM by MarqFJA
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This conversation activated my Word of God card:
While you're right that Kyon being shot and Kyon being attacked by the slider on the beach were both stressful to Haruhi, consider that Sasaki was only near one of those events....
I've come to interpret that as the need for extra data correction wasn't because of Haruhi being stressed but Haruhi and Sasaki meeting.
Now, with this info and knowing the they managed to pull strings in the school administration before, I think the IDSE may want to pull strings to have Haruhi and Sasaki share the same class.
edited 12th Nov '12 3:53:07 AM by Filraen
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