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openRecreating Characters/GuiltyGearStrive Videogame
So the character page for Guilty Gear Strive was deleted after the main page got deleted. As of right now, the character information and tropes posted in the Strive characters page can't be found on other pages. Is it possible to restore this particular character page?
openEdit War alert Videogame
Yesterday, Ame 14 added Student Union to Ren'Py-based games that have a page on this wiki index. As you can see, it is red link, so Koveras commented it out and explain in the edit reason that it's a list of games that has pages here.
Today, Ame 14 uncommented it despite it is still a red link (Koveras also commented it out again, but I see no problem with that).
openNo More Gameplay Videogame
Uninspired Username 279 seems to be running a script that removes the word "gameplay"? So far this only seems to have taken effect on VideoGame.Super Paper Mario though.
openHow do I include special characters in page titles? Videogame
Things like quotation marks or colons. I'm trying to create a work page where the title has an apostrophe but if I try to create a page by modifying the URL, special characters aren't allowed. This is the game I want to create a trope page for.
openWhat kind of page do mods and fanmade songs for Friday Night Funkin go into? Videogame
So, I'm the main guy who launched and frequently checks the Friday Night Funkin' page, and as I've been looking around the edit histories, it's become evident that a few tropers would like to add examples of mods/fan created songs to pages like Awesome Music and Nightmare Fuel. I for one think that FNF has a healthy modding community ripe with lots of examples and I was hoping that these would breath new life into the page during the lulls of waiting for the game itself to be updated, so I tried making a fan works page, since you can't add examples of mods to main pages. Unfortunately, I used the page incorrectly (Accidentally. My bad.) and it got cut. I can only assume that we should use the Fanfic Recs option? I'm a little confused on the matter since I wouldn't really consider game mods fanfics.
Edited by GraysonBaueropenReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming and a Halo franchise example with possible spoilers Videogame
My main concern is how to write this so as to avert creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler. The Flood in Halo is very clearly named after the Genesis flood narrative, but how would I go about adding this in to the page without creating a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler since in the backstory, the Flood were effectively created as a means to purge the Forerunners, who retaliated by creating an Ark to preserve most species?
Edited by EclipseMTopenJumpStart Wiki Word - Space or no space? Videogame
The Wiki Word for Jump Start is in an awkward situation. The name belongs to both a comic strip and a video game series, but the comic strip's title has a space between the two words, while the game series' title doesn't. Could we maybe add a suffix to each work page? Something like "Jump Start (comic)" and "JumpStart (game)" and make them separate pages so that both pages can have the correct spacing?
Edited by DrNoPumaopenCover Image Videogame
Hello, all. I have a quick question about image copyrights.
Where does the cover art for a video game fall? When is it okay to use and not okay to use?
openDoes having your memory erased and replaced with FakeMemories count for BrainwashedAndCrazy. Videogame
So there's a character in Fire Emblem Awakening, whose backstory involves her being kidnapped as a teenager by people she hates, having her entire memory and personality erased to the point she no longer remembers her parents or even her name, and then all this being replaced with a Fake Memories magically implanted into her mind. She is then used to carry out her kidnapper's bidding.
The character describes herself as a ""A girl enslaved mind, body, and soul" and the official sources use "pawn" and "puppet to describe her, with the Fire Emblem wiki(link , ) describing her with the word, "brainwashed."
The reason I put this here is someone keeps contesting this example and saying she wasn't brainwashed, even though there is a similar character listed from Sailor Moon. I wanted to know what ATT thinks? Does that count as an example of Brainwashed and Crazy?
Edited by MonsundopenNotifier for Copying Straight from Other Wikis Videogame
I noticed the creation of Characters.Atelier Ryza 2 Lost Legends And The Secret Fairy within the past day and, looking at its original version, noticed that nearly all of the present character profiles were copied straight from the Atelier Wiki: https://atelier.fandom.com/wiki/Atelier_Ryza_2:_Lost_Legends_%26_the_Secret_Fairy
I've removed the copied profiles but also want to notify the original editor about the issue. As there isn't a dedicated option, I went with "none" and elaborated as best I could.
That begs the question: Will that type of notifier be added in the future or is it not considered common enough to warrant being an option?
openIndentation issues Videogame
Zenaida Zeal recently added an incorrectly indented entry in YMMV.Dragon Age Inquisition.
I fixed the indentation and sent them a notifier. Today, they reverted it.
I mean, I get making a mistake out of ignorance, but I just can't explain this.
openMass Effect 2 YMMV Videogame
YMMV.Mass Effect 2's examples are sorted into folders for different characters. Is this okay?
YMMV.Mass Effect 1 and YMMV.Mass Effect 3 are not sorted like this.
openFeral Video Game page recreation Videogame
I'd like to recreate the page for the video game Feral. I play the game regularly and have at least a few ideas for what tropes to put on the page, including Darker and Edgier (than the studio's previous work, Animal Jam), Green Hill Zone (Lakeroot Valley), Bubblegloop Swamp (Mugmyre Marsh), and others. I also have some thoughts for a YMMV page and perhaps even a WMG page (including lots about Blood Tundra, of course!)
openSense: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story has a OBC entry that's very strange. Videogame
Sense: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story has a very strange Overshadowed by Controversy entry that doesn't explain the whys and how it was overshadowed.
Also it's based around the moral backlash against the Switch version which has not released, doesn't it count if it is based around an recently released version?.
Update; Here's the entry.
- Overshadowed by Controversy: As mentioned on the main page under Content Warnings, the developers had to release an official statement that the Switch port of the game will remain uncensored. This is because, as this news update states, coverage of the game "was shared in some twitter and facebook groups which made it their mission to harass and send abuse toward both [Top Hat Studios Inc] as well as the developers of Sense publicly and privately, including significant threats as well as doxxing in addition to other less than ideal messages and false information about the game". Said media attention then led to the publishers "accused of making up the controversy for a marketing stunt, which, as those who follow [Top Hat Studios Inc's] social media may have seen, was certainly not the case".
openEdit War in YMMV/FinalFantasyXV Videogame
Immortal Bear re-deleted an entry I restored to Final Fantasy XV since their original deletion lacked an edit reason. They've provided an explanation after the fact, but most of it comes off as personal opinion and dislike of the Episode Ignis ending for reasons unrelated to what the original entry was about (that being that audience perception of its tone shifted due to Dot F), rather than an impartial collective observation of the reactions of the fandom at the time.
I've PM'd them as much, pointing out to them that they seem to take the YMMV label too literally as its actual focus is to describe audience responses to a work rather than to post personal opinions, that contrary to their belief the page is not trying to wage a war over which ending is objectively better, and I've also pointed out to them that though they claim the only people with a non-negative opinion are a Vocal Minority, other tropers have made the same observations as me regarding the state of the fandom at the time.
They seem to believe that because Dawn of the Future has an overall score of 9.0 on Good Reads (which often has a userbase culture distinct from the social media sites I frequent like Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, or imageboards, and whose score doesn't always take into account things like the specific comparative tone of the ending), while Episode Ignis rates an average of 7.0 (the score again mostly focusing on things like gameplay rather than tone), that it invalidates everything I've said above, since I don't have hard sources on hand for every tweet or social media comment I've seen regarding people being softer on Episode Ignis's ending or disliking Dawn of the Future's approach.
I don't think that makes for an effective counterargument as YMMV does not mandate sources in general, and Dawn of the Future's perception outside of GR tends to attract a lot of negativity in its own right, not to mention disregarding said potential inherent selection bias (the people posting reviews were probably accepting enough of the controversies around the book to read through the whole thing). The reviews themselves on GR are variable with many positive scores criticizing the ending, and many reviews that praise the ending having mediocre scores on the whole.
None of the arguments they've provided contradict the initial point (that people's opinions of Episode Ignis became less hostile once Dawn of the Future was announced) of nor justify the deletion of the entry describing how people's hostility to a certain alternate ending seen as overly happy, dipped off once another, even happier ending showed up. Especially since the edit reason for deleting it is focused mostly on arguing why Alternate Ending #1 is badly written and any talk of audience reactions is more about pointing out that a portion of the audience exist who liked the other newer, even happier ending, even though the original entry never claimed otherwise or to speak for the entirety of the fandom.
Update: They are now accusing me of outright lying and being biased in favor of one ending for disputing their deletions, despite the major issues here having to do with a lack of, followed by questionably irrelevant removal reasons in what is a potential edit war. Update 2: They've taken it back after I explained myself further.
Edited by AlleyOopopenAccidentally cutlisted wrong page. Videogame
Meant to Cut List Characters.Kaiju Combat, ended up cut listing the actual page, Characters.Colossal Kaiju Combat, instead. Please deny that cut.
openHow should Characters/FateEXTRA be split? Videogame
Given that the character page for Fate/EXTRA has gotten overly long, how should it be split?
openCan we start new Balan Wonderworld page? Videogame
The page for Balan Wonderworld was cut for being a stub. I guess it's because the game hasn't been released yet. But now that a demo for the game has been released, there is quite a lot more to talk about without speculating. Can we recreate the page?
Edited by DrNoPumaopenEdit War at Characters.Dead By Daylight Killers Videogame
There's some back and forth going on at Characters.Dead By Daylight Killers, in which ~Light Seeker 001 and ~Horrorcomicnerd are respectively adding and removing the name "Bubba" from Leatherface's entry. This has happened 3 separate times over the last month; most recently, they have substituted Edit Reasons for Discussion.
I've sent both a PM pointing out that this is an Edit War and pointing them to this report.
Edited by sgamer82
Hi I'm new here and I was wondering how this wiki-page is going, if you can edit or add or you have to inform the moderation beforehand.