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Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5351: Dec 29th 2018 at 1:03:48 AM

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In the game, you are supposed to be an arbitrator of Kyras's laws. <- period However, you will invariably going to find yourself interpreting them more flexibly. At the end of the game, you are summoned by the highest court to be held responsible for your actions throughout the game. Even though he is supposed to be the highest authority on Kyras's laws, you can still beat Tunon, the Archon of Justice himself, in his own court.

The first sentence in the paragraph is actually two separate sentences connected by a comma splice.

You can tell they're two sentences because of the word "however", which is usually used to start a new sentence.

RubenFerro Since: Sep, 2018
#5352: Dec 30th 2018 at 12:10:24 AM

Game: Agarest: Generations of War

Combination Attack: There is over 100 combination attack in the game. Interestingly enough, they are performed only by chaining together the right skills, meaning that even a single character can perform them if they have the right amount of action point.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5353: Dec 30th 2018 at 2:40:27 AM

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There are over 100 combination attacks in the game. Interestingly enough, they are performed only by chaining together the right skills, meaning that even a single character can perform them if they have the right amount of action points.

brb1006 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5354: Jan 1st 2019 at 11:40:23 PM

Sylvania Families Characters

  • Mascot: Since 2010, Bell has become the official mascot for the franchise. Appearing in commercials and making special appearances at events across the globe.
  • Cry Cute: In "The Treasure of Calico Village", Bell is seen crying after she finds Aidan unharmed after hearing that he got lost in a forest. She also breaks down when she tells the entire village that decided out of the competition.
  • Stepford Smiler: When Stella learns that her clothing line won't be in the competition. She tries her hardest not to show signs of sadness and disappointment.

Sylvanian Families

  • Series Mascot: Starting in 2010, Bell Hopscotch is now the official mascot for the franchise and toy line. Aidan, Melinda, Dominic and Susie also serve as secondary mascots.

Edited by brb1006 on Jan 1st 2019 at 2:41:30 PM

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#5355: Jan 2nd 2019 at 12:15:58 AM

Back again for some proofreading

  • Chivalrous Pervert: Denji's main goal is wanting to fondle some breasts of a woman. However, he willingly tries to help others in need such as at one point, he won't try to hurt a child and the devil due to their strong relationship reminded him of his relationship with Pochita. Unfortunately, said relationship was just a facade because said demon is manipulating the girl.
  • Cute Monster Girl: Power is a demon humanoid girl who also has a charming devil like attitude and has soft spot for cats.
  • Darker and Edgier: The manga is considered to be one of the most darkest manga in Jump's history due to the brutal and bloody first chapter because of the seemingly out of place violence and the Downer Beginning of the series which started with Denji's father committing suicide due to the huge debt that he has to pay and Denji who ended up getting betrayed by the Yakuza who gave Denji said debt to begin with by chopping all of his bodyparts off.
  • Demon Slaying: Much like it's predecessor, Kimetsu no Yaiba and Jujutsu Kaisen, this is the premise of the manga as a whole due to Denji starts off as a demon slayer in order to pay his father's bulging debts and after being rescued by the certain girl, he ended up getting
  • Downer Beginning: The story starts off with Denji's father committing suicide due to the huge debt that he had from the Yakuza and Denji tries to work as a demon hunter to pay off said debt only to be revealed that said Yakuza head made a pact with a demon and chopping Denji into pieces and throws his body into the trash bin.
  • Fusion Dance: After Denji's body is chopped off by the Yakuza, Pochita ended up fusing himself with Denji in order to give him a second chance to live which resulted on Denji becoming a humanoid chainsaw like monster.
  • Horned Humanoid: Power is this. Makes sense as she is a devil who ended up becoming a humanoid demon.
  • Kindhearted Cat Lover: Despite her hatred with humans, Power has a soft side with cats and the reason why she become a demon slayer in the first place is because of the demon who took her pet cat away from her.
  • Mon: Pochita looks like an adorable chainsaw-like puppy who is the only demon who is truly loyal to Denji and fuses himself in order to give Denji a second chance to live.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Jan 3rd 2019 at 3:16:32 AM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5356: Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:09:06 AM

[up][up] @brb1006

Since 2010, Bell has become the official mascot for the franchise, <- comma appearing in commercials and making special appearances at events across the globe.

This is a single sentence improperly split into two sentences. "Appearing in commercials and making special appearances at events across the globe." is a sentence fragment.

In "The Treasure of Calico Village". <- period After hearing that Aidan got lost in a forest, Bell is seen crying after she finds him unharmed. She also breaks down when she tells the entire village that decided to leave the competition.

When Stella learns that her clothing line won't be in the competition, <- comma she tries her hardest not to show signs of sadness and disappointment.

This is another improperly split sentence. This time the first sentence is the sentence fragment.

Please read each sentence you write and make sure it makes sense on its own.

"Appearing in commercials and making special appearances at events across the globe." and "When Stella learns that her clothing line won't be in the competition." don't make any sense by themselves.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:13:06 AM

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5357: Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:48:35 AM

[up][up] @Elfen Lied Fan 90

Denji's main goal is wanting to fondle a woman's breasts. However, he willingly tries to help others in need. <- period such as At one point, he won't try to hurt a child and the Devil due to their strong relationship reminding him of his relationship with Pochita. Unfortunately, said relationship is just a facade because said demon is manipulating the girl.

When you say "the devil", are you talking about the Christian Devil (AKA Satan, Lucifer etc.)? If so, it's capitalized. If it's just one of many devils, then it's "a devil".

Power is a demon humanoid girl who also has a charming devil-like attitude and has a soft spot for cats.

This is considered to be one of the most darkest manga in Jump's history due to the brutal and bloody first chapter, <- comma with its seemingly out of place violence. <- period The Downer Beginning of the series starts with Denji's father committing suicide due to the huge debt that he has to pay and Denji ending up getting betrayed by the Yakuza who gave Denji said debt to begin with by chopping off all of his body parts.

Much like its predecessor <- no comma Kimetsu no Yaiba and Jujutsu Kaisen, this is the premise of the manga as a whole. <- period due to Denji starts off as a demon slayer in order to pay his father's bulging debts and after being rescued by the certain girl, he ends up getting

Getting what?

The story starts off with Denji's father committing suicide due to the huge debt that he had from the Yakuza. <- period and Denji tries to work as a demon hunter to pay off said debt, <- comma only for it to be revealed that said Yakuza head made a pact with a demon. <- period He chops Denji into pieces and throws his body into the trash bin.

After Denji's body is chopped up by the Yakuza, Pochita ended up fusing himself with Denji in order to give him a second chance to live, <- comma which results in Denji becoming a humanoid chainsaw-like monster.

Power is this. Makes sense, <- comma as she is a devil who ends up becoming a humanoid demon.

Despite her hatred of humans, Power has a soft side with cats. <- period and The reason why she become a demon slayer in the first place is because of the demon who took her pet cat away from her.

Pochita looks like an adorable chainsaw-like puppy. <- period She is the only demon who is truly loyal to Denji, <- comma and fuses herself to Denji in order to give him a second chance to live.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:49:58 AM

ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#5358: Jan 2nd 2019 at 3:51:34 AM

whoops I mean "getting worked on the demon slaying agency" my bad for rushing things up.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#5359: Jan 2nd 2019 at 11:47:58 PM

Another example to proofread:

  • Cruel and Unusual Death: Denji was killed by the Yakuza who betrayed him by getting his body parts chopped to pieces and thrown into trashbin.
  • Deal with the Devil: Some people are able to make some deal with other demons in order to gain more power. One of the particular examples are Denji making a blood pact with Pochita to the point that he ended up getting a second chance to live thanks to this and another example is the Yakuza who made a blood pact with a demon that turned him into a hideous like creature.
  • Starter Villain: Denji's boss, the loan shark Yakuza who made the pact with a demon, is the first villain that Denji faced before joining the Demon Slayer Organization
  • Yakuza: Denji's former boss is a Yakuza who gave Denji an enormous debt which resulted on Denji becoming a demon slayer

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Jan 3rd 2019 at 2:52:03 AM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5360: Jan 3rd 2019 at 2:41:35 AM

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Denji was killed by the Yakuza, <- comma who betrayed him by chopping his body into pieces and throwing them into a trashbin.

I changed this as per your earlier example about the Yakuza head doing the chopping.

Some people are able to make deals with other demons in order to gain more power. Two examples are Denji making a blood pact with Pochita to get a second chance to live thanks to this and another example is the Yakuza who made a blood pact with a demon that turned him into a hideous like creature.

Denji's boss, the loan shark Yakuza who made a pact with a demon, is the first villain that Denji faces before joining the Demon Slayer Organization. <- period

Denji's former boss is a Yakuza who gave Denji an enormous debt, <- comma which resulted in Denji becoming a demon slayer. <- period

Edited by Arivne on Jan 3rd 2019 at 2:43:21 AM

Cinco_005 Since: Dec, 2018
#5361: Jan 3rd 2019 at 10:59:40 PM

  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Is Uno (or more known as Agent Djinn) a Tragic Villain who feel betrayed because all chief pillars thinking he was purerly Evil All Along ? or selfish and arrogant man who demand being respect by the chief and thirst over being Chronic Hero Syndrome due to his Narcissist-side ?
      • His Student-Mentor relationship to Rizwan. Did his expectation to made Rizwan as part of Numeros because he indeed care with him and made him into his successor ? or he merely use Rizwan to shut down M.A.T.A agency high security system ?
    • Even Cinco (who more known as Jenny) also has this too. Did she recruited due to being heavily manipulated by Uno and he need her due being TEKNO agents ? A plain delusional and traitorous Psychopathic Womanchild who admire him so much which lead her to willingly work under him ?

  • Memetic Psychopath: Due being Base-Breaking Character cases on him, Sasuke often painted as purely evil, ungrateful and toxic character in Naruto, who do his crime for fun instead of see him as Tragic Hero / Tragic Villain, who traumatized by uchiha massacres. Most of fans are forgetting there are three character who responsible to messing his mind by manipulating and Mind Rape him, which resulting he become a mentally unstable dangerous criminal ninja.

  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Most of Agent Ali fans like the series Big Bad evil agency organization, Numeros , which leading they introduction of the minor member like Cuatro, Seis, Siete and Ocho in season 2. However, fans feel they need to know how this agency is founded by Uno and the real name of each member of Numeros. So far, only Uno, Cuatro, and Nueve who has the background and reason why they become Numeros agent. Aside this, their background, real name and their motive never revealed. As the result, Numeros still remains surround by mystery until the end of season 2.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5362: Jan 4th 2019 at 2:12:07 AM

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Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.

Is Uno (better known as Agent Djinn) a Tragic Villain who feels betrayed because all of the chief pillars think he was purely Evil All Along, <- comma or a selfish and arrogant man who demands being respect from the chief and thirst over suffers from Chronic Hero Syndrome due to his narcissist side? <- no space

^ There's no space between a word and a punctuation mark following it.

His student-mentor relationship to Rizwan. Did he expect to make Rizwan a part of Numeros because he indeed cared about him and made him into his successor, <- comma or did he merely use Rizwan to shut down the M.A.T.A agency high security system? <- no space

The second example above violates Example Indentation in Trope Lists. You can't have a single entry at the second level of indentation or below. It should look like this:

Alternative Character Interpretation

  • Uno
    • Is he (better known as Agent Djinn) a Tragic Villain who feels betrayed because all of the chief pillars think he was purely Evil All Along, <- comma or a selfish and arrogant man who demands being respect from the chief and thirst over suffers from Chronic Hero Syndrome due to his narcissist side? <- no space
    • His student-mentor relationship to Rizwan. Did he expect to make Rizwan a part of Numeros because he indeed cared about him and made him into his successor, <- comma or did he merely use Rizwan to shut down the M.A.T.A agency high security system? <- no space


Even Cinco (better known as Jenny) also has this too. Was she recruited due to being heavily manipulated by Uno and his needing her due to their being TEKNO agents? <- no space A plain delusional and traitorous Psychopathic Womanchild whose admiration of him so much which leads her to willingly work under him? <- no space

Due to being a Base-Breaking Character cases on him, Sasuke is often painted as being purely evil, ungrateful and a toxic character in Naruto, who commits crimes for fun instead of being seen him as a Tragic Hero/Tragic Villain <- no comma who was traumatized by the Uchiha massacres. Most of fans forget there are three characters who are responsible for messing up his mind by manipulating and [[MindRape mind raping]] him, which resulted in him becoming a mentally unstable dangerous criminal ninja.

Most of Agent Ali fans like the series's Big Bad evil agency organization, Numeros, <- no space because of the introduction of its minor members like Cuatro, Seis, Siete and Ocho in season 2. However, fans want to know how this agency was founded by Uno and the real names of each member of Numeros. So far, only Uno, Cuatro, and Nueve have been given backgrounds and reasons why they become Numeros agents. Aside from them, the other agents' backgrounds, real names and motives have never revealed. As a result, Numeros still remains surrounded by mystery at the end of season 2.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 4th 2019 at 2:15:59 AM

RubenFerro Since: Sep, 2018
#5363: Jan 4th 2019 at 6:08:27 AM

Game: Tales of the Abyss

Cute, but Cacophonic: The entire cheagle race, which Miue belongs to, are small, plush like creatures with usually high-pitched voices. Something that annoys the hell out of Luke, which he complains about almost every time Miue opens his mouth.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5364: Jan 5th 2019 at 1:35:56 AM

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The entire cheagle race, which Miue belongs to, are small, plush-like creatures with (usually) high-pitched voices. This is something that annoys the hell out of Luke, which he complains about almost every time Miue opens his mouth.

Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#5365: Jan 5th 2019 at 1:41:06 PM

Beast Wars Heartwarming

Crosses a bit into Tear Jerker given the circumstances. But In the episode Proving Grounds, Predacon turned Maximal ally, Blackarachnia, never sounded more hurt in the entire series then when she thought Silverbolt didn't trust her.

Context: Getting chased the whole episode by a psychotic super clone of Dinobot, and earlier thinking she was going to be forced re-programmed, provoked less of a emotional response from her then thinking her boyfriend didn't trust her. They Really Do Love Each Other and props to her Voice Actress Venus Terzo for selling the line.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jan 5th 2019 at 11:59:08 AM

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#5366: Jan 5th 2019 at 3:52:13 PM

Well, I need help to the grammar here.

  • Myriad Colors Phantom World: Exclusive from the last episodes of the anime, Enigma is an artificial phantom created using human and phantom DNA. Escaping from her abusive creators, Enigma starts to hunt the students of the Hosea high school in order to steal their special abilities by draining their energy. Seemingly defeated for the protagonists, Enigma takes the body and identity of Haruhiko Ichijou's mother and goes to live with him, successfully faking a motherly personality that bonds with him. After Haruhiko's friends manage to realize her identity, Enigma is able to beat them and steal Haruhiko's summoning powers, intending to use them to control all phantoms to take revenge on humanity. As she is later defeated for the Team E, Enigma is impressed at the human potential and admits that she enjoyed her time with Haruhiko, to which he agrees before she dies.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jan 5th 2019 at 7:18:25 AM

Watch me destroying my country
RubenFerro Since: Sep, 2018
#5367: Jan 5th 2019 at 11:36:28 PM

Game: Skies of Arcadia

Standard Establishing Spaceship Shot: The game may not have actual spaceships, however, its flying ships function much the same way. In a homage to Star Wars, the game begins with one of the Imperial battleships slowly entering from the top side of the screen chasing a much smaller ship.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5368: Jan 6th 2019 at 1:47:30 AM

[up][up] @Kazuya Prota:

Well, I need help with my grammar here.

Appearing exclusively in the last episodes of the anime, Enigma is an artificial phantom created using human and phantom DNA. Escaping from her abusive creators, Enigma starts to hunt the students of the Hosea high school in order to steal their special abilities by draining their energy. Seemingly defeated by the protagonists, Enigma takes the body and identity of Haruhiko Ichijou's mother and goes to live with him, successfully faking a motherly personality that bonds with him. After Haruhiko's friends manage to realize her identity, Enigma is able to beat them and steal Haruhiko's summoning powers, intending to use them to control all phantoms to take revenge on humanity. When she is later defeated by the Team E, Enigma is impressed by the human potential and admits that she enjoyed her time with Haruhiko, to which he agrees before she dies.

Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5369: Jan 6th 2019 at 1:49:35 AM

[up][up] @Ruben Ferro

The game may not have actual spaceships, but its flying ships function much the same way. In a homage to Star Wars, the game begins with one of the Imperial battleships slowly entering from the top side of the screen while chasing a much smaller ship.

BlueRed Since: Dec, 2018
#5370: Jan 6th 2019 at 5:30:55 AM

Hikawa Tatsunagi

  • Dark and Troubled Past: He is one of the victims of child abuse incident.
  • Photographic Memory: Hikawa is stated to have it. According to Shun he acquired it after the death of his parents, so as to not forget his memories of them. Whether or not it is meant to be a case of eidetic memory is unknown since Hikawa denies it when Miyu brings up that topic, simply saying he just has a better memory than most people.
  • Smarter Than You Look: Despite looking like and having the reputation of a delinquent, his grades are excellent according to Shin.

Edited by BlueRed on Jan 6th 2019 at 10:38:08 AM

I am a female and I was born on April 2nd 1998
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5371: Jan 7th 2019 at 4:03:19 AM

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He is one of a victim of child abuse incident.

According to Shun he acquired it after the death of his parents, so as to not forget his memories of them. Whether or not it is meant to be a case of eidetic memory is unknown, <- comma since Hikawa denies it when Miyu brings it up that topic, simply saying he just has a better memory than most people.

Despite looking like and having the reputation of a delinquent, his grades are excellent, <- comma according to Shin.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 8th 2019 at 2:36:51 AM

BlueRed Since: Dec, 2018
#5372: Jan 8th 2019 at 4:34:20 AM

Nanami Nano

  • Action Girl: She is a badass swords woman.
  • Lady of War: Nanami always remains calm and collected, when she is using the Magnetic Karma.
  • Nice Girl: Nanami is kind, selfless, caring, and motherly.
  • Proper Lady: When she is not scolding Lux for being lazy, her behavior is very proper, and elegant.
  • Silk Hiding Steel: Nanami is very gentle and polite, but when she fights her personality becomes very aggressive, and she is not afraid to murder her targets.
  • Tsundere: Nanami is a type B tsundere to Lux. While she normally cares about his well being, but often rebukes him for being lazy.
  • Younger than She Looks: She is sixteen, but the way she looks and acts, makes her look like a matured woman in twenties.

I am a female and I was born on April 2nd 1998
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
#5373: Jan 9th 2019 at 3:29:38 AM

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She is a Bad Ass swordswoman.

Nanami always remains calm and collected <- no comma when she is using the Magnetic Karma.

When she is not scolding Lux for being lazy, her behavior is very proper <- no comma and elegant.

Nanami is very gentle and polite, but when she fights, <- comma her personality becomes very aggressive <- no comma and she is not afraid to murder her targets.

Nanami is a type B Tsundere to Lux. While She normally cares about his well-being, but often rebukes him for being lazy.

She is sixteen, but the way she looks and acts <- no comma makes her appear to be a mature woman in her twenties.

Blue Red: You might want to look up the rules for using commas on The Other Wiki.

Edited by Arivne on Jan 10th 2019 at 3:31:37 AM

AmazingCartoonHero Since: Jan, 2019
#5374: Jan 11th 2019 at 12:45:06 PM

Characters / Moral Orel Coach Stopframe

  • Even Evil Has Standards: Coach Stopframe had was told by Clay that his son Orel come between him and the bear when he shot Orel leg. But when Orel told him the truth that Clay shot his leg while drunk and blame the bear he was disgusted. You can hear the angry and disgust in his voice when he told Orel that he come between him and the bears as one of the lies Clay made up.

Characters / Para Norman Mitch Downe

  • Everyone Has Standards: Disapprove of his brother Neil friendship with Norman, but still help search for him with his sister Courtney when Norman become missing.
  • Nice Guy: He is not only loving and protective of his younger brother but he is not the typical Jerk Jock. He actually is very friendly and never mean. Playing With as he disprove of his brothers friendship with Norman and advise him not to hang out with Norman because of his reputation. However he was never mean to Norman directly, went to search for him when he was missing, become a believer of his gift to see ghosts, finally stands up to the townsfolk when they want to hurt Norman.

Young Justice - Other Characters Princess Tara Markov

  • Related in the Adaptation: In DC canon Tara Markov was a bastard child and half sister to Brion Markov and Prince Gregor Markov. Here she there full sister and a member of there royal family.

Edited by AmazingCartoonHero on Jan 11th 2019 at 1:11:34 AM

RubenFerro Since: Sep, 2018
#5375: Jan 11th 2019 at 11:49:38 PM

Game: Agarest: Generations of War

  • Difficulty Spike: In the middle of the third generation (chapter), you get to fight Midas, which proved to be that one boss for many. However, it also starts off a tendency of ridiculously powerful bosses. Up until that point, bosses weren't such a big deal, after Midas, however, they start to regenerate truly large chunks of their HP and start using one-hitting AOE attacks that cover half of the battlefield. Not to mention, the game starts to routinely throw 2-3 bosses at you.


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