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• Free Love Future: Inverted. Nearly everyone in the universe seeks a monogamous marriage. For the Aves, their very biology prevents them from falling in love with anyone other then their first love because when they lose their virginity, their bodies produce a chemical that bonds them permanently to their first mate. For Humans and Humanimals monogamy is encouraged because of the danger of radiation - mutated STDs that are resistant to all antibiotics.
• A Man Is Not A Virgin: Averted. Ichabod is in no rush to lose his virginity. Justified because at the story's start he's only 13 years old.
• Our Dragons Are Different: Many different varieties of Dragon Humanimal populate the universe. Belladonna Starchild is a typical Eastern Dragon, and Tiamat is a Hydra. (Despite being a Multiple Head Case she is considered quite a sex symbol.)
• Yiff: Mocked. Humanimals seem to be aware of Furry Fandom, and really hate furries species stereotypes (e.g., Rabbit People absolutely despise the stereotype they enjoy being eaten) And Humanimals in general don't like the Furrys' depiction of animal sex. As Beauty the Snake Girl put it, "We do not YIFF! We make love". Mentioning Yiff around a Humanimal (Especially a Fox Humanimal) is a good way to get the stuffing beat out of you.

edited 11th Dec '11 4:57:57 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

Thank you! i...I just don't know if or when I'll ever get my ability to edit back

edited 11th Dec '11 6:25:02 PM by Rockhopper

OK...See if I can get this right.

Everything's Better With Penguins: Hopper the rockhopper penguin is a figure of legend in Humanimal history, one of the first Humanimals ever created. She's also a Killer Rabbit.

Could you add these along with the other four tropes to the Space Beasts page? Because I can't do it myself I really need some help

OK, done.

Some practice...In case the Mundane Luxury page does not have a 'Playing With' yet I thought of some entries for it

Basic Trope: A mundane kindness or convenience is an extraordinary luxury for some downtrodden character.

Straight: Bob is so poor that eating regularly is a luxury for him

Exaggerated: Bob lives in such a Crapsack World that breathing oxygen is a luxury for him.

Downplayed: Bob gets a hamburger, something he doesn't get to enjoy much since his girlfriend put him on a diet.

Justified: Bob lives in a poor undeveloped country

Inverted: Bob is so spoiled that normal living standards feel like poverty to him.

Parodied: Bob receives a packet of ketchup and sings a love song to it while tears of joy stream down his face.

The Dreaded: Herbalist Angela from Inheritance Cycle is hinted to be one. She is allowed to enter Farthen Dûr without getting her mind probed, even if everyone else, including Eragon, has to go through this whole process. The Twins are clearly afraid of her and she causes the high priest of Helgrind to scream in terror by only whispering her real name to his ear. The werecats don’t want to associated with her either.

edited 18th Dec '11 5:02:26 AM by Ciabella

Herbalist Angela from Inheritance Cycle is hinted to be one. She is allowed to enter Farthen Dûr without getting her mind probed, even if though everyone else, including Eragon, has to go through this that whole process. The Twins are clearly afraid of her, and she causes the high priest of Helgrind to scream in terror by only whispering her real name to his ear. The werecats don’t want to associated with her, either.

@Rockhopper: The sentances are all grammatically OK. However you forgot to add a period at the end of the "Straight" and "Justified" examples. Also it's "Played Straight", not "Straight".

edited 18th Dec '11 9:33:06 AM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

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• Knight Templar Parent: Amidala from Star Wars’ Fan Fic By the Grace of Lady Vader is this for both Luke and Leia. She will do anything, anything to get her family back and keep them safe. To the point of imprisoning one of her own children. Fact that she seems to be a bit delusional and has problems accepting idea of said child to be in love with someone she doesn’t approve of doesn’t help at all. Anakin also shows the same traits but his methods are much different.
• There Are No Therapists: May be invoked by Capital to make them broken beyond repair, thus unable to fight back. Subverted in District 13. All refugees are given psychological help and local specialists do everything they can to get Peeta back to his old self after a Mind Rape. Before final attack on Capital soldiers are checked for possible psychological problems ( Johanna gets send to the mental facility). Katniss also goes through a therapy after her sister’s death.
• Magnetic Medium: In Avatar The Last Airbender fanfiction Embers, people who were attacked by spirit or have to deal with supernatural phenomena (shamans, benders, Dai Lee) on regular basis, tend to attract spirits even more. This often leads them to become Doom Magnets as well. This in turn means that lives of Aang (main medium between humans and spirits), his friends (mostly strong benders and victims of Avatar’s Weirdness Magnet zone) and Zuko (strong bender and member of family with massive bad karma) have tendency to get complicated very easily.
• There Are No Therapists: Played with in Freakangels comics. Sirkka is local eqivalent of pychologist and helps abuse victims and people mind rapped by Mark. Her own love life on the other hand is a total mess. Other Freakangels are not much better with the group consisting of The Ophelia, Ineffectual Loner, Knight Templar, guy driven crazy by his own guilt, God Am I wannabe and a few other dysfunctional personality types. Some hide it better than other. At the end they all get a quick therapy from Arkady of all people and Luke is fixed on his own request. Even Mark seems to be much more sane. It is implied that their problems didn’t magically disappear, but they will eventually get over their issues with some love and hard work. Freakangels are True Companions after all.

edited 30th Dec '11 4:24:31 PM by Ciabella

• Knight Templar Parent: Amidala from the Star Wars Fan Fic, By the Grace of Lady Vader is this for both Luke and Leia. She will do anything to get her family back and keep them safe, to the point of imprisoning one of her own children. The fact that she seems to be a bit delusional and has problems accepting the idea that said child might be in love with someone she doesn’t approve of, doesn’t help at all. Anakin also shows the same traits but his methods are much different.
• There Are No Therapists: May be invoked by Capital to make them broken beyond repair, thus unable to fight back. Subverted in District 13: all refugees are given psychological help and local specialists do everything they can to get Peeta back to his old self after a Mind Rape. Before the final attack on Capital, soldiers are checked for possible psychological problems ( Johanna gets sent to a mental facility). Katniss also goes through a therapy after her sister’s death.
• Magnetic Medium: In the Avatar The Last Airbender fanfiction Embers, people who have been attacked by spirits or have to deal with supernatural phenomena (shamans, benders, Dai Lee) on a regular basis , tend to attract spirits even more. This often leads them to become Doom Magnets as well. This in turn means that the lives of Aang (the main medium between humans and spirits), his friends (mostly strong benders and victims of the Avatar’s Weirdness Magnet zone), and Zuko (a strong bender and member of a family with massive bad karma) have a tendency to get complicated very easily.
• There Are No Therapists: Played with in Freakangels comics. Sirkka is the local eqivalent of a pychologist, and helps abuse victims and people mind raped by Mark. Her own love life, on the other hand, is a total mess. Other Freakangels are not much better, with the group consisting of The Ophelia, an Ineffectual Loner, a Knight Templar, a guy driven crazy by his own guilt, a God Am I wannabe, and a few other dysfunctional personality types. Some hide it better than others. At the end, they all get a quick therapy from Arkady of all people, and Luke is fixed on his own request. Even Mark seems to be much more sane. It is implied that their problems didn’t magically disappear, but they will eventually get over their issues with some love and hard work. Freakangels are True Companions after all.

General comments:

• Watch those articles! (a, the, etc.) and commas.
• The first sentence of the second item (There Are No Therapists: May be invoked...) is problematic.
  • "to make them broken beyond repair" is rather awkward. Who or what is "them"? If them is the McGuffin, you could say, "to break the McGuffin beyond repair"; if them is Alice and Bob, you could say, "to break Alice and Bob".
  • "May be invoked"? The reader is left wondering if you don't even know if it is invoked or not.

edited 30th Dec '11 5:44:24 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

Thanks for helping me with these edits. I know I have problems with articles. It is one of the reasons I put most of my edits here first. The part about The Hunger Games was supposed to be added to already existing sentance, with named subject. It should look this:

• There Are No Therapists: The districts are too poor for something like a therapist, leaving the traumatized victors to relive their nightmares every year as they're forced to participate in the games. Invoked by Capital to make them broken beyond repair, thus unable to fight back. Subverted in District 13: all refugees are given psychological help and local specialists do everything they can to get Peeta back to his old self after a Mind Rape. Before the final attack on Capital, soldiers are checked for possible psychological problems (Johanna gets sent to a mental facility). Katniss also goes through therapy after her sister’s death.

edited 31st Dec '11 7:03:36 AM by Ciabella

^looks good. I think the only change I'd make would be ", and thus unable to fight back".

Glad to be of assistance.

I have this YKTTW I have been working for a while. I have used the spell cheker several times But I am a bit afraid that it might be still badly written.

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I would appreciate if someone told me if it fit's this wiki standards thanks

Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love.

I'd tweak it a little more for readability. Watch tense, commas, and spacing. Also you can be more consise by eliminating redundancy.

My suggestion:

People in Real Life are unique, irreplaceable, with their own pasts specific background and personality. That's the reason there's only one version of each person, no matter how much imitators might try.

Not so much in fiction. Some characters are more better known as symbols than as people. Consequentially, as long as you keep the basic elements of a character (their essence) you can have infinite variations of the same character. Without those elements, you would have a completely different character rather than a new version.

Every Any character can have micro undergo some variations (episode to episode) that's Depending on the Writer. But not every character can have major reinterpretations and remain the same character.

For example, take Batman. He has numerous different interpretations that are very different from each other. Some are campy, some are realistic but gritty, some are darker, cartoony, etc. But they all share the basic elements of a man named Bruce Wayne that who dons a bat costume and fights crime. If we saw another character named Batman but who stayed at home and argued eloquently on the Internet, we'd have a totally different character, despite the name.

On the other hand, Now a character like Jack Sparrow from Pirates Of The Caribbean isn't as interpretative. The reason is that you identify him as a specific person. You can't just have take any drunk pirate and call him "Jack Sparrow". Whoever that tried to Anyone who tries to emulate or parody him , would need to keep Johny Depp's mold intact. Mainly This character's specific personal appearance, clothes, mannerisms, and way of talking manner of speech would need to be kept exactly the same (or exaggerated in case of parody . But never changed). Disney even admitted that without "Captain Jack Sparrow" the franchise would be "dead and buried".. Ergo he isn't an interpretative character. Even if hHis characterization may change slightly Depending on the Writer, but there isn't really any much room for variation.

May overlap with Era-Specific Personality. Iconic Characters are the ones most likely to fall into this.

Not to be confused with Alternative Character Interpretation, Character Derailment, Depending on the Writer, or In Name Only.

edited 6th Jan '12 6:40:05 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

Thank you very much that should have taken you a lot of time. I will do that :). I am glad I didn't launch it as it is.

edited 6th Jan '12 6:38:46 PM by FallenLegend

Make your hearth shine through the darkest night; let it transform hate into kindness, evil into justice, and loneliness into love.

• Elopement: Mushishi has Hana and Zen, a pair of young lovers, who decided to escape, when Hana was to be forced into an Arranged Marriage. They probably would have succeeded, if Hana hadn’t hesitated and fallen from a bridge, changing in the process into a Mushi-possessed zombie.

edited 15th Jan '12 1:11:23 PM by Ciabella

• Elopement: Mushishi has Hana and Zen, a pair of young lovers, who decided to escape, when Hana was to be forced into an Arranged Marriage. They probably would have succeeded, ifHana hadn’t hesitated and fallen from a bridge, changing in the process into a Mushi-possessed zombie.
• Trauma Conga Line: Invoked by Capital for all victorius tributes. As children they are put through Deadly Games, where they are forced to kill, or be killed not only by other tributes but also by You most of the things on the arena. These experiences are enough to make most of them Shocked Shell Veterans, but Capital doesn’t leave kids alone and put them through even more suffering for the rest of their lives, making sure There Are No Therapist to help. They can’t even fight back with lives of their loved ones on line and are Forced to Watch as people they know participate in the same Deadly Games. Taken Up To Eleven when victors are faced with a possibility of coming back on the arena and having to kill people they’ve became friends with. At the end [[spoiler: only seven victorious tributes remain, because both Capital and rebels target them to make sure they can’t support opposite side.

Should become:

• Elopement: Mushishi has Hana and Zen, a pair of young lovers, who decided to escape when Hana was to be forced into an Arranged Marriage. They probably would have succeeded, if Hana hadn’t hesitated and fallen from a bridge, changing into a Mushi-possessed zombie in the process.
• Trauma Conga Line: Invoked by Capital for all victorius tributes. As children they are put through Deadly Games, where they are forced to kill, or be killed not only by other tributes but also by You most of the things on the arena. These experiences are enough to make most of them Shell Shocked veterans, but Capital doesn’t leave kids alone and puts them through even more suffering for the rest of their lives, making sure There Are No Therapists to help. They can’t even fight back with lives of their loved ones on line and are Forced to Watch as people they know participate in the same Deadly Games. Taken Up To Eleven when victors are faced with a possibility of coming back on the arena and having to kill people they’ve became friends with. At the end only seven victorious tributes remain, because both Capital and rebels target them to make sure they can’t support the opposite side.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Thanks for help.

• Fight Magnet/Weirdness Magnet: Usagi has an amazing tendency to attract all weird and dangerous things in the area he is passing through. He will accidentally bump into an ancient, mystic sword and get himself in the middle of an anti-shogun conspiracy or become a number one on local psychopath’s “to kill” list. No matter how much he tries to avoid it he will always end up in a fight. If not Youkai to kill, then a village to be saved from a Yakuza. Most of his friends are not ordinary people either. This happy bunch includes: bounty hunter, powerful daimyo, said daimyo’s Action Girl bodyguard, former head of ninja clan who would love to get rid of Usagi, Badass Grandpa Old Master, Classy Cat-Burglar and professional demon hunter.

edited 16th Jan '12 12:24:23 PM by Ciabella

[You need to include the name of the work.] Usagi has an amazing tendency to attract all the weird and dangerous things in the any area he is passing through. He will accidentally bump into an ancient, mystic sword and [<-Should this be "or"? "And" means that bumping into the sword is directly connected to the conspiracy.] get himself in the middle of an anti-shogun conspiracy or become a number one on a local psychopath’s “to kill” list. No matter how much he tries to avoid it, he will always ends up in a fight. If it's not Youkai he has to kill, then a village needs to be saved from a Yakuza. Most of his friends are not ordinary people, either. This happy bunch includes: a bounty hunter, a powerful daimyo, said daimyo’s Action Girl bodyguard, the former head of a ninja clan who would love to get rid of Usagi, a Badass Grandpa Old Master, a Classy Cat-Burglar, and a professional demon hunter.

edited 16th Jan '12 3:05:36 PM by Nocturna

Usagi Yojimbo. I wanted to add this example on a work's page, so I didn't introduce its name. It should be and instead of or, because these two events are connected.

edited 17th Jan '12 12:18:13 AM by Ciabella

Okay. I'd assumed that the example was going on the trope pages (my bad), which is why I said it needed the work name. I'm not at all familiar with the work, which is why I wasn't sure if the magic sword and the anti-shotgun conspiracy were actually connected—they're not the sort of thing that one automatically assumes occurs in a single sequence of events.

edited 17th Jan '12 9:10:35 AM by Nocturna

• The Time of Myths: Dark Reflections Trilogy mentions that before the suboceanic kingdoms and even ancient Egypt, there was a time when gods walked the Earth in their orginal forms. Then humans decided they prefer mute, stone statues to living denities and hunted them down. The Flowing Queen is actuallty one of these old gods, Sahment. There are hints Baba Yaga may be one herself too.
• Living Relic: Dark Reflections Trilogy has a few characters, who remembers the civilization of ancient Egypt, but most prominent example could be The Flowing Queen herself, who lived in the age, when gods walked the Earth. She was stated to be much older than any from of life in a sea, so this borders on a Time Abyss
• Time Abyss: The Flowing Queen from Dark Reflections Trilogy not only happends to be one of the old gods, who walked the Earth long before ancient Egypt, but also is stated to be older than any form of life in a sea.

edited 20th Jan '12 1:09:01 PM by Ciabella

Trying a new format.

• First Bullet:
  • Please add a comma between "kingdoms" and "and even"
  • "deities" does not have an "n" in it.
  • "actually" has only one "t".
• Second bullet:
  • "...a few characters, who remembers..." should be "...a few characters who remember the civilization..."
  • "...but most prominent example could be" should be "but the most prominent example is probably" or "but the most prominent example might be...". The "the" is required in this case because you're referring to something specific. "Could" is awkward here becasuse it has the connotation that X could have happened, but it didn't, while "might" is more neutral and "probably" is often used as a polite way of saying something definately is without getting into a fight with those who disagree.
  • "in the age, when gods walked" - comma should be omitted.
  • "a sea" is awkward. Use "the sea" or "at least one of the setting's seas", or "the X sea", if the specific sea in question is mentioned in the story.
  • Instead of the last sentence, you may want to say "See also Time Abyss, below." if the second and third bullet items are on the same page.
• Third Bullet:
  • There should be a "the" before Dark Relections Trilogy.
  • "happens" does not have a "d" in it.
  • "a sea" is awkward. Use "the sea" or "one of the setting's seas", or "the X sea", if the specific sea in question is mentioned in the story.

General comments:

• Watch those keyboard errors! Take your time and reread your post to catch spelling errors.
• Articles, commas, tense, and singular / plural are some of the most difficult things to get right in English.
• Don't give up! You're improving.

edited 20th Jan '12 4:03:20 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV