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Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#1: Sep 24th 2021 at 6:45:10 AM

Animated Adaptation according to its description is supposed to be for works that get adapted into an Animated Series but as the Animated Adaptation Wick Check revealed it is often used for Animated Films. Here are the quick results:

  • Animated Series: 29/57
  • Animated Film: 25/57
  • ZCE 1/57
  • Other/Unclear 2/57

What makes this even weirder is that its counterpart Live-Action Adaptation doesn't have this restriction. Personally, I would say that we should expand it to include both as I don't see any reason why Animated Films shouldn't be allowed.

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#2: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:30:57 AM

IDK what the issue was here, maybe those were seen as too common? Someone just didn't feel like listing Disney films? But I'd be fine with expansion.

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#3: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:35:37 AM

Indeed, these should be expanded.

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#6: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:48:42 AM

The following is copied from a TLP draft I did awhile ago:

  • I think it makes more sense for an adaptation in the Literature/ namespace to have a single adaptation trope that describes the format/medium it is in (Novelization), instead of a separate one for Novel adaptations, Novella adaptations, Novelette adaptations, and Short Story adaptations.
  • I think it makes more sense for an adaptation in the ComicBook/ namespace to have a single adaptation that describes the format/medium it is in (Comic-Book Adaptation), instead of a separate one for 3-D comic adaptations, Photo Comic adaptations, and Graphic Novel adaptations.
  • I think it makes more sense for an adaptation in the Theatre/ namespace to have a single adaptation trope that describes the format/medium it is in (Screen-to-Stage Adaptation), instead of separate tropes for musical adaptations and non-musical adaptations.

Now notice the last category that I mentioned, Screen-to-Stage Adaptation. The name is set up as a medium-to-medium trope, but the article itself includes any format for the original work, as long as the derivative work is in the Theatre/. That's an example of a common trend for some of the existing media adaptation tropes (the worst of which is are The Movie, Non-Serial Movie, Big Damn Movie, and The Film of the Series).


So, no. I don't think the concept is already covered in a reasonable manner. The goal here is to fix formatting (this is an example of the adaptation, not the original work) and to resolve the complications with the existing adaptation tropes by basing the medium adaptation trope on the namespace used for the adapted work.
I don't want Film.Clue to have two separate tropes describing the adaptation; Live-Action Adaptation and Movie Adaptaion. I especially don't want new tropes describing the format of the original work on the page for the adaptation such as Adapted From A Board Game. I'd rather it was just one trope to describe the change in media; Live Action Film Adaptation (or whatever the name ends up being).
Relevant to this thread, I'd want adaptations that are namespaces to Animation/, Anime/, and WesternAnimation/ to all be examples of Animated Adaptation unless we are ready to split the namespaces animated films from animated series, like we have for live-action films and live-action series.

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#8: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:02:16 AM

If we do decide to expand it the Animated Film folder examples will have to go since it would be misused under the new definition, maybe that could be its own trope something like Film To TV Adaptation.

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#9: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:09:31 AM

Wait, why would it be misuse?

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Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:10:46 AM

Because for example with Tangled: The Series it is adapting something that was already animated from film to tv.

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#11: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:11:38 AM

Oh. I swear there's gotta be a trope for that somewhere. If not it'd be easy to whip one up.

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#12: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:14:32 AM

The best I can see is Recycled: The Series but that is a Trivia trope, for some reason.

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#13: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:14:54 AM

That's not an adaptation, it's a Sequel in Another Medium though, right? (technically an interquel but u get d point)

Anyway, sure, let's expand to all forms of animation; admittedly I thought it was already the case and may have contributed to misuse.

Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 24th 2021 at 12:15:13 PM

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#14: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:14:59 AM

Huh, well, I'd say we move the misuse there anyway.

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#15: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:18:37 AM

Though Recycled: The Series is currently under Tropes Needing TRS for the exact reason that it is not Trivia, maybe I should do that next.

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#16: Sep 24th 2021 at 10:20:01 AM

[tup]Expand to include animated film.

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#17: Sep 24th 2021 at 11:58:56 AM

maybe that could be its own trope something like Film To TV Adaptation.
Gah! No! This is how we will end up with Movie Adaptation, as we create separate tropes for format adaptation and medium adaptation, or overly specific medium-to-medium changes.

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#19: Sep 24th 2021 at 1:19:53 PM

Expand. [tup]

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#20: Sep 24th 2021 at 1:20:31 PM

Pump it up.

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#21: Sep 24th 2021 at 1:24:35 PM

Expand. [tup] No reason to have that distinction in place since the Live-Action version of the trope doesn't have it and the Western Animation/ namespace also doesn't distinguish between shows and movies (although it honestly should, but that's for another time)

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#22: Sep 24th 2021 at 9:33:36 PM

[tup] for expanding it to include animated film adaptations

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#23: Sep 27th 2021 at 8:37:28 AM

Made a crowner in case we don't already have enough consensus.

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#24: Sep 28th 2021 at 12:41:35 AM

Attached it.

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#25: Sep 28th 2021 at 3:42:40 AM

I advertised the crowner on ATT.

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27th Sep '21 8:36:10 AM

Crown Description:

What should be done with Animated Adaptation? The trope is currently limited to animated series, but is often applied to animated films.

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